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ARDEN HILLS PLANNING COMMISSION – November 5, 2014 7 Commissioner Zimmerman wanted to see the City be sensitive to the amount of storm water runoff coming from this site given the recent fines the Met Council has assessed to cities in the metro area. Chair Larson still believed the trade off and improvement to the storm sewer system merited approval. The motion failed 3-3 (Bartel, Holewa and Zimmerman opposed). Commissioner Holewa moved and Commissioner Zimmerman seconded a motion to table Planning Case 14-028 a Site Plan Review and Variance at 1160 Grey Fox Road to allow the applicant to review the request further with staff. Commissioner Holewa requested comment from the City Engineer on the runoff and proposed infiltration basins. Commissioner Bartel also wanted to see a comparison on the storm water system both for the current system and proposed system. Commissioner Zimmerman wanted to ensure that the new storm water system would handle the additional runoff. He did not support any increase in impervious surface and recommended the applicant further investigate the use of pervious pavers or concrete. Chair Larson reiterated that the applicant had already received conditional approval from the Rice Creek Watershed District. He explained that the new retention pond and filtration basin would manage the water runoff differently than the current swale. The motion failed 3-3 (Chair Larson, Jones and Thompson opposed). Commissioner Bartel did not understand why the Commission did not fully support the request being tabled. Commissioner Thompson did not believe the matter had to be tabled as the Commission had enough information to recommend approval. City Planner Streff stated it would be possible for the Planning Case to proceed to the Council with a 3-3 split vote. He commented that the Commission could ask the applicant how they would like to proceed. Mr. Thompson was not in favor of tabling the request as this would delay the matter. He clarified that the proposed storm water improvements would be equal to or better than the current situation. He reported that he has received conditional approval from the Rice Creek Watershed District and the City Engineer has already reviewed the plans for the site. He questioned what the Commission would be gaining by tabling the request this evening. Commissioner Bartel understood the request was approved by Rice Creek Watershed District but he wanted further clarification on how the site would handle the runoff. He also wanted to understand if the proposed storm water changes would improve the site.