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ARDEN HILLS CITY COUNCIL— MARCH 26, 2001 DRAFT 7 the integrity of the design. He stated he thought that 10 or 30 percent could still look nice and be hard to distinguish from each other. He noted the difference in cost is considerable. Councilmember Grant asked if the 30 percent would include the parking structure too. Mr. Carlson responded that no it would be 30 percent of the principle structure. He stated that if they went around and looked at this class of office building,most have colored masonry or precast. He noted it is more related to cost. Mr. Doughty stated architectural precast is a material that has been used very successfully for the last 20 years. He noted he does not have any hesitation on its use. He added it is almost as high of quality as stone material. He stated he does not want to limit them. He stated the other concern on EFIS is the breathability of it and its intrinsic nature. He noted it is only a concern if it does not have good installation practices utilized. He added he does not think it is a Planning Commission issue,but an owner of the building issue. He stated they have a good contractor. He noted they have concerns too about EFIS. He added if it is down at grade and not detailed properly it could be a problem. He stated architectural precast on parking garages is pretty standard. Mr. Carlson stated they would shoot themselves in the foot to have a great building and an ugly duck parking deck. Mr. Shardlow stated along the Gateway Boulevard they think the best way to handle the edge is through berming and landscaping. He noted there might be some area for a decorative wall. Councilmember Grant asked about the percentage of EFIS on the slides provided. Mr. Doughty described the examples. Councilmember Rem stated she thinks the concern with the materials is not how it looks, but how it would age. Mr. Doughty stated that would be the owner's concern. Councilmember Rem stated this is their city and they would have to live it. Mr. Carlson responded there have been changes in the quality of the systems. Councilmember Larson stated when he thinks of a first class building,he does not think of stucco. He noted cost might be a factor. He added Roseville is getting a five-story building without any stucco. He stated Medtronic has none. Mr. Doughty stated he thinks it comes in with a lower office/showroom. He noted they would not put up an eight-story building with EFIS. Mr. Carlson stated if they have a single story building they would like to use 30 percent EFIS, but use 20 percent on a multi-story. Mr. Doughty stated they would add EFIS only on the upper floor. Mr. Shardlow stated synthetic stucco would be permitted on the upper floors.