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ARDEN HILLS SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION – JUNE 29, 2020 4 <br /> <br />Undersheriff Ramacher said he would check with the Sheriff to see if it could be shared with the <br />Council but it probably wouldn’t be shared with the public. <br /> <br />Mayor Grant suggested it be shared with the City Administrator and Councilmembers could read <br />it if they wished. <br /> <br />Mayor Grant asked if they could describe the types of force in their continuum and what can be <br />used to respond to specific types of resistance. <br /> <br />Commander Baebenroth responded they use a reasonable control options matrix with the <br />ultimate objective of every law enforcement encounter to avoid or minimize injury. The policy <br />relies on the Fourth Amendment ruling about objective reasonableness. They factor in the totality <br />of all the circumstances and the range of options that a deputy may have to use in the intense split- <br />second decisions. Any situation is constantly re-evaluated and they respond as the situation <br />changes. Some of the factors used to determine what is reasonable force are immediacy and <br />severity of the threat to the deputies and others, conduct of the individual as perceived by the <br />deputy at the time, age, size, strength, injuries, level of fatigue, number of deputies and subjects <br />on the scene, if the suspect is under the influence of drugs or alcohol, mental capacity, if weapons <br />are involved, if backup is available, and seriousness of the offense. <br /> <br />Mayor Grant wondered how large the force continuum chapter was in the manual. <br /> <br />Commander Baebenroth said there are 85 pages that he presents to deputies at their initial hire. <br /> <br />Councilmember Holden mentioned there is possible legislation regarding chokeholds and asked <br />how they would respond to it. <br /> <br />Undersheriff Ramacher said the wording he read earlier would be put into their policy very <br />soon, regardless of whether the legislature deals with it or not. <br /> <br />Mayor Grant asked if there were policies that permit officers to intervene to stop excessive use <br />of force and what would the repercussions be if an officer should do that. <br /> <br />Undersheriff Ramacher stated their policy says that any deputy present and observing another <br />deputy use force that is clearly beyond that which is objectively reasonable under the <br />circumstances shall, when in a position to do so, intercede and prevent the use of force. The <br />deputy who observes the use of force that exceeds the force permitted by law should report their <br />observations to their supervisor. It is the expectation that staff does that. He has confidence that <br />would happen in the Ramsey County Sheriff’s Office. <br /> <br />Councilmember Holmes asked if they could give an example of when a sheriff’s deputy did <br />intervene in a situation where one officer was exceeding the force and another officer de-escalated <br />that. <br /> <br />Undersheriff Ramacher replied that over the years he could give many examples where a deputy <br />was becoming agitated and other deputies have stepped in. The expectation is that when deputies
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