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May 19 Virtual Open House: Questions and Comments Received 2 <br />Question: Can bikers and walkers cross Snelling Avenue at Hamline Avenue? Will any upgrades be made at <br />this location? <br />Answer: Bicyclists and pedestrians can legally cross at the Hamline Ave. intersection. We are proposing to close <br />that in 2022 with the cable median barrier project, but that's one of the things we wanted to hear feedback on <br />tonight. We don't believe that there are a lot of people crossing here, but we are asking for feedback because <br />we could consider leaving openings in the median barrier for bicyclists and pedestrians. <br />At this time, we have not proposed any pedestrian or bicyclist upgrades at the Hamline Ave. and Snelling Ave. <br />crossing. <br />Question: Have you considered extending the turn lane on southbound Snelling Avenue at Hamline Avenue? <br />Is there anything that could address the wait time? <br />Answer: An extended turn lane may address rear-end crashes going southbound on Snelling Ave, but it would <br />not address the higher-risk crashes that are more likely to lead to a fatal or serious injury. These are crashes <br />where drivers turning left choose too small of a gap to cross Snelling Ave. and are hit at a high speed, right-angle <br />by northbound vehicles. <br />Question: Can you time restrict the left turn lane from southbound Snelling Avenue to Hamline Avenue? What <br />about adding a ‘no left turn’ sign during afternoon rush hour? What about adding controlled arms like the <br />HOV lanes on I-394? <br />Answer: Signs are only effective if drivers obey them, or if high and continuous police enforcement occurs, <br />which typically doesn’t occur because of lack of staff. For example: There is a “no U-turn” sign at Glenhill Rd., <br />but vehicles still are making this movement even with no southbound left turn lane. With low compliance of the <br />“no U-turn” sign it’s likely a “No Left Turn” sign at certain times of the day would also have a low <br />compliance. Also, at higher speeds with higher volumes on Snelling Ave., if a vehicle gets into or even slows to <br />get into the left turn lane and then sees they can’t turn, they have to merge back onto southbound Snelling Ave., <br />where vehicles travel much faster than the speed limit, which presents a safety risk. <br />Controlled arm gates would present the same issue of vehicles having to merge back onto southbound Snelling <br />Ave. They also have on-going maintenance needs. <br />Question: How is a controlled intersection any safer than the intersection of Snelling Avenue and Hamline <br />Avenue? We still have an increase in traffic at Lydia Ave. and Co. Rd. C2, and Snelling Ave. intersections in <br />vehicles and pedestrians. If you close one with less accidents, then why not 2 intersections with more <br />documented accidents? <br />Answer: It is true that there are more crashes at Snelling and Lydia than at Snelling and Hamline. However, we <br />typically analyze safety through crash rates (number of crashes over the number of vehicles using an <br />intersection), not just raw numbers of crashes so that we compare the safety of different intersections. Snelling <br />and Lydia has a higher number of crashes, but lower crash rate index than Snelling Avenue and Hamline Avenue, <br />because it is used by more vehicles. <br />
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