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. COUNCILMAN HANSON: I'd like to have the engineer refresh my memory as to why we decided to extend that connecting road south from Nursery Hill. MR. CHRISTOFFERSEN: Might I ask Mr. Miller to explain that because he was involved in all of the Planning Commission's work and I was not. I did not attend those meetings. Perhaps Mr. Miller could provide a better answer than I. MR. ORLYN MILLER, Wehrman, Chapman Associates, City Planners: There were basically three options expressed at the time of the first proposal- and maybe DOn might want to help me with this. (Showing diagrams) In terms of lqt layout, this is basically the same with some modification. The concern is Nursery Hill Lane extends to Hamline on the far left and it would create a cul-de- sac of approximately 1700 feet. The Ordinance limits the extent of the length of a cul-de-sac to 500 feet (inaudible) 18 lots are served, in which case it could be somewhat longer. In this case it's substantially more than 18 lots. I believe something of that nature is already served by Nursery Hill Lane. There was con- cern expressed by ourselves and by the Planning Commission that we search out a way to resolve the circulation problem (inaudible) that length of cUl-depsac. Three different basic options were open. One is to accept - by waiving that requirement at the time of planning - to accept a longer cul-de-sac. Another is to plainly deny any development in which the city gets in somewhat of a vulnerable position in that this area is (inaudible) landlocked by past decisions and we felt we should seek out some way to provide for development for the benefit of the developer as well as the city, and the third option was to seek some way to provide a loop system to Hamline or Amble Road, so we did look at a variety of ways. Obviously, as you can see on the left $ide of that, the existing homes and the spacing,is such that it would require taking of the developed lands, lots that are already developed. We had to seek out other ways, trying to determine where same of the openings might be. . There was, at one time, some sort of easement here that showed up on the plat. We did clarify that it wasn't as public as we thought at the time we did these studies. That there is some kind of access easement back here but not a platted street, but we did look at the possibility of extending over there - providing access to Amble Road at the end (inaudible) existing home con- struction, there is a home on this lot at this time and the narrowness of the area just made that somewhat infeasible. This configuration simply shows how the Amble property which gets landlocked in the process of creating a road (inaUdible) however, if we put it here ,we still had this landlocked property here that could not be subdivided efficiently to get access in that manner. 5