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ARDEN HILLS CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES NOVEMBER 26, 2001 13 . well. He added this is a large parcel. He stated if they dropped the density they could shorten the road and might reduce the costs. He noted he was not prepared to move on this concept plan. He added he would be open to some type of revision. He stated he shared Councilmember Aplikowski's concerns about the road. Mayor Probst stated he served on the Planning Commission prior to being on the Council. He noted it was his recollection that there were options for access. He added that for reasons not recalled the owners chose not to pursue them. He stated that in hindsight, the city should have taken action here and identified a paper street for access to these points. He noted there has been a fairly steadfast attempt to avoid flag lots. He added they have attempted to avoid private streets. He stated that in the instances private streets have been approved they have been for one or two properties only. He noted he had significant concerns about the five lots, their utilities, and the service of emergency vehicles. He added this neighborhood does have water problems. He stated the City has had to make a number of corrections. He noted that too much is trying to happen here. He added he would not support creating this number of properties on a private street. He stated that in addition to street corrections, there would also be two driveways. He noted those driveways would need to corne off the street and enforce the idea that it needs to be public. . Councilmember Rem stated her biggest concern was that as presented the maximum number of lots. She noted there is going to have to be a real street there. She added she really had misgivings about the street going onto Harnline Avenue. Councilmember Aplikowski stated there are already traffic problems there. She noted adding five homes would not increase the traffic significantly. She added the traffic was not a big issue here, but the size of the road was an issue. Councilmember Grant asked when the applicants could corne back with a revised plan. He questioned whether it would be better to table the matter and let them corne back. Mr. Parrish stated the zoning ordinance indicates that the applicant can corne back in six months. He noted he would suggest a new application. Mayor Probst stated if the plan changed substantially the applicants could corne in tomorrow with new fee. He asked about the applicant withdrawing the application. Mr. Parrish responded if they withdrew the application, anything new would be a new application. Councilmember Aplikowski asked the applicants why they wanted to do this. Mr. Goserud responded it is a large piece of property to maintain. He stated they were . looking for a smaller property in the future for retirement. He noted they would be selling the property. He added they feel it is a parcel that can be divided.