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ARDEN HILLS SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL WORKSESSION — DECEMBER 18, 2023 12 <br />Community Development Director Jagoe thought the unnamed grocery store was 48,000. <br />Mayor Grant wanted to leave enough flexibility to have grocery stores. He wasn't sure what the <br />square footage of a Costco would be, but the parking lot can take up quite a bit. <br />Councilmember Monson said the bigger trend from the retail person was to create a destination <br />in order to be successful. A place where people want to live, walk, eat, drink and shop. Greater <br />MSP highlighted a lot of things around a need for sustainability. They talked about having an <br />office and a small manufacturing footprint, but not build to suit. At a Planning Commission <br />meeting Mr. Lux said there is something like a million square feet of commercial space that is <br />empty in the Twin Cities metro area. She thought it would be a good idea to have Mr. Lux come <br />in to talk to the City Council about what he thinks would in demand for commercial space and the <br />anticipated forecast. She also thought they should agree on an economic jobs plan that they <br />recommend to the JDA. Because they have a developer, he can bring them things that they would <br />want rather than just work within the codes. She thought zoning was just one tool to determine <br />what goes in or to shape the city, and if they were really talking about jobs they should be doing <br />that in an EDA meeting. They need to be an active participant in shaping the jobs, from incentives <br />and programs. <br />Councilmember Holden believed a lot of that was in the original JDA agreement. <br />City Administrator Perrault said it was in the 2016 goals. They wanted 4,600 jobs that were <br />either well or high paying jobs. <br />Councilmember Holden said the developer was here to make money. If they have a 15 or 20 year <br />build out she didn't want the first person who offers to pay for everything to get a prime piece just <br />because they are willing to line the developer's pockets. She thought if they don't set <br />expectations they're going to get what they get. Giant warehouses create giant parking lots that <br />adds to run off and lower tax revenue. They have a master developer but they also have to take <br />control of their own city and set expectations to protect the City's future and our resident's <br />futures. <br />Mayor Grant stated that's why you zone properties, to get something that the community desires. <br />Mr. Lux builds apartment buildings, he can get someone else to build single family homes. Of <br />course, he will say he wants more acreage to build more apartments. He didn't fault Mr. Lux for <br />that, but he's not sure that was the City's vision. You can say let's be flexible but do you let the <br />developers build what they want or to zone property to get something that is important to the City. <br />Otherwise you'd just say the developer can build what they want where they want. He didn't <br />know if they necessarily have to have a big box, he thought they didn't get the jobs. They sliced <br />off 32 acres of jobs and they need to pay careful attention to what goes into the remaining 80 <br />acres. You describe what you want in zoning and then you tell the developer to bring in something <br />that matches. The developer's goals may not match up with what the City Council wants, at some <br />point they need to be the leaders, not the followers. <br />Councilmember Fabel said the Joint Development Authority adopted a term sheet with the <br />developer last month. One of the specific provisions is an interest of the JDA and the developer in <br />good paying jobs as part of the Rice Creek Commons project. It addresses exactly what the Mayor <br />is talking about. It indicates the commitment of the JDA to pursue that along with the other <br />