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<br />ARDEN HILLS CITY COUNCIL - SEPTEMBER 11,2000 <br /> <br />22 <br /> <br />supported flat face, six-inch high concrete curb and gutter in all areas except for those areas that <br />. will have rain gardens, or the rural section of Hamline A venue, <br /> <br />Councilmember Grant stated that he was not in favor of six-inch high curbs. He noted that along <br />Highway 96 four-inch curbs had been used and he felt that these looked much better than six- <br />inch high curbs, He felt that a taur-inch high curb was enough to channel the water and that six- <br />inch high gutters only provide tar a more city, like appearance, <br /> <br />Councilmember Grant stated that he has surmountable curbs in his neighborhood and he <br />acknowledged that the curb must be driven over to access his driveway, He suggested that edge <br />banding be used on North Hamline Avenue since water channeling was not a concern. He added <br />that, if the City was contident that rain gardens will be included, then edge banding could be <br />used on those portions ofthe roadway. However, he believed that the east end ofIngerson will <br />required some sort of curbing, <br /> <br />Mayor Probst asked if there were issues related to the use of four-inch curbs versus six-inch <br />curbs, Mr. Brown stated that it may be possible to loose some capacity to carry water with the <br />four-inch curbs. Although, he indicated that the lower curbs are easier to climb for bicycles, etc, <br /> <br />. <br /> <br />An audience member noted that his property was lower than the street and the water that runs on <br />the street in front of his home comes from his yard, It was his belief that the installation of curbs <br />and gutters will cause his backyard to flood. Mayor Probst stated that properly installed curbs <br />and gutters will not cause yards to flood, <br /> <br />Mr. Brown noted that during the reconstruction of the roadways, the roads could be lowered in <br />places where necessary to prevent the concerns of water draining back to the yards, <br /> <br />Mayor Probst suggested that the discussion be moved to the issue of reconstruction ofthe streets. <br />He acknowledged that there were some areas within this neighborhood where rain gardens may <br />work, however, there were a great deal of areas where they will not. Therefore, he advocated the <br />installation of curb and gutter. <br /> <br />Councilmember Rem stated that if the Council chooses to approve four,inch curbs and gutters, <br />they should make it clear that there may be exceptions in some areas, <br /> <br />Mayor Probst stated that he would not want different styles of curb and gutter to be used block- <br />by-block in the neighborhood, Therefore, he felt that the first decision that the Council must <br />make was the style of curb and gutter to be used. <br /> <br />. <br /> <br />Councilmember Larson noted that at this point the City Council was expected to provide <br />direction to the City Engineer and Staff regarding changes to the feasibility report, He stated that <br />the City Council should avoid getting into specific details, such as where certain types of curbs <br />should be used, He felt that this should be left up to the City Engineer and Staff to include in the <br />revised feasibility report, which the City Council and residents will review in order for a final <br />