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ARDEN HILLS CITY COUNCIL - NOVEMBER 10. 1997 14 . Councilmember Hicks asked about the life expectancy of an all brick exterior versus precast over 75 years including labor, paint, and scraping, Mr. Logelin stated he does not know how often it would have to be painted, Mr, Schraad stated there would also be some maintenance over 75 years with brick and the precast surface maintenance would probably cost $2,000 to $3,000 every seven to eight years. Councilmember Hicks stated the request is to leave the total two surfaces as tipup concrete without any brick but, if the Council does not approve, they would have to go back to the membership with this new proposal. Mr. Logelin stated they do not want this to be a polarizing issue between NHLC and the City of Arden Hills and want to continue the good working relationship they have had. Mr. Logelin stated he wanted to review the chronology due to comments that NHLC was less than honest. He stated they wanted to show there was no other motive, Councilmember Hicks stated it appears that ifthis is not approved, the applicant is forced to go back to the congregation for approval. Joe Rickenbach, NHLC, explained that they will have to go back to the Council of Elders which represent the full congregation, . Councilmember Hicks stated he believes this proposal is much more attractive than precast alone and he would support it. He stated they have a beautiful facility and he would not want this portion of precast concrete to be in a state of disarray over time, Councilmember Hicks stated the City would expect it to continue to represent the quality of facility they currently have. Councilmember Malone stated he believes the Church has made this a polarizing issue based on their memorandum. He explained that when he sees the comment that it will be brick and other materials to match, he believes it will be just that since there is no other precast materials on the building, Mr. Logelin stated he thought that would be the intention. Mr. Rickenbach stated he went to every meeting and every time there was the mention of brick it was also mentioned "and other matching materials." He stated if Staff had mentioned "all brick," he would have pointed out two walls were not all brick. Mr. Rickenbach noted the draft minutes of the second Planning Commission meeting talked about this and there were representatives of the Church there who said nothing, but why should they say anything since there are two precast walls there and it was to match. He stated he never saw a "red flag" or he would have said something. He stated he never heard anyone say "all brick." Councilmember Malone pointed out the overhead submitted also says "brick and other materials." He stated if this is the case, then this is not good enough either and the City will have . to inspect every minor point. He stated that when others come before the Council and say they will use certain materials, they can be trusted to do just that.