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<br />. <br /> <br />both of the storm sewers would be operating. In evidence of that, <br />if the 48 were not constructed, it would probably require a 60 <br />inch to be constructed over to Lexington Avenue on Grey Fox Road. <br />We have attempted to reduce the cost by using the existing 42 <br />inch. So the volumes of flows that are projected at Grey Fox <br />Road and Lexington have been taken into account. Those flows <br />(inaudible) . <br /> <br />COUNCILMAN JOHNSON: Can these ponding areas that we speak <br />of (inaudible) can they assist in controlling the flow into the <br />existing 42, such that we can control it at the source end and <br />not have to put a 48 in? <br /> <br />MR. CHRISTOFFERSEN: Are you speaking of the undeveloped <br />area south of the freeway? The design has taken into account <br />that all of the undeveloped areas will only produce a run-off <br />equivalent to what exists today. So as they develop, you can <br />expect - if they were developed without ponding - you could <br />expect larger amounts of flow to occur. Thus larger storm <br />sewer if there was not ponding there. <br /> <br />COUNCILMAN JOHNSON: What would be your option to this 36 <br />inch if Ramsey County said we're going ahead now and we're going <br />to widen the road, we have to have someplace to put the water. <br /> <br />MR. CHRISTOFFERSEN: I don't know if there is any option at. <br />this time. We have considered several different drainage plans. <br />We have even considered plans that had not even been presented <br />to the Council. In our initial investigation - we have investi- <br />gated taking pipe down Red FOX Road, trying to find other routing <br />for storm sewer. Really the most practical routing is the way <br />we have it shown. The most economical. <br /> <br />MAYOR CRICHTON: Is there storm sewer existing now on Red <br />Fox Road? <br /> <br />MR. CHRISTOFFERSEN: Just at the two ends. <br /> <br />MR. GEORGE REILING: You're aware that the State intends to <br />dig out their (inaudible) between the highway and the approaches? <br /> <br />MR. CHRISTOFFERSEN: Yes, sir. That's part of the plan. <br /> <br />. <br /> <br />MR. GEORGE REILING: That didn't come forward - to tell <br />the people that that's going to hold a great deal of ponding <br />water. In addition to that, they intend to buy two or three. <br />acres from us on the north side. If that is going to occur, I <br />fail to see why those pipes aren't large enough on this side. <br />Especially after the diversion from.the north end. <br /> <br />MR. CHRISTOFFERSEN: Mr. Reiling, we have been working in <br />conjunction with the State on this and this plan takes into <br />account everything that they're planning. As a matter of fact, <br />about a week ago I had the State verify my computations on <br />hydraulics and I was advised that they fit very well. As a <br /> <br />15 <br />