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ARDEN HILLS CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION — MAY 27, 2025 12 Councilmember Rousseau thanked Undersheriff Ramacher and Commander Hankee for attending the meeting. She knows there are a lot of questions. She thinks she has a more comprehensive understanding of what's happening than the Mayor does. Mayor Grant took exception to that comment. Councilmember Rousseau said she wants to know what's going on in the contracts. She has concerns about systematic monitoring of these individual identifiers around the 24 cities in our metro area. She thanked them for providing information about the body worn cameras. This sounds like a shiny toy that may be nice to have but we don't have an understanding what the metrics are, at this point. Councilmember Weber said he thinks this is bigger than the contract cities and it belongs at the County level. RCSO are the experts and they are more than capable of making that decision. It's their right of way, it's their cameras, it's their information. He doesn't support Flock. He appreciates tools that make their jobs easier but he doesn't think this will have a significant impact for Arden Hills. He would like to see them move forward at the County level, with this. If it comes back to Arden Hills in billing through the contract, so be it. Councilmember Holden said we don't know what happens if there is a data breach. Flock is a private company and she assumes they are more protective of their data than a County system or the BCA. She thinks Flock is a good idea. She noted the Mayor used to work in computer security. She thinks he has as much information on data security as other people at this table. Mayor Grant said there are two in favor. He heard Councilmember Weber say "so be it". Councilmember Weber clarified he does not support Arden Hills moving forward with this. If the County wants to do it, they can do it themselves. Mayor Grant summarized the other two want more information and are unsure. Councilmember Rousseau asked if Undersheriff Ramacher or Commander Hankee will be staying for the Council meeting following this meeting to discuss the ICE activity in the community. Undersheriff Ramacher said that was not brought to his attention. He can speak to the incident. Councilmember Rousseau said some residents reached out with concerns about that activity. She said it seems like there is some uncertainty about the communication. Undersheriff Ramacher said RCSO was not involved. They weren't contacted prior to it. They had to track down who was responsible for that. Through some partnerships, they were able to drill down and determine it was ICE. RCSO doesn't work with ICE. There have been no requests for them to work with ICE. He said the Sheriff called Undersheriff Ramacher and several other from his leadership group. After several phone calls, it was determined it was the Federal Agents, not RCSO.