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ARDEN HILLS CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION — MAY 27, 2025 3 <br />Councilmember Rousseau said those questions are generally answered in data privacy impact <br />assessments. With the machine learning it's important to make sure somebody is making a <br />specific check. When law enforcement is involved, you are making a significant decision. <br />Hopefully it is the person you are looking for vs. someone else that the machine has said, <br />depending on where the technology is. <br />Undersheriff Ramacher said the machine is only gathering a plate number and a picture. <br />Councilmember Rousseau asked how they work with that at night or if the weather is bad. <br />Undersheriff Ramacher said the cameras rely on the reflectivity of the plate. They are infrared <br />cameras so they can read plates at night. He thinks the question is whether or not the camera and <br />software makes mistakes reading an O vs. a zero. <br />Councilmember Rousseau asked where the human component of that is. <br />Commander Hankee said when a deputy gets a hit from Flock, they enter the license plate into <br />their system. <br />Undersheriff Ramacher said the way they use the system is reactive. The deputy is responsible <br />for verifying the information after receiving a hit. If the camera made a mistake and there was an <br />O in the plate, not a zero. When they enter that plate into their database to verify an alert, if the <br />information is wrong, they stop. If it matches, they will go to the area, find the car, stop the <br />vehicle and make an arrest. <br />Mayor Grant asked for confirmation that there are 75 cameras in the squad cars. <br />Undersheriff Ramacher confirmed there are 75. Not every car has an in -car camera system. <br />Every car that patrols the contract cities have the system. <br />Mayor Grant thinks if you put up a Flock camera, the sheriffs department can "be there" because <br />it records a plate number and it can tell you where they're heading. He thinks adding three LPRs <br />is way cheaper than hiring three more officers. <br />Undersheriff Ramacher said all of the contract cities have experienced some population growth <br />in the last 5-10 years. He wants to use technology to police smarter, with the same amount of <br />bodies. <br />Mayor Grant said he agrees there is a magnitude of benefits with the Flock cameras. It equates <br />to an officer sitting on the side of the road. It is more efficient and cost effective, while making <br />our City safer. He wants to make sure the cameras are in the right places. <br />Undersheriff Ramacher said the contract cities and surrounding cities are contiguous. They try <br />to operate as one big city. The budget is parsed out based on formulas. He wanted the <br />implementation of this to be fair to each city. The number of cameras each contract city receives <br />is based on the portion of the budget they pay for. A camera that sits on one side of the street in <br />Arden Hills is mutually beneficial to the Shoreview, North Oaks and all the other cities. His goal <br />was to place the cameras in high traffic areas. He also has to place them where they aren't <br />discriminatory. <br />