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ARDEN HILLS CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION — MAY 27, 2025 7 implication that by not supporting Flock cameras that we some how don't support the safety of our residents. Having it as a line item in the budget is a lot different than it being added to Ramsey County contract for cities and the Ramsey County policing, overall budget. Undersheriff Ramacher said it will be absorbed into that after it's approved. This request is coming mid -budget cycle. It doesn't have to be a separate line item. It will be in addition to the $1.75 million. City Administrator Jagoe said the term of the RCSO contract goes to December 31, 2029. She said the term of the Flock lease agreement for the cameras is still under discussion if it will be a 3 or a 5 year term. If there is a concern in regard to the duration of the lease agreement, maybe RCSO could look at some way to align it so the lease agreement terms out with the contract. Councilmember Weber asked if a contract city ceases to contract with RCSO, what are the costs to decommission the camera? Would the County absorb them into their own system? Commander Hankee said that Flock is a leased system. They have the hardware. Undersheriff Ramacher said when the hardware is updated, it's done at their cost. They continually upgrade the hardware. Councilmember Weber asked if there is a removal fee for the cameras. Undersheriff Ramacher doesn't think so, but he will check with the vendor. Councilmember Holden had an incident in her neighborhood that involved seven different policing agencies. She thinks the Flock system could have prevented that. In reference to the comment that it's not our camera and not our data, she pointed out that RCSO is not our Staff either. We contract with RCSO. We don't have say over the training or any other operational procedure. We contract with Metro-INET and they have access to our emails. We trust the people we contract with. The only information Flock uses is the license plate number of known criminal activity that had been previously entered into the system. Undersheriff Ramacher confirmed. The rest of the captures are 100% benign. Councilmember Monson said that is different from what Commander Hankee said the last time. Commander Hankee said it is capturing the data but it isn't being fed back to RCSO. Councilmember Monson sought clarification. She said, if you don't put in a license, RCSO will still get pinged for the domestic violence warrant that drove by. Commander Hankee said if a vehicle that is in the hot file with BCA drives past a camera, it will ping RCSO. Councilmember Monson said that is not the same as searching for a license plate and having the system dial in to search for it.