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. . Minutes of Regular Council Meeting, December 30 Page three at STH 96 and Hamline. Otto noted that with the update of Hamline, we will get more traffic; therefore, the increase will increase the priority with the State. Van Wormer said they can try to work for a cooperative agreement with the State for this installation; can't guarantee it will be installed. Jerry Sladek asked if the road can be built without curb and storm sewer; feels the walkway is not necessary - who wants to jog with the exhaust fumes; feels there is too much traffic on Hamline to encourage bicycles and joggers. Christoffersen said we need the storm drainage and curb to meet MSA standards. Hansen noted that the Parks Committee has received numerous requests for bikeways and walkways; noted that the on-street bikeway on Johanna Blvd. seems to work well. Christoffersen explained that there was not sufficient right-of-way for a detached bikeway along Johanna Blvd. . Suzanne Dorr asked who will be assessed; feels it is more fair to decide before the improvement rather than after; feels the cost should be shared by all who use Hamline; not only by those whose property abuts Hamline. Woodburn explained that the City policy has been to determine assessments after completion of the project; when all costs are known. Christoffersen explained that there is a provision to assess ahead of time, but it is dangerous to do so before all costs are known; stated a second hearing can be held to pick up additional costs, if necessary. Hansen stated that MSA funds will be used for $614,000 of cost. Woodburn explained that there are several options available to the City to pay for the project; noted that City can assess all or part of the cost, can use budget reserves, can put on general taxes, etc.; said he doubts that there will be an assessment, but he can't speak for the Councilor for future Counc Us . Jerry Timm said he can't foresee why anyone would put the project in without a sidewalk; feels we need a sidewalk. Hansen noted that there have been several accidents on Hamline; asked if we will lose the ditches with a 36' road. Christoffersen said yes; MSA Standards require curb and paved shoulder - there would be no on-street parking, two 12' wide single lanes, and paved shoulders. Hansen said she agrees that a semaphore is needed at STH 96; asked if it will make gaps in traffic. Van Wormer said it will for southbound traffic - will not do anything for northbound on Hamline. Hansen asked if we can eliminate truck traffic, namely army convoys, etc. Answer was. no, not if a State Aid road. Hansen asked if a traffic signal can be installed at City's cost. Answer was, yes. Hicks asked about a "stop" sign as a deterrent for use of Hamline, possibly at Floral Drive. Van Wormer said it would probably not impede traffic that much, and would probably be violated by residents of the area. Hicks sug- gested that we could experiment, and remove it if it doesn't work. Another location for a "stop" was at Arden View Drive and Hamline, a four-way "stop". Van Wormer said he felt the Hamline traffic would run 2 and 3 cars through at one time and then traffic speed would increase further down the road; feels it would be better to try for a traffic signal. Peck asked Van Wormer about experience with a 3-1ane road; noted his own . confusion as to when to enter the center lane for an anticipated turn. Van Wormer said drivers tend to be conservative when confused; reported 3-1ane seems to work well. accidents have been reduced; feels 3-lane roads work satisfactorily. Woodburn noted that the Parks Committee has requested some beautification of this road; asked Christoffersen if we will be able to add for beautifi- cation. Christoffersen said it can be an "add-on" or a separate contract.