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ARDEN HILLS CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION — NOVEMBER 10, 2025 8 amount and the amount spent is a little less across all of those cost centers. When we have underfunded in the past, we were essentially planning that. If it's a matter of a couple percent, we can come in 2% under because we never spend 100% of the budget. Councilmember Monson asked how we get to what Finance Director Yang needs for the next meeting. Mayor Grant said we have answered some of her questions. He hopes we are close so we aren't doing this from the bench on December 8. Councilmember Monson we have to get to a number. Mayor Grant said the EDA is sitting at $100,000 levy. Where does everyone stand? Councilmember Weber said he wants assurance that whatever we negotiate tonight doesn't end up with us at the dais fighting. He said if that's going to happen anyway, let's just do it there. He doesn't want to have the conversation twice. Councilmember Rousseau would be okay with cutting it in half at $50,000. Councilmember Monson said $40,000 because removing $60,000 is a clean levy point. Councilmember Holden agrees with $40,000 because it's a levy point. She doesn't feel that she should be told when she can talk about a subject, even if it's been talked about before. Mayor Grant could go as low as zero, but he could say the $40,000. Councilmember Weber appreciates Councilmember Holden's right to speak when she wants to. We have had meeting after meeting trying to hammer this out. The TNT meeting last year was four and a half hours. That's not the place to be having this discussion. Now is the time. He can live with $50,000. Councilmember Holden said saying that the TNT meeting, which is for the public to hear where we stand on the budget, is not the place to discuss the budget blows her mind. Mayor Grant said the TNT is required by statute. Councilmember Monson said we should do $50,000 on the EDA. Mayor Grant said this is a general consensus during the work session and we could wind up somewhere else on December 8. Mayor Grant said there is the discussion of the $180,000 which is the PIR excess. He asked if anyone wanted to speak to that. Councilmember Monson asked if we assume no shifting, and we want to be positive in 10 years, what is the minimum amount? Finance Director Yang said that is the $180,000.