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ARDEN HILLS PLANNING COMMISSION - JUNE 7,2006 6 Chair Sand asked how they addressed thc amount of illumination of signs to prcvent signs being too bright. Mr. Lehnhoff stated this type of a provision could be added to . Section 1400.15. Chair Sand asked how they would address scrolling signage. Mr. Lehnhoff stated that could be added to Section 1400.13 as being a non-permitted sign and he would work on wording for that provision, He also stated the definition for flashing signs could be adjusted to account for scrolling signs. Commissioner Larson asked if they could prohibit scrolling signagc bcing changed more than a certain number of times during the day. Mr. Lelmhoff reviewed the three options for off-premise signs, He stated that these options were a starting point and would require modification. He pointed out the spreadsheet that shows how other cities handle off-premise signs. He noted that most cities do not permit signs in the public right-of-way. Mr. Lehnhoff stated that the only thing we can't do is give a broad exemption to real state, open house, or other specific types of signs. Commissioner Zimmerman stated he agreed with Option C in regards to off-premise sIgns. He questioned how real estate companies would be able to put up Open House signs if the signs were put up on the weekends and City Hall was closed. Commissioner Larson expressed concern that people would not register and ask lor . permission to place their signs and he believed the City would need to remove the signs. He did not believe they should enforce realtor signs, garage sale signs, ete., but rather enforce transient signs. He statcd Option C with the requirement of the name and address, obtaining written permission, and coming to City Hall for registering their signs was not workable. Commissioner Modesette stated she was more in favor of Option C over Options A and B. She stated she did not see why they had to say "during daylight hours" if this was a temporary sign, Chair Sand bclieved Option C was the most flexible, but he agreed that some of the provisions within Option C were not workable, such as registering with City Hall, as well as the owner's name and address on the signs. He stated with respect to a half mile rule, there might be instances where more signage was required if it was a difficult location to find. Commissioner Thompson stated he agreed with Commissioner Modcsette with respect to daylight hours noting that in the winter, daylight was very short. She indicated they might want to require the sign be taken down within a certain time period after the event. She agreed having a name and address on the sign should not be included, as well as the registration with City Hall. She liked the aspect of the written permission if it was on someone else's property. She asked if they needed to address that the City had the right . to remove and destroy any sign if was in violation of the Code. Patrick Ruble, Government Affairs Director for SL Paul Area Association of Realtors, stated they struggled with sign issues on a daily basis. He thanked staff for being open