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. ........ LL <( Q;: C . ARDEN HILLS PLANNING COMMISSION - JUNE 7, 2006 7 Mr. Lehnhoff reviewed the three options for off-premise signs. He stated that these options were a starting point and would require modification. He pointed out the spreadsheet that shows how other cities handle off-premise signs. He noted that most cities do not permit signs in the public right-of-way. Mr. Lehnhoff stated that the only thing we can't do is give a broad cxemption to real state, open house, or other specific types of signs. Commissioncr Zimmerman stated hc agreed with Option C in regards to off-premise signs. He questioned how real estate companies would be able to put up Opcn House signs if the signs were put up on the weekends and City Hall was closed. Commissioner Larson cxpressed concern that people would not register and ask for pemlission to place their signs and he belicved the City would need to remove the signs. He did not believe they should enforce realtor signs, garage sale signs, etc., but rather enforce transient signs. He stated Option C with the requirement of the name and address, obtaining written pennission, and coming to City Hall for registering their signs was not workable. Commissioner Modesette stated she was more in favor of Option C over Options A and B. She stated she did not see why they had to say "during daylight hours" if this was a temporary sign. Chair Sand believed Option C was the most flexible, but he agreed that some of the provisions within Option C were not workable, such as registering with City Hall, as well as the owner's nanle and address on the signs. He stated with respect to a half mile rule, there might be instances where more signage was required if it was a difficult location to find. Commissioner Thompson stated he agreed with Commissioner Modesette with respect to daylight hours noting that in the winter, daylight was very short. She indicated they might want to require the sign be taken down within a certain time period after the event. She agreed having a name and address on the sign should not be included, as well as the registration with City Hall. She liked the aspect of the written permission if it was on someone else's property. She asked if they needed to address that the City had the right to remove and destroy any sign if was in violation of the Code. Patrick Ruble, Government Affairs Director for St. Paul Area Association of Realtors, stated they struggled with sign issues on a daily basis. He thanked staff for being open and cooperative with working with the realtors on these issues. He stated signage was very important to marketing real estate and he wanted to work with City staff more on this issue. He stated if there was an issue with a realtor sign, the City could call him and he would contact the owner of the sign and have them remove it. He indicated if they would be required to register with the City Hall and obtain property owner permission, this would be a burden to realtors, but if they could register one time on-line, this might be a possibility. He believed there were ways to work with the City on this issue. Angela Hames, Real Estate Agent and resident of Arden Hills, stated she has been a resident of Arden Hills for 13 years. She stated she would be happy to address any qucstions with respect to the business of real estate and the SigIlage. She stated that limiting off-premise signs to 110 more than four was problematic for neighborhoods that