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. ARDEN HILLS PLANNING COMMISSION - DECEMBER 6, 2006 3 to his fathcr and the logo was being proposed to rcmain as depicted and is on the current . sign. He noted the only thing they might add is their phone number underneath the logo, Commissioner Thompson asked if American Car Care Centers was related to the business. Mr. Lehnhoff responded it was related to the business. Mr. Brausen noted American Car Care Centers was their franchise. He asked if they could speed up the time and temperature to less than 30 seconds and then leave the advertising on for 30 seconds. Mr. Reiter, sign representative, statcd if they could put thc time and temperature up for 5 seconds that would bc sufficient. He noted they could display both time and tempcrature at the same time. He noted a message for ten seconds was a long time for a message to display, He believed ten seconds was sufficient for a message, Chair Sand asked if he was suggesting a two message change, one with time and tempcrature <md one with a message. Mr. Rieter responded that was COlTect. He stated they wanted to run this sign responsibly. Commissioner Larson asked if a five second timc and tempcrature and a ten second message was sunicient. Mr. Reitcr rcsponded thcy could try that and see ifit worked, Mr. Lehnhoff noted when he checked with other cities, thosc cities did not always . specifically rcgulate the timing of the signage. Instead, other cities left it open to be detcrnlined for each sign based on location, use, and the potential for driver distraction. Chair Sand stated he believed they should leavc it up to the sign expe11 as to what would \vork and staff could check this. Mr. Lehnhoff suggcsted they have a "bottom number" so staff had somc boundary to work with. Commissioner Zimmerman stated he did not want a scrolling sign and 5-10 seconds was .... close to scrolling. He recommended a longcr period of time (i.e. 20 seconds). He noted 1.1- this would maximize the most people coming by. Mr. Brausen stated they did not object <C to having thc mcssagc on longer, but he would like the time and temperaturc left on for a shorter period of time. ~ Mr. Rieter suggested thcy just start out with a number and see how it wcnt. Chair Sand recommcnded Condition 4 bc revised to read: The electronic message center shall not change messages more frequently than once per 5 scconds and shall be subject to adjustment by the City in accordance with Condition 10 below, Mr. Brausen stated he was agrecable to this. Chair Sand moved, seconded by Commissioner Thompson to modify Condition 4 to read: Thc electronic message center shall not changc messages morc frequcntly than once per 5 . seconds and shall be subject to adjustment by the City in accordance with Condition] 0 below, The motion caJTied (4-2) (Commissioners Larson and Zimmerman opposed),