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ARDEN HILLS PLANNING COMMISSION - DECEMBER 6,2006 3 Chair Sand stated as he understood it, there would be three messages (time, temperature, and advertising). He asked if this was three messages or one message. Mr. LehnhofT . rcsponded the time would be up for 30 seconds, the temperature would be up for 30 seconds, and the advertising specials would be up for 30 seconds. He noted not all three messages would be up for 30 seconds total, and there may be more than one advertising message. Commissioner Larson asked if the sign shown was going to read the way it was presented with respect to the reference to gas. Mr. Brausen, applicant, stated the logo was a trihute to his father and the logo was being proposed to remain as depicted and is on the current sign. He noted the only thing they might add is their phone number underneath the logo. Commissioner Thompson asked if American Car Care Centers was related to the business. Mr. Lehnhoff responded it was related to the business. Mr. Brauscn noted American' Car Care Centers was their franchise. He asked if they could specd up the time and temperature to less than 30 seconds and then leave the ~ advertising on for 30 seconds. LLo, M r. Reiter, sign representative, stated if they could put the time and temperature up for 5 <( seconds that would be sufficicnt. He noted they could display both time and tcmperature t:c: at the samc time. He notcd a message for tcn seconds was a long time for a message to 0 display, He believed ten seconds was sufficient for a message. . Chair Sand asked if he was suggesting a t\'.'O message change, one with timc and tcmperaturc and one with a message. Mr. Rieter respondcd that was corrcct. He statcd they wanted to run this sign responsibly, Commissioner Larson asked if a five second time and temperature and a tcn second message was sufficient. Mr. Reiter responded they could try that and sce if it worked, Mr. Lchnhoff noted when he checked with other cities, those cities did not always specifically regulate the timing of the signage. Instead, othcr cities kftit open to be deteffi1ined for each sign based on location, use, and the potential for driver distraction. Chair Sand stated he believed they should leave it up to the sign expert as to what would work and staff could check this. Mr. Lehnhoff suggested they have a "bottom number" so staffhad some boundary to work with. Commissioner Zimmem1an stated he did not want a scrolling sign and 5-10 seconds was close to scrolling. He recommended a longer period of time (i.e. 20 seconds), He noted this would maximize the most people coming by, Mr. Brallscn stated they did not object to having the message on longer, but hc would like the time and temperature left on for a shorter period of time. Mr. Rieter suggcstcd thcy just start out with a number and see how it went. . Chair Sand recommended Condition 4 be revised to read: The electronic message centcr shall not change messages more frequcntly than once per 5 seconus and shall be subject