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Meeting Minutes - TCAAP City CouncilPlanning Commission Worksession 2. View corridors should be considered for future expansion of roads into the existing National Guard property if that ever becomes available for future development. 3. Some members of the Joint Committee agree with the members of the public who feel the residential density included in the preliminary program is too high. 4. Committee members would like to see the financial numbers supporting the need for the range of different land uses, particularly the residential numbers. 5. David McClung and Fran Holmes suggested the planning team illustrate a plan with half the programmed residential units (1100 units rather than 2200 units). 6. Most members agree that a variety of housing types should be included in the development at TCAAP, just not so dense. One member of the committee feels people just don't want to live in higher density housing types such as condominiums or apartments. 7. There was discussion about the aging population base and the desire for baby boomers to down-size their homes, moving from single family homes to townhomes and condominiums, which is consistent with the data provided by Betty HardIe in earlier meetings with the committee. 8. Not all on the committee feel the density range is too high as proposed in the preliminary development program. 9. The group reviewed current land use numbers (acres and percentage ofland use) in Arden Hills and the impact of those numbers ifTCAAP is built out as proposed in the preliminary program. (See attached). The current residential density in Arden Hills is 2 dwelling units per acre. With the addition of the proposed TCAAP program, the city's residential density would raise to 3 dwelling units per acre. 10. It was mentioned that the average range of residential units proposed in the preliminary program is much less than the average range of residential units proposed in the Vision Framework. Not all agreed that the Vision Framework numbers could be relied upon. II. Stacie (Ehlers) mentioned to the group that once a preferred plan is more defined the planning team and financial consultants can get a better idea of the project costs and balance them with needed land use program and residential densities needed to make the development financially feasible. The process will be an iterative one. 12. It was clear from the discussion that a worksession that focused on the financial implications of the development is necessary. 13. Need to define different retail considerations for development at TCAAP. V. Specific comments regarding Roads, Open Space and Land Uses represented on the 3 Preliminary Plans: Roads I. Most (8 people) preferred the roads and open space represented on Concept A. 2. 3 members expressed a desire to eliminate the road connection through the wildlife corridor. 3. Two members stated a desire for the road through the wildlife corridor to provide access to the athletic fields. 4. One member suggested a desire for curvy roads to slow traffic. Another member disagreed that curvy roads don't necessarily slow traffic (citing the speeding traffic around Lake Josephine) 5. No long thoroughfares. 6. One preference for the road layout in Concept B. 7. Consider the use of a few cul-de-sacs to create neighborhoods in the single family areas. 4