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ARDEN HILLS CITY COUNCIL - SEPTEMBER 10, 2007 12 amp whereas the normal is 100 amp service. He commented the amps drawn would be is different during different times of the day depending upon sunlight. Mayor Harpstead asked how many lights were on the sign prior to the expansIOn. Mr. McCarver replied there were four. Mayor Harpstead asked how many LEDs were on the current sign. Mr. McCarver replied there were probably thousands. Mayor Harpstead questioned the depth of the sign before and after the expansion. Mr. McCarver replied the panel was two inches deep and the LED can is eight to ten inches deep. Mayor Harpstead requested the weight of a vinyl panel. Mr. McCarver replied 1,000 to 1,500 pounds. Mayor Harpstead asked what the sign weighed with the LED. Mr. McCarver replied between 9,000 to 10,000 pounds. Mayor Harpstead asked whether the pole required modification to carry the additional weight. Mr. McCarver replied yes. CounciImember Grant referenced Mr. Liszt's handout, page five and read "or other devices visible and intended to advertise" and all lighting or other attachments, the lighting was considered an attachment. He commented this was removed and the sign is now lighted internally. He stated he views this as the lighting had clearly changed. Mr. Liszt replied the State Statute within the definition of advertising device includes lighting; therefore, State Statute governs and controls the lighting of advertising signage along the interstate. He stated the LED sign did not violate the State Statute under 173.16 and Clear Channel is in compliance. He stated that if City requires different standards, it must make submission to the State Commissioner. Councilmember Grant stressed that the lighting, as defined, is an attachment and it is no longer an attachment on the sign, it is an integral part of the sign. Mr. Liszt replied the lighting is in compliance with the State Statutes. CounciImember Holden questioned if the lighting is external or internal. Mr. Liszt replied the ordinance allows for external lighting and that is what they have; the LED is external. Mr. McCarver explained the lighting red, green, and blue diodes sit external to the sign that light in sequence to illuminate the sign. CounciImember Holden questioned again if the face is flush. Mr. McCarver replied there are lights on the outside that stick out and louvers about two inches long that direct or control ambient light. He stated the electricity is directed to the diodes. CounciImember Holden pointed out additional changes to the plan. She requested whether the additional 9,000 pounds was added to support the new lighting. She asked for the depth of the sign when it was vinyl. Mr. McCarver replied the can holding the electrical equipment makes up the bulk of the weight and the face is now between eight and ten inches versus the original two inches on the vinyl sign.