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Email between Council member McClung and Fire Chief Tim Boehlke TB: I know that one of the points the Arden Hills Council brought up was that they would like to see the proceeds from the sale of the old Ladder 3 go back to all three cities to offset the capital expenditure. I didn't really think about it at the time but Ladder 3 was purchased by the City of Shoreview and not all three cities. I think the current plan of taking the proceeds from the sale of the old ladder and sending that money back into the fire departments General Fund might be the better option. especially since the General fund helped pay for many different things such as: Duty Crew program, part of the Fire Chiefs salary, the Fire Marshal's salary, and about $100,000 worth of Fire Run and Drill Compensation in 2007. TB: It sounds like the financing plan that was presented to all three cities is really the best option since Shoreview doesn't have money available this year to be put towards a down payment. I think the City Managers have recently discussed this. DM: First, somewhere in my files, and I can't find it right at the moment, I have a document that you provided, either to the joint 3 city council meeting or at aBOD meeting regarding the apparatus replacement schedule. As I remember, in that policy, ladder apparatus were to be replaced every 25 years, pumpers every 20, grass/utility pickups every 15 years and chief vehicles every 7 years. Could you please find that and get a copy to me? TB: I have attached a copy of the truck replacement schedule. DM: Second, I assume that since if the cities purchase a vehicle with a ladder it will be considered for purposes of replacement a ladder. It will be fully credited on the ISO ratings as a ladder truck and 12 of an Engine company. I would like clarification on what your intention is for replacement of this rig, should the cities purchase it for the department. Will it be replaced 20 years from now or 25 years from now? TB: Those are the two options under your current capital replacement schedule. The replacement aerial for L-3 will meet or exceed the old L-3 as far as ISO credit; it likely will not get full credit for a ladder since it won't carry some of the ground ladders that a full blown ladder truck carries. We also will lose credit for not having "ladder service companies" with the sale of unit 765 and 761 (old E-3), but we have gained a lot of points for a much improved training program, Auto aid agreements, and our Duty Crew staffing program. I am not real worried about ISO at this point in time. The Demo aerial will be put in the capital equipment replacement schedule to be replaced in 25 years, or the year 2033. DM: Third, can you please provide me with a revised copy of the capital replacement schedule for apparatus so I can see where items fit into that schedule assuming the sale of Ladder 3 this year and the purchasing of the General demo ladder truck? I would like to see year ofprojected replacement and your anticipated cost of replacement (using the current assumptions you use to forecast out-ear purchase, although it would be nice to