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l J ARDEN HILLS CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION - SEPTEMBER 8, 2008 3 Councilmember Grant stated he liked the way the North Oaks development looked with 256 units. He questioned however, if this development could be scaled down. Ms. K vilvang reviewed how this development was broken down between owner occupied and senior housing. She noted the North Oaks units were on 8.6 acres, which included a pond. Mayor Harpstead stated the amenities do add to the appeal of the developments. He indicated the number of units may need to be increased to allow for the amenities such as a community room, larger landscaped areas, pools, etc. Councilmember Holden stated she wanted TCAAP to be viable and that most of the sites they toured had their own gym, coffee shop, and additional services so there would be no need to go outside of the unit. Ms. Kvilvang indicated there is always a need for a grocery store and other services not provided within the senior housing. Councilmember Holmes noted concern for developing new strip malls within the TCAAP site due to the fact Rosedale was such a commercial draw. She questioned if the new residents would use these new services. Councilmember Holden asked how the Council can be sure the added services within TCAAP remain viable. City Administrator Moorse added that all the sites have to be planned in a way that they work together cohesively for the surrounding residents. Councilmember Grant questioned how many amenities could be added to each site. Ms. K vilvang noted this would greatly depend on affordability both for the senior housing and market rate. Councilmember Grant asked if the residential rental units were going to be affordable. He stated he would prefer a higher ratio of owner occupied to rental within the TCAAP development, noting condominiums may be a favorable product.