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Request for Council Review
2A
Prepared By: Patrick Klaers,City Administrator Worksession Date: May 2,2011 -
Goal Setting
Discussion Topic:
Discussion on City goals.
Supporting Documents:
1. Memorandum dated May 2,2011, from Patrick Klaers, City Administrator.
2. Summary of Interviews
3. February 12th TCAAP Meeting Notes
4. March 16th Brainstorming Meeting Notes
5. Goals
EN HILLS
MEMORANDUM
DATE: May 2,2011
TO: Honorable Mayor and City Councilmem7olw�
FROM; Patrick HIaers, City Administrator 1
SUBJECT: Goal Setting
The City Council will be meeting in a work session Monday, May 2, 2011, to discuss
City goals. This will be the third meeting on goals with our facilitator, Bill Jaynes. To
everyone's surprise,the first meeting on February 12th was dedicated to TCAAP and a
possible stadium project. The second meeting was the brainstorming session and
unfortunately this meeting took place on a week day evening rather than on a Saturday
morning when everyone was fresh and energized. Also, unfortunately, we will not have a
full Council for our meeting on Monday. All-in-all, the City Council and Staff has
experienced some challenges in working through this goal setting process. Adding to the
list of challenges is the fact that,within the last 12 months, we have three new Staff
members (out of four) and two new Councilmembers that are now working on this City
of Arden Hills goal setting project. Nonetheless, Staff is very optimistic that the Council,
Staff and facilitator will bring everything together and that we will come out of this
Monday meeting with an achievable, high priority work program.
The basis of the brainstorming exercise were the conversations the Council and Staff had
individually with Bill regarding what was going on in Arden Hills, what problems we are
having, and what issues we see that need to be addressed in order to make Arden Hills a
better place to live and work for everyone.
In trying to organize the results and make sense out of the brainstorming exercise that
was held on Wednesday, March 16, 2011, Staff has met twice with Bill Joynes. There
were a lot of topics discussed on March 16th and not all of the discussion items were easy
to categorize. Some items discussed were true goals and other items were more on the
order of work tasks and assignments; some items discussed were "big picture" issues and
some issues/concerns were smaller and more immediate in scope.
As a result of the March 161"work session, Staff has identified 19 goals that the Council
needs to further discuss and prioritize. It is anticipated that Staff will end up working on
most of the 19 goals and that the work program will be for two plus years. As Staff
begins to work on the top goals, we will add details to the broad based action steps that
are listed for each goal and make any necessary cost and time required estimates. Staff
will also plan on periodic updates and discussions with the Council as work on these -_
goals moves forward and we will have a more formal "progress report" work session in
about six months (January 2012).
Work on the top priority goals will be in addition to Staffs current day-to-day, weekly,
monthly, seasonal, etc., work that is required to manage and run the City, and is in
addition to TCAAP. If TCAAP is selected as the stadium site this year, all bets are off
for additional Staff assignments for a while. If the Stadium bill is site neutral and we do
not have a site selected for two years, then everyone knows that this could also dominate
our lives for a while. And, if the stadium goes away, then we would need to work with
GSA on a plan to sell the TCAAP property.
It has been a lengthy goal setting process; but I think that in the end Staff will obtain clear
and realistic direction from the Council on what they want to see accomplished over the
next few years.
Attachments
Summary of Interviews
February 12`h TCAAP Meeting Notes
March 16t' Brainstorming Meeting Notes
Goals
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Council/Staff Interviews
City of Arden Hills
January 20 thru February 3, 2011
Introduction•
Interviews were conducted during the above time period with the five
members of the City Council and four members of the management staff.
The purpose of the interviews was to gather opinions from City officials on
the significant issues facing Arden Hills in the next two years and to solicit
their feelings about the general climate between Staff and the City Council.
The participants were advised that their comments would be confidential and
that issues raised by more than two respondents would come forward for
discussion.
I would like to thank everyone for their candor and thoughtfulness.
Critical Issues:
The Council and Staff were encouraged to offer their thoughts on major
issues for the City in general, as well as in their areas of responsibility.
Below you will find a list of those issues identified. There was general
consistency in the issues identified and those listed below had a majority of
the participants asking to have them discussed.
Twin Cities Arsenal Development
TCAAP has obviously been on everyone's radar for many
years. With the latest conversations around the stadium issue,
there is an expressed need to revisit the City's role in
development options, understanding what the jurisdictional
roles will be and how Arden Hills might coordinate with the
business community to encourage and have input into possible
development scenarios. What are the consequences to the City
of rapid and large scale development?
Ci -wide Ph sicaI Infrastructure:
Given the age of the City's physical plant, there is a need to
start discussing long term improvements to streets, sewer,
water, ponds and storm sewer systems. There was a general
feeling that the City needed to develop policies for replacement,
long term maintenance and financing. In addition, there needs
to be attention given to organizational databases and possible
GIS use.
Development Coordination:
The City has several development entities with varying degrees
of authority and responsibility (FPAC, EDA, and EDC). There
is confusion as to how they coordinate and how effective they
are. Some of the committees have been inactive and some seem
to have overlapping responsibilities. This needs to be clarified
and roles need to be defined.
Organizational Infrastructure:
Arden Hills has experienced greater than normal turnover in its
key management positions over an extended period of time. As
a result, internal record systems and operational policies have
been neglected or are inconsistent. Data retention, retrieval and
standard operating procedures are thought to be lacking or in
need of updating.
Human Resource Functions:
The City currently has no staff resources with significant HR
experience or responsibility. The Finance Director has recently
been given that assignment, but long term, that may not be
appropriate given her current work load. Options to deal with
this function should be discussed.
Rental Re istration:
The City's role in the licensing and possible maintenance
enforcement of rental property was mentioned frequently. At
present there seems to be no pressing issue with substandard
dwellings with the exception of minor complaints about the
number of vehicles per property. Questions were raised about
whether the City should become more proactive in this area.
Communications:
This is a general category mentioned by all interviewees but
with many different perspectives. I have listed below the areas
that received comments:
Emergency Communications Plan
Monthly budgetary reporting
Use of e-mail
Newsletter editorial policy
Business connections
Staff/ Council information exchange
(what do we want to know and when)
Complaint handling and tracking
Miscellaneous Issues:
Some attention was requested on the following set of issues that
would be considered second tier based on frequency of
response:
B-2 Planning
Trail system improvements
Entry signs
Consent agenda use
E-2 bridge on Snelling Avenue
Respecting each others time
Police and Fire Contracts
Conclusions:
With the change that has occurred in the City over the last few years it is
entirely understandable that both Council and Staff are feeling at loose ends
about what direction the City should pursue. There is a clear opinion from
the Council that there is a need for stability in key staff positions and for the
City to develop an effective Council/Staff team. The Staff is looking for
concrete priorities to be established through the retreat process so that they
can produce a two to three year work plan for Council approval. All parties
feel that the resources and capabilities are now present to proceed and
everyone appears to be willing to spend time to accomplish the above
mentioned results.
Council Strategic Planning Session Notes—February 12 2011
Items Circled inGreen
Fiscal Disparities
T|FforTCAAP
Land Uses
Our Tax Responsibility
Public Safety Costs
Other City Costs
Off-site Parking
Manufactured Home Park Issues
Design Standards
Other Options for site
Communications
Do nothing
Complications ofAuction
Zoning and Planning Process
Our Environmental Attorney involvement
Council Strategic Planning Session Notes—February 12, 2011
Qthpr Infr_astrueturo (deleted)
Improvements/After Life
Get the Anoka Agreement
Water Tower
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Council Strategic Planning Session Notes—February 12, 2011
Items Circled in Orange
Renewable Energies/Infrastructure
County Partnership
Noise Pollution
Light Pollution
Surrounding Development%of Land Used
Traffic Study
Cleaning of Land
Ownership of Land
Truck Traffic
Ongoing Operations/Oversight
Infrastructure Study
Economic Impact Study
What is the Time Line
Property Tax Impact
Other Part of the Vikings Business
Re-use/Demolition
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Council Strategic Planning Session Notes—February 12, 2011
Items Circled in Red
Will There be a Roof
Capacity of Stadium
Height Issues -
Land Acquisition
Politics of Other Sites
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Council Strategic Planning Session Notes—February 12, 2011
Next Steps:
What do we do?
What do others do?
What do we do now?
What is our feeling now?
Communications
Elected Officials—Mayor is spokesperson
Staff—Pat or Jill are spokespersons
Statements to Press
Q&A—Fact Sheet—Jill and Pat will prepare and Council will approve
Educating the public on the realities of TCAAP
Council Present Position
Open/Cautious
Exploring Options
Getting more information
Opportunity
Next Considerations
Target Survey
�glthor�ty_of the,City,
Staff Resources
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Council Strategic Planning Session Notes—February 12, 2011
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Clean Website of old TCAAP Data
Zoning
Zoning Amendment
Comp Plan Amendment(4/5 vote)
P.U.D. (4/5 vote)
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3-16-11 Meeting Notes
City-Wide Physical Infrastructure
(4 votes)
• Pavement Management Program — 5 year plan inclu sewer, wafer, and storm
sewer—will be reranking streets in 2011-12 and_...t. II PMP plan will need to be re-
evaluated.
• Assessment Policy needs to be review- updated. {
• City (generally) does not bond for public F ovemex projects.
• GIS needs to become part of1t"'WIGit databas ed Roseville's help to get -
information inputted into the Ci s gipping system 'II improve staff efficiencies
and allow for more information to ava'I I .to the atic.
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• Lift Stations — rkneedebn fours o ee dd SCADA (in 2012 CIP).
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Water Tower— insp ..ction pry am and tenance program are needed.
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3-16-11 Meeting Notes
Development Coordination
(2 votes)
Need to clearly define the roles and missions of the E , EDC, and FPAC.
■ Need to review why the groups were establishe ,, � what they can do for the
City today.
■ Need to consider how EDC and FPAC can-, ork togcfher.
■ Do the advisory groups need some train6g'.
feik• Need to define the role of the Council Gaon for the EDC anda FV:a'-A!�C. Does the
advisory group set the work plan and it 9 to the o ncil; or ie-work plan
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decided by the Council and diryection then g t. advisory grow
• Look at the role in City govern ri " 1'410"3ATn EDA ai"',.,. .gal authority of the EDA.
Need to have the EDA meet on ular is.
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3-16-11 Meeting Notes
Organizational Infrastructure
(3 votes)
• City Policies
■ Need to get the files organized — get rid of old mater al, review currently
used/followed policies, get Council approval oZfkli6on
es if needed, look at Public
Works (including Parks and Trails) and Admi g and Community -
Development (development issues especia`., q or:n eded new or updated
policies.
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• Follow through on scanning of City reco.r 5 s into Laserfiche (projc#for all
departments) —ensure retention of records and availgbility of age =as, minutes and
packets from City Council an dvisory groin
• Council needs a laptop policy 3 t; Coun mbers mainly)
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■ Need to look at doing parts o s°.me Cotircil pack'e"t,electronically.
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• Staff needs traini�g�on information to nology hat`*-- vai lab le and used at City Hall.
• Establish Record s"IVI page. e t Goals
■ pa ;, entry .
■ r s in sem clean o o-_- anize storage area and use the safe
a safe)
■ e e.cfronic files (eli Hate duplicates and get rid of old and unneeded materials)
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3-16-11 Meeting Notes
Human Resources Functions
(2 votes)
• Management Issues and Clerical ("paper work") Issuex both need work
■ personnel is the area of most municipal lawsuits&&ms (per League insurance)
Staff training necessary W.
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■ supervisor training w,. O
• employee work environment (not b i p. ostile environnhment)
■ sexual harassments
■ etc.
• Staff needs to use expert adviitihen in doub C, consultants, legal, etc. -
• Need to review current status of rd olicies get needed new/additional
policies to City Co
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3-16-11 Meeting Notes
Rental Registration
(3 votes)
• Fully implement the program —get more participation.
■ evaluate goals of program
■ are the restrictions in the program enforceable .i o more than 4 cars in the
driveway)
■ "education" and public information about t Rog can be improved.
• To what extent can the City legally regul' ental housing?.<r,;%,.
• Is the City liable if it doesn't enforce the p gram or ordinancand "something„
happens —fire, death, out of c trol parties;e � ;
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• Is a goal of the City to preserve T stock. ,.
■ How can the program help a I?
• The City needs - x ve eful be die i 41 nsing program. (What all is
included in a lice ; g prog ?)
• Need f9M11,he p�oble a tin er metro cities/neighborhoods where
col ege , '' rs a Usines e t (i.e., St. Paul and St. Thomas
yph\
• Will thee S e.riff help enf sect ons of the ordinance/program or are these more
like code enfo.rcement is ?
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3-16-11 Meeting Notes
Communications
(4 votes)
• "On-call" Public Works employees — notify Council — (done).
• Get Resource Guide to the Council — (done).
• Council training on how to use "Share Point" is. e.
• Safety training for Council and staff :of appens if an ergency situation
develops — (Sheriff scheduled for the 4/1:8/11 Council work 5 ' ).
Newsletter and Council/Mayo rticles —ther icy on conte d one is
needed. -
• Web page policy on postings ne¢ ed.
• Need to reach more citizes�with tec ol :,` . soc�al o= e ntworks, digital information,
put newsletter o ectroni"•,ally, use c bettermore.
• Council ii . nee rm with entire Council (reporting and
gettmg:,xi ec o
• How ,ouncil and staffgshould inte7act and communicate—go through the
AdminisN' r as approp-ri te. NO,
• Does the City n a Citizen Complaint Policy?
• The City needs to co; � t better/more with its businesses.
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3-16-11 Meeting Notes
Miscellaneous Issues
(10 votes . . . spread out)
(2) Review Police and Fire Contracts.
(2) Establish design standards for commercial/i al buildings.
(3) Crime in Arden Hills — increased crime oncern we need to get better
information from Sheriff on activitie hat the City o to reduce crime.
(0) Improve Budget/Finance reporting (q xs erly reports). This wiJbe discussed at a
future meeting — maybe arotund the cussions.
(2) Entry signs (get some Gate approve dered, and installed).
(3) B2 planning a V - . bridge r 51. ;
IF Bridge w ed for 20 r
■ Desire t i -evaluate transp n section.-
■ Will be selecting a pla ' Ong/design;[consulting firm to put the details into a
# Plan nee ed}:inoz e�to st" hinking about bidding out and doing
imp a "f ent � t.
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ADMINISTRATION
Records Management
Goal: Maintain City Records
Action Steps:
1. Develop policies and procedures for records management including Central files.
2. Review Records Retention schedule and revise as needed on an annual basis.
3. Train staff on records retention.
4. Develop policy for storing records on laserfiche. -
5. Develop a system for scanning and retention of historical documents now housed in
the basement.
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ADMINISTRATION
Human Resources
Goal: Establish and refine Human Resource functions within the City.
Action Steps•
1. Draft operating procedures, forms, and policies.
2. Train all supervisors on proper procedures.
3. Organize employee files.
4. Review/update personnel policy.
5. Provide staff and Council training on:
• sexual harassment
• hostile work environment
• technology use
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ADMINISTRATION
Human Resources
Goal: Enhance employee relations and development.
Action Steps:
1. Establish Safety Committee.
2. Establish Wellness Committee.
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ADMINISTRATION
Communications —Technology
Goal: Use current technology to further enhance efficiencies and communications
Action Steps:
1. Complete employee intranet (SharePoint) set-up.
2. Draft procedures on use of technology.
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ADMINISTRATION
Communications —Technolo
Goal: Provide training to staff and Council on technology use.
Action Steps:
1. Train staff and Council on use of intranet (SharePoint).
2. Provide on-going support and training on current and new technology on:
A. SharePoint
1) Messages
2) Forms -
3) Information
4) Resources
5) Departments uses
B. Windows
C. Office Applications
1) Excel
2) Word
3) Access
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ADMINISTRATION
Council Liaisons
Goal: Establish guidelines for how Council Liaisons interact with Commissions and
Committees.
Action Steps: -
1. Place topic on Council work session agenda for City Council discussion and
feedback.
2. Define the role and responsibilities of the Council Liaison for the:
• Planning Commission
• Communications Committee -
• Parks, Trails, and Recreation Committee
• Economic Development Commission
• Finance, Analysis and Planning Committee
• Karth Lake Association Board
3. Draft Council Liaison Policy.
4. Adopt Council Liaison Policy.
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ADMINISTRATION
Crime
Goal: Increase public awareness of public safety/crime issues.
Action Steps:
1. Invite Sheriff to City Council work session to discuss crime prevention and public
awareness programs.
2. Promote participation in public awareness and crime prevention programs.
3. Based on input from Sheriff, City Council decides if increased funding for programs
is appropriate.
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ADMINISTRATION
Police Services
Goal: Review Police Contract.
Action Steps:
1. Invite Sheriff to City Council work session to discuss the Police Contract and the
Police Budget.
2. City Council to review options for increasing services.
3. City Council to review options for reducing expenses.
4. City Council to discuss options for changing providers of police services.
5. City Council decides on direction to take regarding police services.
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ADMINISTRATION
Fire Protection Services
Goal: Review Fire Joint Powers Agreement (JPA)
Action Steps:
1. Invite Fire Chief to City Council work session to discuss JPA and the Lake Johanna
Fire Department (LJFD) capital and operating budgets.
2. City Council to discuss options for increasing services.
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3. City Council to discuss options for reducing expenses.
4. City Council to discuss options for changing providers of Fire Protection Services.
5. City Council to decide on direction to take regarding Fire Protection Services.
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ADMINISTRATION
Communications — Miscellaneous
Goal: Clarify City Council position on various communication issues.
Action Steps-
1. Council to meet in work session to discuss and review:
• a policy on what content of Mayor and Council Newsletter articles is "disallowed."
• a policy on what "public information" is allowed or not allowed on the City
website.
• if the benefits of a City compliant tracking program and procedure is worth the
cost and the required staff time to implement.
• a policy for when it is appropriate for Council members to directly contract City
Staff versus going through the City Administrator.
2. Staff drafts policies per direction of the Council.
3. Council adopts policies on communication issue
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COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
Rental Registration
Goal: Minimize complaints regarding single-family rental properties.
Action Steps:
1. Maximize participation in the 2011 rental registration program.
2. Educate the community on the rental registration program.
3. Work with Ramsey County on enforcement issues.
4. Research rental registration and licensing programs in other cities.
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COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
B-2 District Plan
Goal: Establish a detailed plan for private and public investment in the B2 District.
Action Steps:
1. Determine a process for selection of a consultant for a B2 Implementation Plan.
2. Create realistic short- and long-term development goals for the B2 District.
3. Align public funding to the City's development vision and goals.
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COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
Development Coordination
Goal: Maximize the efficiency and effectiveness of the City's commissions,
committees, and processes related to economic and community development.
Action Steps: -
1. Work with the City Council to determine the role, mission, and goals for each
commission and committee.
2. Research development coordination in other cities.
3. Create a process to evaluate and form policy on development issues.
4. Align available financial tools with achievement of City goals and vision.
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COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
Community Identity
Goal: Foster civic pride and an awareness of the City's distinct character and
attributes.
Action Steps:
1. Install Gateway signs.
2. Create a new, updated City website.
3. Create a commercial community identity.
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COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
Business Outreach
Goal: Develop relationships with the business community and establish a reputation as
a business- and development-friendly City.
Action Steps:
1. Increase contacts with the business community.
2. Support Arden Hills businesses.
3. Research economic development and business outreach efforts in other cities.
4. Complete an economic conditions survey to determine whether additional programs are needed to maintain a healthy economic environment.
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PUBLIC WORKS
City-Wide Infrastructure
Goal: Establish policies/procedures for the maintenance of city streets.
Action Steps:
1. Annual Review of PMP (5 year CIP)
2. Maintain PCI Rating System
3. Review/Amend/Adopt Policies
A. Street Maintenance Policy
B. Snow Removal/ice Control Policy
C. Street Sweeping Policy
D. Sign Management Policy
E. Assessment Policy
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PUBLIC WORKS
City-Wide Infrastructure
Goal: Establish policies/procedures for maintenance of City utilities.
Action Steps:
1. Sanitary Sewers
A. Develop/Adopt Sewer Maintenance Policy
B. Sewer Cleaning/Televising
C. Lift Stations
2. Development Long-Term Sewer Lining/Replacement Plan
A. Elimination of Inflow and Infiltration (I&I)B. Inspection of Sump Pumps
C. Monitor Grant Opportunities
3. Lift Stations
A. Rehabilitate Four Lift Stations (1, 2, 11, 13)
B. Standardize Operations of 14 Lift Stations
4. Consider If and When to Implement SCADA System
5. Monitor Rate Structure vs. Cost to Operate System
6. Water
A. Develop/Adopt Water Maintenance Policy
1) Flushing System
2) Exercising Valves
3) Lining Technology
B. Develop and Implement Water Tower Maintenance
1) Periodic Inspections
2) Minor/Major Repairs
3) Repainting
7. Storm Water/Storm Sewer
A. Implementation of MS4 Permit BMP
1) MS4 Permit Renewal in 2011
B. Update Surface Water Plan
1) (required to be approved RCWD by 6/9112)
C. Develop Long-Term Pond Maintenance Policy
1) Pond Inventory
2) Pond Testing and Prioritization
3) Pond Maintenance Funding
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PUBLIC WORKS
City-Wide Infrastructure
Goal: Establish policies/procedures for maintenance of City parks and trails.
Action Steps:
1. Policies
A. Implement Park Maintenance Policy
B. Develop/Adopt Trail Maintenance Policy
1) Prioritize Trail Maintenance Activities
2) Program Trail Maintenance Activities
C. Develop/Adopt Emerald Ash Bore Policy -
1) Implement Policy
2. Monitor/Present Grant Opportunities
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PUBLIC WORKS
City-Wide Infrastructure
Goal: Establish miscellaneous policies/procedures for operation of Public Works
Department.
Action Steps:
1. Develop/Adopt Fleet Management Policy
A. Program 10 Year Fleet Expenditures
B. Develop/Implement Service/Repair Tracking
2. Restart Safety Committee
A. Ergonomic Analysis of Activities
B. Identify Ergonomic Risks
C. Develop Ergonomic Program
3. Training/Mentoring Internal Policy
A. Safety Training (required)
B. Technical Training (how many, who, how often)
1) Licenses
Sewer, Water, Forestry, Pesticide Sprayer
Playground Inspector, Etc.
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