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CITY OF ARDEN HILLS
PARKS, TRAILS, AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 18, 2007; 6:30 P.M.
ARDEN HILLS CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Henry called the December 18, 2007 meeting of the Parks, Trails and Recreation Committee to order at
6:30 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Committee Chair Bill Henry; Committee Members, Lanny Baumann, Steve Zilmer,
Joani Werner, and Rich Straumann, Roger Williams.
OTHERS PRESENT:
David McClung, Council Liaison; Michelle Olson, Parks and Recreation Manager.
MEMBERS NOT PRESENT
: Committee Members Jim Crassweller and John Peck.
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
MOTION: Committee Chair Henry motioned to approve the agenda as presented. The motion carried
unanimously.
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES – November 20, 2007
Chair Henry had several suggested changes for the November 20, 2007 minutes. He suggested they be brought
back for approval in January.
4. CITY COUNCIL UPDATE – David McClung
Council Member McClung gave an update on the following:
The first meeting in December Council approved the 2008 budget.
The final levy for taxes for 2008 is a 4.6% increase from last year, so that actually comes out to a tax rate
decrease payable to the City. One thing they have for the first time is a small contingency fund.
The developer for Arden Plaza had withdrawn their proposal before it was submitted to the Council. That
night Council approved a moratorium for the B2 zone and have allocated money in the 2008 budget and are
to bring in some planning assistance to assist in putting together a small area plan for County Road E (the
B2 zone), from McDonald’s all the way down to Lexington.
Discussion took place regarding the 5-6 trees on the Arden Plaza property that were cut down. Council Member
McClung indicated they claimed the developer wanted to relandscape the property and are going to bring forth a
proposal in 2008 which they will share with the City. He indicated the City will try to fast track the Tree
Preservation Ordinance so there are no problems in the future.
In the meeting in December Council voted unanimously for Eureka Recycling for a 3-year recycling
contract.
City Administrator Wolfe is moving to Colorado and Council has retained Harry Beal from PDI to go out
and do recruitment for that position. There are two candidates for an interim City Administrator and
depending on whom they select Council will appoint that person Interim Administrator as of January 2,
2008.
Council Member McClung indicated there were three meetings Council had that he wanted to bring to their
attention. The Senate Bonding Committee came to City Hall regarding Hwy 10 and 96, there was a meeting
regarding the old City Hall site and the future of that site, and also a meeting with the Glen Arden
neighborhood regarding the pavement management plan which is scheduled for 2008.
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There was discussion regarding the bonding bill. Council Member McClung stated if the city is unable to get
any federal money now until 2010 they might be out of cycle with the bonding bill this time and would then
have to wait for the next which would be 2 years from now. He stated the request for the bonding bill is tied to
Hwy 10 and 96 and also County Road H. He stated hopefully they could tap into some federal money that
would allow the city to move forward. The city has authorized the developer to move forward with expending
money to go into the beginning stages of planning for the H interchange. They are spending their own money
with the understanding that that is potentially reimbursable down the road, if the City is able to find a way to
reimburse it. He stated there are also Ramsey County turnback funds of roughly $7 million from when 96 was
turned back to the county from the state.
There was also discussion on the committee terms and maintaining the tradition of rotating Council members on
the standing committees. Council Member McClung mentioned there are always openings on the
Communications Committee, so if anyone wants to help with the Newsletter they could use the assistance.
David Sand will be stepping down from the Planning Commission. There will now be an opening on the
Planning Commission. Mr. Sand has indicated he may stay on as the alternate.
5. TRAILS, PARKS AND RECREATION UPDATE – Michelle Olson
Ms. Olson gave an update on the following:
Ice skating rinks opened on December 17.
Because mobile-mini overbooked their rentals Ms. Olson had to find a substitute for the Valentine rink.
Hazelnut and Sheehy will be added to the Cummings Park tennis court bid process which will be going out
in January. It is hoped the work will be done early spring.
Ms. Olson is starting to work on the Spring/Summer Program Guide
Effective January 1 Community Ed will be charging fees for all facility and field use. Ms. Olson indicated
the City decided against charging fees when this was looked at two years ago. She indicated, however, that
it is something she would like to bring forward for discussion. Ms. Olson stated she will bring this issue to a
future work session and analyze the impact of charging back for the maintenance.
Chair Henry would like a recommendation from Ms. Olson on what the City should be doing. He feels
there should be a trade off. He would like Ms. Olson to come back with a funding proposal and would like
her to include a fee schedule that compares with what other cities are doing.
6. PARK NAMING DISCUSSION – Michelle Olson
Ms. Olson stated that since they are making Sheehy a park the committee needs to come up with a name for the
park. She indicated in their packet she has included the naming guidelines that the group came up with. She
indicated that the PTRC would need to discuss and recommend a name for the park to present to the Council.
Chair Henry suggested that staff contact the neighborhood association seeking any input they may have
regarding the name. Ms. Olson indicated she will send a letter to the association asking them for input on a
name for the park. She also indicated the court will be resurfaced and at that time the low points will be fixed.
Discussion ensued over the lights in the park. Ms. Olson indicated they would be taken out since they are not
operable. She stated that there will be a sign once the park is named.
7. ELMER L. ANDERSEN TRAIL SIGNAGE DISCUSSION – Michelle Olson
The Ramsey County Commissioners did approve a resolution officially naming the Elmer L. Andersen
Memorial trail. Ms. Olson received an e-mail from Greg Mack stating they are interested in talking about where
and what type of signs to put in. Ms. Olson feels it is important to be consistent on the design for this sign.
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Chair Henry indicated he thought the conclusion was that they were going to let the county take the lead on the
sign and have some way of calling it the Elmer Andersen Memorial Trail – Arden Hills or Ramsey County.
Ms. Olson indicated she would contact Greg Mack from the county to discuss.
8. ARDEN HILLS WALKABLE COMMUNITY ACTION PLAN – Michelle Olson
Ms. Olson asked for suggestions on the Walkable Community Action Plan.
Chair Henry had a couple corrections to the walking audit recommendations and Ms. Olson will make those
changes.
9. WORK PLAN FOR 2008 – Michelle Olson
Ms. Olson will be reviewing the updated listing of strategies that were discussed at the last meeting. She feels
the committee needs to work a little bit more on making sure that the strategies and priorities are what they want
and to make sure they are where they need to be. She felt there should be discussion about how to move
forward with funding in 2008. Ms. Olson indicated they are doing a phone survey which has questions asking
residents if they would be in favor of helping fund improvements.
Chair Henry asked where they are at with the phone survey. Ms. Olson stated she believes they are near
completion and ready to go but would check on this.
Ms. Olson stated one thing that is in the CIP that the Council did approve going forward with is the CP rail
study which would also include engineering. She mentioned this will not only study the underpass bridge, but
also which side is best for the trail. This will be done in 2008. The trail study goes from 51 to 96.
Chair Henry asked what role CP Rail plays in the study. Ms. Olson indicated CP Rail plays a similar role as
they did with Tony Schmidt. CP Rail stated they did not think the bridge needs improvement but they are open
to discussing working with the City on getting a trail on one side and they would then want to use their own
contractor. They would like to see the City’s proposal and they would then show it to their engineer and would
come up with a complete plan.
Council Member McClung stated that he felt that if they start early, the engineering aspect can be handled and
done so they can get to the utilization portion. He prefers they start this early. The earlier it gets done the more
ammunition he has for this to possibly get completed.
Chair Henry indicated Ramsey County worked with some graduate students to look at a canoe route on Rice
Creek. He stated the study is done and he would like Michelle to get that and bring it to the next meeting in
some form for discussion. He stated at some point they will need to talk about whether or not they should have
a canoe landing where Rice Creek goes through TCAAP.
10. NEXT MEETING
The next meeting is scheduled for Tuesday, January 15, 2008.
11. ADJOURN
MOTION: Committee Member Werner moved to adjourn and Committee Member Zilmer seconded. The
meeting adjourned at 7:30 p.m.
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