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PARKS, TRAILS, & RECREATION COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 22, 2007
**7:00 P.M. MEETING**
ARDEN HILLS CITY HALL
1245 WEST HIGHWAY 96
*****PLEASE BRING FOR REVIEW:
*** FINANCIAL FOLDERS
** COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
AGENDA
1. Call to Order and Roll Call
2. Approve February 22, 2007 Meeting Agenda
3. Ramsey County Parks and Recreation Presentation
a. Tony Schmidt Regional Park Master Plan Draft
b. Rice Creek North Regional Trail
4. Approve November 21, 2006 and December 19, 2006 Meeting Minutes
5. City Council Update—David McClung
6. Parks, Trails, and Recreation Update— Greg Hoag &Michelle Olson
a. Grant Updates
b. Friends of the Parks Tree Donation
c. General Department News
7. PTRC Strategies Plan—Funding Discussion
8. Next Meeting Agenda:
a. Continuation of Funding Discussion
b. Committee Expectations
9. Adj ourn
Attachments:
11-21-06 Minutes
12-19-2006 Minutes
2007 Meeting Dates
Park Funding Survey Information
Commission/Committee Expectations
Ramsey County Parks Commission Commission Agenda for 2113107
Ramsey County Parks&Recreation Commission Minutes from 1113107
A quorum of the City Council may be present at this meeting.
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CITY OF ARDEN HILLS
PARKS,TRAILS,AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING
TUESDAY,NOVEMBER 21,2006; 7:00 P.M.
ARDEN HILLS CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Henry called the October 17,2006 meeting of the Parks,Trails and Recreation Committee to order at
7:02 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Committee Chair Bill Henry, Committee Members Lanny Baumann,Rich
Straumann, Cindy Wheeler, Steve Zilmer, and Dave McClung.
OTHERS PRESENT: Michelle Olson,Park and Recreation Manager; Greg Hoag,Public Works Director;
Gregg Larson, City Council Liaison; Stan Harpstead,Mayor Elect
MEMBERS NOT PRESENT: Committee Members Jim Crassweller and Roger Williams.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION: Committee Chair Henry motioned, seconded by Committee Member Zilmer to approve the
agenda. The motion carried unanimously.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MOTION: Committee Member Zilmer motioned, seconded by Committee Member Baumann to approve
the October 17,2006 minutes. The motion carried unanimously.
3. CITY COUNCIL UPDATE
Council Liaison Larson provided the Committee with the following City Council Update:
• The Council had its last review of the budget last night and will act on the budget next month.
• The Council discussed the "Celebrating Arden Hills" event and it was the consensus to not offer the
event next year.
• TCAAP activities continue to move forward. We initiated negotiations on a new interim development
agreement and the master planning process was underway. The Council was in favor of establishing a
twelve member advisory team. At this point,the General Services Administration(GSA)has not been
successful in getting the sale approved by Congress.
• Royal Oaks has withdrawn their purchase offer for the old City Hall site.
4. PARKS,TRAILS,AND RECREATION UPDATE
Michelle Olson provided the committee with the following update:
• Ms. Olson and Mr. Hoag started discussions regarding flooding and staffing of ice rinks. Applications
were being accepted for rink attendants. There were ten returning seasonal employees and there were
a total of 15 positions to fill.
• Preparations were currently underway for upcoming after school programs. Ms. Olson was also
working on the Safe Routes to School Grant and the DNR Grant.
0 The improvements to the warming house at Freeway Park have been completed.
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• The Public works crew is getting ready for winter. Crews were televising the underground
infrastructure in preparation for the 2007 road projects to identify potential problems.
• Ms. Olson attended the MRPA seminar and was able to in p ark focused sessions. The
participate
sessions covered several topics that she will delve into in the next year.
5. BUCKTHORN REMOVAL AT FLORAL PARK REVIEW
Chair Henry asked for the Committee's thought regarding the buckthorn removal event. His suggestions were
that the event be held a couple of times during the fall and that before the event, the neighborhood be
canvassed to inform residents to help increase participation. Chair Henry further suggested that future events
include a mid-morning break for refreshments and an orientation to parks and trails. As for organization, Chair
Henry though perhaps having one cutter, one sprayer and several haulers to each team would help make the
removal process more efficient. Ms. Olson stated that overall, the event was a big success and we had a good
turnout. The group accomplished a lot of work in the 3-4 hour event.
6. PTRC STRATEGIES PLAN—FUNDING DISCUSSION
Disc Golf Course
Ms. Olson stated that she spoke with Mr. Bill Ashton regarding a disc golf course. Mr. Ashton has stated that
he could design a nine-hole disc golf course at Ingerson Park. The golf course would be low maintenance.
The post and bucket could be removed and the holes plugged during the winter. Ms. Olson further stated that
Mr. Ashton estimated that the cost for a nine-hole course, including a course layout and equipment, would be
about$5,000 and a little more for the consultation fee. Also, once the course was set up,Mr. Ashton would do
a lot of the marketing to publicize the disc golf course. The PTRC has allocated$7,500 for this project within
the Strategies.
Committee members questioned if there would be adequate parking at Ingerson Park to accommodate the
potential increased generated by golf course users.
Chair Henry requested that Mr. Ashton be invited to attend the next PTRC meeting to provide the committee
with more information.
Bocce Golf Course
Ms. Olson stated that if the PTRC wanted to proceed with a bocce golf course, an official proposal should be
brought to the City Council for approval. Committee Member Baumann agreed to start working on a proposal.
Trails
Ms. Olson provided an update on the Snelling Regional Trail from Highway 51 down to County Road E on the
north. The quote ($800,000) in the CIP was an error. Ms. Olson handed out a breakdown of the railroad
sleeve and the segments, including cost for each. The entire segment from highway 51 to County Road 96,
including the railroad sleeve, was estimated to cost $833,400, if the City decided to do concrete and $661,000
for bituminous. Ms. Olson stated that the City is looking at the possibility of doing the entire trail at one time.
The trail was proposed to be done in 2010, also when the road project was proposed to be done because there
were some funding possibilities for the trail. Another factor that would affect this would be if the railroad
bridge was done at that time. Currently, the railroad bridge was in the CIP for 2007.
Lake Johanna Boulevard
Ms. Olson recently asked about partnerships and regional funding possibilities with Mr. Greg Mack, Ramsey
County, and he did not see any possibilities. This project was included in Ramsey County's master plan, but is
currently not a very high priority. Ms. Olson stated that there was some talk about the City taking back this
road,but she didn't think this was close to actually happening yet.
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Committee Member Wheeler asked how this project could be moved up in priority for Ramsey County. Ms.
Olson stated that perhaps Committee Member Straumann could talk to Ramsey County or perhaps it may be
helpful to have someone attend a Ramsey County meeting.
Committee Member Wheeler stated that she recalled that Mr. Mack said that the right of way was pretty wide
in that area. Ms. Olson replied that there were some good right of way areas, but there were also some
challenging restrictions. Ms. Olson was not sure if those challenges had an affect on where this project was
place on their priority list.
Traffic Signals at County Road E and Old Snelling
Ms. Olson stated that she spoke with Mr. Dan Soler, Ramsey County Traffic Engineer, about the possibility of
putting in a traffic signal at the Lindeys intersection. Mr. Soler did not recall ever having a justification study
done for that area. Mr. Soler thought that it was something the County could do and it would be of no cost to
the City.
MOTION: Committee Chair Zilmer motioned, seconded by Committee Member Lanny Baumann to
request that the City Council order a traffic study for the Lindeys intersection. The motion
carried unanimously.
Mayor Elect Harpstead stated that County Road F was paved on the New Brighton side all the way across the
bridge and it stopped at the Arden Hills portion. With the busing changes in the Mounds View School District,
anyone within two miles walks to school and therefore when pedestrians get to the Arden Hills portion of the
road,they end up walking in the street. Ms. Olson stated that over seven years ago that particular trail segment
was voted down by the Council.
Chair Henry stated that a portion of this would be addressed with the extension of the Elmer L. Andersen trail
through Tony Schmidt,to the high school,and further into Long Lake Regional Park.
Round Lake Update
Ms. Olson stated that she included an email she received from Mr. Mike Fix. There are a lot of files to go
through on Round Lake. The email from Mr.Fix stated that the potential to human health and the environment
were associated with the contamination in the sediment below the water.
Regarding the trail along Round Lake, Ms. Olson stated that Knott Companies was the one company that was
holding out and perhaps discussions could be opened with them again. She further stated that they had security
and vandalism concerns and did not want people walking behind their building. According to Jim Perron,
Public Water Superintendent, the City had a sewer easement in that area. Mr. Hoag stated that it would be a
risk to get the vactor and jetter to that area during winter conditions. An avenue that he wanted to explore was
to pave that segment for use as a roadway for sewer needs.
7. REVISION OF STRATEGIES
A. Perry Park Trail Connection from Underpass
Staff went out to identify the best route from Perry Park for the application for the DNR Local Trail
Connection Grant. Ms. Olson stated that the two trail options, where the Mounds View students jog and
behind the Little Lakes Little League field,both come with their own challenges and are not doable for ADA,
unless we spend a lot of money for retaining walls and removal of oak trees. When Ms. Olson and the
engineer went out,they located an area that was naturally flatter and the vegetation that would be lost would be
mainly buckthorn, and box elder trees. A trail placed in this area would be come up behind field#2. It would
wind through the area, but we would be able to break down some of the berm and make the trail ADA
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compliant. The trail would then connect with the existing paved trail by the pavilion. While not exactly what
we originally wanted, we could put in a nice trail in this area. The new estimate is $38,000 and $16,747.50
would be reimbursable through the DNR Local Trail Connection Program Grant. This application was
approved by the City Council at their November 13th meeting. Ms. Olson will go back to the Council in
February with a Resolution to include with this grant application.
Chair Henry stated presumably the trail surface would be blacktop. Are there concerns regarding run off on a
black top path this close to a wet land? Would we be better off with a wood chip trail? Ms. Olson stated that
we would not be able to do a wood chip trail because of ADA compliance.
B. Safe Routes to School Trail
Ms. Olson handed out a preliminary map of the area that is being considered for the Safe Routes to School
Program. This program was designed to have a quick turnaround. The application form was released this past
Friday and applications are due January 31, 2007. The City will be partnering with Ramsey County.
Chair Henry stated that in his experience,even reasonably well maintained black top trails got icy in the winter
and wood chip trails, even if not maintained did not get as icy. Given that kids went to school in the winter,he
asked if it would not be reasonable to think that these could stay wood chipped. Ms. Olson stated that what
was to be done to the trails in green depended on the cost. However, all trails that utilize this grant funding,
must be ADA accessible and wood chip trails would not be compliant. Also,the more links we have,the more
favorably our grant would be look upon. The maximum grant amount was $175,000, but and it is 100 percent
reimbursable
Chair Henry suggested that the black top portion be the furthest part west from County Road E2.
In July of 2006, MnDOT (Safe Routes to School Program) received 76 applications and they approved 15
applications. There are no guarantees the City will be successful with the application,but we will have another
opportunity to apply in August if we are not selected this time.
MOTION: Committee Member Straumann motioned, seconded by Committee Member Zilmer to approve
the revised strategies. The motion carried unanimously.
8. NAMING OF GOVERNOR ELMER L.ANDERSEN TRAIL SEGMENT
Chair Henry presented a resolution that he and Committee Member Williams drafted. He asked the committee
to review the resolution and offer comments/suggestions for changes.
Committee Member Wheeler commented that"an initiative that Governor Andersen would have supported"be
rephrased to avoid supposing what someone would have wanted or done. Council Liaison suggested
rephrasing it to read"an initiative that is consistent with Governor Andersen's stated interest".
MOTION: Committee Member Baumann motioned, seconded by Committee Member McClung, to
recommend the resolution be adopted by City Council. The motion carried unanimously.
9. GOODPOINTE TRAIL MAINTENANE PROPOSAL
Ms. Olson stated that there was some interest in possibly doing a Goodpointe trail evaluation to rate our
existing trails to help prioritize what maintenance needed to be done. This evaluation would rate our trails,
similar to how streets were rated for pavement management projects.
Chair Henry asked how long this kind of evaluation had been done and if people who have used it found it
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valuable. Ms. Olson replied that this came from the Roseville engineer. As for the company, Goodpointe had
a history of doing pavement management projects and were now moving into evaluating bituminous trails.
Mr. Hoag stated that there were a number of sources out there who did evaluations. Based on some of the
preliminary looking that he has done, it was highly advisable that the City used the same vendor it did for
streets. It would be more cost effective since the software was compatible. Mr. Hoag stated that Goodpointe
was the current street vendor. The City piggy backed on Roseville's cost and we therefore were getting the
services at a reduced cost.
The Committee was at consensus to leave the final decision on this up to staff.
10. 2007 COMMITTEE MEMBERSHIP RENEWAL AND DRAFT EXPECTATIONS
Chair Henry asked that those members who were not interested in continuing their committee membership for
2008 to call or email him sometime in the next week.
Ms. Olson stated that committee appointments would be made at the first meeting in January.
Chair Henry stated at the committee summit meeting, there was a discussion regarding clarifying, at the
committee level, what was expected from each other. Chair Henry created a draft expectation and it was his
intent to discuss it, adopt it in some way and then be able to use it to inform potential committee members of
the committee purpose and direction.
Ms. Olson stated that staff believes that the Parks and Recreation Committee was formed by a Resolution and
not put into Ordinance. We may need to change that. Chair Henry suggested that the members take the
expectations home and come prepared for the next meeting to discuss.
11. NEXT MEETING: TUESDAY,DECEMBER 19TH
Chair Henry stated that the next meeting was December 19th
Ms. Olson stated that a Town Hall Meeting was scheduled on January 16, 2007; the night of our regularly
scheduled meeting therefore it would be best to move our January meeting to January 9th or January 23rd. Ms.
Olson recommended that the January meeting be moved to January 9th, because she was going to be out of
town on January 23rd
12. ADJOURN
MOTION: Committee Member Straumann moved and Committee Member Baumann seconded a motion
to adjourn the meeting at 8:48 p.m.
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CITY OF ARDEN HILLS
PARKS,TRAILS,AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING
TUESDAY,DECEMBER 19,2006; 7:00 P.M.
ARDEN HILLS CITY HALL
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Henry called the December 19,2006 meeting of the Parks,Trails and Recreation Committee to
order at 7:03 p.m.
'MEMBERS PRESENT: Committee Chair Bill Henry, Committee Members Lanny Baumann, Jim
Crassweller,Rich Straumann,Roger Williams, Steve Zilmer, and Dave McClung.
OTHERS PRESENT: Michelle Olson,Park and Recreation Manager; Greg Hoag,Public Works
Director; Gregg Larson, City Council Liaison; Bill Ashton,Disc Golf Course Consultant, Chuck Kachel,
Resident.
MEMBERS NOT PRESENT: Committee Member Cindy Wheeler.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
MOTION: Committee Chair Henry motioned, seconded by Committee Member Zilmer to approve
the agenda. The motion carried unanimously.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
The committee discussed multiple changes to the November meeting minutes and asked that staff bring it
back with these changes for approval at the next meeting. The level of detail in meeting minutes was also
discussed. The committee requested that meeting minutes be kept brief.
3. DISC GOLF COURSE PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION—BILL ASHTON
Mr. Ashton gave a presentation on disc golf. Mr. Ashton stated that to accommodate the sliding hill,
baskets would go into a ground sweep. It would be about a two foot sleeve that would go in the ground
and the basket would slide in. It would be locked with a padlock, allowing for the baskets to be removed
and the sleeve capped for the winter. The sleeves would be cemented in the ground and therefore kept in
the ground year round.
In regards to liability concerns,Mr. Ashton stated that he has never encountered anyone he knew who has
gotten hurt playing the sport in the 30 years he has played
MOTION Committee Member Crassweller motioned, seconded by Committee Member Straumann
to recommend to the City Council the development of a frisbee golf course of some kind
at Ingerson Park, recognizing that this was a process and that funds in the park fund be
used to support the development. The motion carried 6-0, Committee Member McClung
abstained.
Mr. Hoag stated that one of his concerns regarding a disc golf course was that it would be more of a
regional sell. He had reservations about installing a disc golf course where there was not adequate
parking and that could potentially increased traffic on neighborhood streets.
Ms. Olson stated her concern was that the committee needed to come up with a financial plan to fund
their strategies. Funding options were not yet discussed at the Committee level and then also needed to
be discussed with the Council.
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4. COUNCIL UPDATE-
• The Truth in Taxation Hearing was held
• The 2007 Budget was approved with a six percent levy increase.
• The naming of the Elmer Andersen Trail was approved.
• The Council reviewed the PTRC request for a traffic study at County Road E and Old Snelling.
• The site plan was approved for 3433 Lake Johanna Boulevard.
• There would be a Council appointed TCAAP Advisory Committee.
5. PARKS,TRAILS,AND RECREATION UPDATE
Mr. Hoag provided the committee with the following update:
• Public Works staff started flooding rinks again overnight Sunday. Warmer weather was
forecasted for the next several days;therefore staff anticipated that rinks probably would not open
until Tuesday. Installation of the portable building at Valentine Park was completed.
• The Public Works crew responded to a couple of water main breaks in the last week.
Ms. Olson provided the committee with the following update:
• Ms. Olson was working on the Safe Routes to School Grant and the DNR Grant.
• The Friends of the Park tree sale was currently going on. Interested individuals should get orders
in soon.
• Ms. Olson stated that the application for the County Road E bridge was submitted in October.
The City should receive notification early in the year,possibly February.
6. PTRC STRATEGIES PLAN—FUNDING DISCUSSION
Ms. Olson stated that the committee needed to come up with funding strategies that could be brought to
the Council. The special park fund has dwindled and with limited developable land, there would not be
much in park dedication fees to add to the fund. The Committee, after having developed its vision and
strategies discussed looking at funding options. Ms. Olson stated that she believed the Council wanted to
hear how the committee intended to fund their strategies. The purpose of the funding discussion with the
Council was to work with the Council to identify sources to increase funding, perhaps in the form of
grants, donations,etc.
Council Liaison Larson suggested that perhaps the committee could inquire about funding options with
surrounding cities.
Chair Henry requested that the funding discussion be brought to the February Council work session.
Ms. Olson stated that the City received notice of a statue change that restricted the use of charitable
gambling funds for parks and recreation. Currently, parks and recreation received 60% of gambling
funds,which translated into$36,000 last year.
MOTION Committee Member Williams motioned, seconded by Committee Member Crassweller to
expand the Ehlers engagement to include consideration of the sources for future parks,
trails and recreation services. Motion carried 6-0, Committee Member McClung
abstained.
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7. COMMITTEE EXPECTATIONS
Chair Henry requested that the committee take a look at the attached proposed expectations and be
prepared for a discussion at a future meeting.
8. NAMING OF GOVERNOR ELMER L.ANDERSEN TRAIL SEGMENT
Ms. Olson stated that$25,000 was budgeted for trail signage in 2008.
Chair Henry suggested having one set of guidelines for trail signs in the City. However, it would not
pertain to the Governor Elmer L. Andersen trail sign because the committee wanted to encourage Ramsey
County and other governmental entities to be involved with the trail. It was suggested that the Committee
look at Hennepin and Ramsey County signs for ideas for the Governor Elmer L. Andersen Trail. Also, to
revisit having the person who designed the City park signs to design signs for all other city trails. Ms.
Olson would contact the designer and could probably bring this back in March, depending on the
designer's schedule.
9. TONY SCHMIDT REGIONAL PARK MASTER PLAN DRAFT UPDATE
Ms. Olson would contact Mr. Greg Mack, Ramsey County, to find out what was expected of the
Committee in regards to this master plan draft; if the committee needed to review the plan and then make
a recommendation to the Council. It was asked that Ms. Olson also request for an electronic copy of the
draft.
10. NEXT MEETING DATE
The next PTRC meeting was scheduled for January 9, 2007. Committee Member Baumann would send
an electronic version of the bocce golf proposal to Ms. Olson to be included in the next agenda packet.
Ms. Olson stated that a few benches needed to be added. The City has an inventory of benches and
typically added to it yearly, as needed. In the past, benches have occasionally come up as Eagle Scout
projects. With the proposed installation of a bocce golf course, it was suggested that benches be put at
Ingerson Park.
11. TOWN HALL MEETING
The Town Hall Meeting was on scheduled for January 16, 2007 from 6:00 p.m. to about 8:30. The City
has expressed interest for the PTRC to have a table at the event.
12. AJOURN
MOTION: Committee Member Straumann moved and Committee Member Crassweller seconded a
motion to adjourn the meeting at 9:25 p.m.
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PTRC 2007 Schedule
Meeting dates, times and locations are subject to change.
Tuesday January 9 7:00 P.M. CANCELED
Tuesday January 16 6:00 P.M. Town Hall Meeting
Upper Conference Room,
Thursday *February 22 7:00 P.M. Arden Hills City Hall
Upper Conference Room,
Tuesday March 20 7:00 P.M. Arden Hills City Hall
Upper Conference Room,
Tuesday April 17 7:00 P.M. Arden Hills City Hall
Upper Conference Room,
Tuesday May 15 7:00 P.M. Arden Hills City Hall
Upper Conference Room,
Tuesday June 19 7:00 P.M. Arden Hills City Hall
Joint PTRC/Planning Meeting
Tuesday July 17 7:00 P.M. Site TBD
Tuesday August 21 NO MEETING
Upper Conference Room,
Tuesday September 18 7:00 P.M. Arden Hills City Hall
Upper Conference Room,
Tuesday October 16 7:00 P.M. Arden Hills City Hall
Upper Conference Room,
Tuesday November 20 7:00 P.M. Arden Hills City Hall
Upper Conference Room,
Tuesday December 18 7:00 P.M. Arden Hills City Hall
*Meeting moved to Thursday due to City Council Work Session
2007 Park Funding Survey
SURVEY QUESTION: Our Parks, Recreation and Trails Committee is studying
potential funding alternatives. They have approved strategies which include a number of
park improvements. As a City, we also have to plan for the costs of on-going
maintenance. I am aware of many funding sources used by cities for parks facilities,
infrastructure, improvements, and maintenance. However, staff would like to develop a
comprehensive list of options that the Committee can study.
Some obvious ideas are to increase your general levy and use park dedication fees. We
are interested in finding out what other sources cities may be using to fund parks,
recreation, and trails.
1. Kandis Hanson @ the City of Mound
We have partnered with the DNR for the development of boat ramps and fishing piers in
some or our parks bordering water. They also partnered with Wayzata, I think, on a
marina project abutting their city. Needs to be on bodies of water where they have
jurisdiction. _
2. Jim Peterson @ Blaine
In 2000,the voters of Blaine did approve a 3.5 million referendum, but it was for the
purchase of land for open space. Our park system is funded in two ways:
1. Park dedication is required from all residential, commercial and industrial
development. This allows us to acquire and build new parks and provide new facilities in
our community parks and playfields,but does not allow us to use it for operation and
maintenance.
2. The City annual general fund provides funding for park maintained and operation. We
all know however this is a limited fund and a budgeting struggle each year.
Maybe cities should get their legislators to make cities eligible for funding from Met
Council's appropriation for regional parks?
3. Aaron Parrish @ Crookston
As a community, we have done a few creative things. We recently built eight new tennis
courts and three athletic fields in partnership with our local school district. We provided
the upfront financing for the project. To repay the investment,we have a lease with the
School District that will recapitalize the fund over a ten year period of time. This allowed
the School District to utilize their lease levy authority.
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Aaron Parrish @ Crookston—continued—
Their lease levy allows them to increase property taxes to generate funds to repay the
lease. From our perspective, since the school district's property tax base is significantly
larger than ours, it was a more desirable approach.
The only downside is there is some financial exposure to the City in the event the school
district would not annually renew the lease (school districts can only lease a year at a
time). As a result, a degree of trust was required on our part. We also mitigated our
exposure by requiring the school district to deed the property where the improvements
were made to the City. This was required to do the lease levy as well. In the event of non-
payment of the lease,we still have the land. Since it is part of their High School complex,
we are pretty confidant they will renew the lease annually.
The only other area we are exploring is the implementation of a local option sales tax to
finance a new arena complex. Our current facilities need to be relocated as part of a flood
control project we are working on. Many communities have done the local option sales
tax for general park improvements,trials etc. . . . If you are looking at trail connections,
MNDOT has their safe routes to schools program. If there are linkages to Valentine
elementary that are being explored, that may be something to look at.
4. Eric A. Johnson @ Oak Park Heights
You can't use park dedication for maintenance, (tired- darn attorneys) only capital imp. I
don't know the Stat. number.
We have discussed: Park Shelter rental fees and some Trail Pass Concepts, but none have
been approved.
5. Joel Hanson @ Little Canada
We have been using our 10% gaming funds to help in this area.
6. Heidi Nelson @ Ramsey
Open Space/Parks referendum....we did one in Blaine when I was there if you want to
talk about what we did.
7. Juli Johnson @ Eagan
Attached is a copy of a report our parks commission completed a few years ago regarding
this subject that you may find helpful. At this time, we are primarily relying on general
levy and park dedication fees for funding,but are continuing to look at alternative
resources for the future.
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8. Terry Schwerm @ Shoreview
We place a little toll booth at the entrance to each one of our parks and charge kids 25
cents each time they enter the park. It raised$6.8 million dollars last year. Actually, we
just fund our park maintenance out of our general fund (tax dollars),mew park
development out of our Capital Improvement Fund(combination of funding sources) and
replacement items from our General Fixed Asset Revolving Fund(primarily tax dollars).
The City did a comprehensive park and trail development referendum in 1988 that passed
nearly 2 to ,but would probably be difficult to pass today with the changing
demographics in the community.
9. Mark Nagel @ Eldo New Market
We are considering contracts with private companies to provide recreation
services...example: Skateboard camp—we get 20% of the registration fees. Sales of ad
space have also on outdoor rinks have also helped. Let us know what you find out.
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GIE11 OE eaaaA MEMO
To: Ken Vraa, Director of Parks and Recreation
CC: Paul Olson, Superintendent of Parks
FROM: Beth A. Wielde, Parks Research and Special Projects
DATE: October 20, 2003
RE: APrC Findings-Alternative Funding Study
COUNCIL CHARGE
In recognition that funding through parks and trail dedication would not sustain the parks
system indefinitely, Council charged the Advisory Parks Commission(APrC) with identifying
alternative revenue streams for the Park Site Fund. In June of 2002, the APrC began a series of
workshops to brainstorm ideas and determine which of these ideas would bring a continuous
stream of funds to support parks projects.
METHODOLOGY
The APrC received the findings of a survey conducted nationwide to see what methods other
communities with high buildout rates used to fund their parks projects. Survey results indicated
that aside from user fees, General Fund contributions, and bonds, the 33 respondents had no
long-range planning strategy for sustaining revenue sources. It became clear that Eagan was
pioneering a study of this sort. The survey was also notable for the low response rate. 117
surveys had been distributed, 48 in Minnesota, 117 nationwide. The low response rate may
indicate that people felt the survey asking about creative funding methods just didn't apply to
them.
Learning of the disappointing results of the survey, the APrC workshop participants
brainstormed any idea that could possibly generate revenue for the Park Site Fund. Out of this
first pool of ideas, the APrC identified 10 that they wanted to discuss further. These items
were:
• Park tax • Park renewal/replacement fee on
• Volunteer"Check Off'on utility water bills
bills • Charitable gambling proceeds
• Volunteerism • Increase park dedication fees
• Adopt-A-Park programs • Charge the Public Works
• Tax levy funds department for utility easements in
• Mandatory water utility"round up" parks
Some of the ideas were discussed and were determined as not feasible as a sustainable revenue
source. The APrC then challenged staff to create projections of potential revenue from the
sources that seemed to be sustainable. Investigation into the items that were considered
"potential"revenue sources found that each idea, while having merit, had some inherent
problems:
• Park tax: Impose a tax from sales of goods such as gasoline or similar. Since the APrC
has no authority to impose a tax, this idea was immediately deemed"not feasible."
• Volunteer"Check Off' on utility bills: When checking with another city who has
implemented this program, it was clear that this does not generate substantial revenue.
Roseville says that this system has generated"a few thousand dollars" a year and about
20%participation for their parks system. The APrC determined that this, along with
administrative costs of tracking such a system, would not sustain CIP projects.
• Tax levy funds: While dedicating a portion of the tax levy is desirable, concern was
brought up about the distribution of funds, and why parks CIP projects should be funded
from the General Fund. Because of levy limits,this would mean a decrease in funding
available to fund current General Fund programs.
• Mandatory water utility "round up": When projected income was tallied, initial
income was determined not to support a one-year CIP project list. With additional
administrative costs to handle the program, it was determined that the cost far
outweighed the benefit, and the idea was determined as "not feasible"as a sustainable
revenue source. There was also an equity issue, since the amount paid per resident
would be different for each person; if rounded to the next dollar, a person with a$40.56
water bill would pay$.44, while someone with a$40.98 water bill would only pay$.02.
• Park renewal/replacement fee on water bills: While this idea would have generated a
reasonable amount of revenue to sustain the CIP and been a reliable, sustainable revenue
source, City Attorney Bob Bauer determined this idea had no legal basis to proceed.
Thus the legality of the idea determined it to be"not feasible." This analysis meets
Council's request to eliminate options that are not legally feasible. A confidential
memo from the City Attorney's office reiterates this point,that legally this is not a
feasible option.
• Charitable gambling proceeds: State statute allows municipalities to receive a 10%
contribution from charitable gambling operations within their community. While this
system would generate some funds, the total amount would not be enough annually to
sustain more than one or two projects on one year's CIP list. Income would potentially
range from$24,000 to $40,000 each year, if gambling remains steady. Decline in legal
gambling would decrease the amount of income. This idea was determined to not
generate enough revenue to be considered a sustainable revenue source.
• Increase park dedication fees: This idea will, in fact, generate revenue. It has been
the primary revenue source for decades, sustaining CIP projects. Each year, fees are
adjusted/increased to reflect market value of land. However, this source of revenue
will decrease and eventually cease as land is developed and the City begins its
"maintenance and replacement" mode. This source may not be reliable in the near(10-
20 year) future to sustain CIP projects.
• Charge the Public Works department for utility easements in parks: There are
many utility easements located on park property. The thought behind this option was to
attach a fee to the land used for utility easements,to be charged to the Public Works
department. There was concern, however, about using this as an income source; first,
the Parks Department is not charged for utilities to the parks. This would detract from
the earnings from this option.
These findings were reported to Council at their workshop meeting on March 25, 2003.
Council requested that additional information be investigated, such as:
• Volunteerism: While volunteerism definitely benefits parks systems and can save
some labor costs, it is not a revenue generator. Volunteers typically volunteer for one-
time projects for service groups. Volunteers who
commit regular service are not allowed to use the Figure 1:Adopt k Considered a
Sustainable Revenue Source
heavy equipment such as groomers or mowers due
to potential liability problems. A survey was
conducted to inquire about volunteerism and i
adopt-a-park income in other Minnesota
communities. 93% of the 39 respondents said that No
volunteers produced no revenue for their parks
system. This idea was determined as "not
feasible" as a long-term revenue source.
• adopt-A-Park programs: Respondents to the Figure 2:Adopt-a-park Duties
volunteerism and adopt-a-park survey indicated
:financial
that Adopt-a-Park programs do not generate s°io other
revenue for the department (see Figure 1), and 0
certainlynot enough to sustain CIP arks projects Financial and
g p p J maintenance ' Heavy
at Eagan's level. Figure 2 shows that 68%of 27% Maintenance
respondents indicate that their Adopt-a-Park 0%
program was a"light maintenance only"program
where there is no fee charged for participation.
This idea was deemed"not sustainable as a
revenue source."
• Lottery Grants: Staff investigated the process by
which lottery funds are distributed. State lottery funds are distributed to the Legislative
Commission on Minnesota Resources(LCMR),who allots it for grant funding. The
City of Eagan has received LCMR-allotted funds through the Minnesota Department of
Natural Resources in the form of grant funds. According to the LCMR, individual
municipalities are not eligible to apply directly for State Lottery funding.
• Partnership Opportunities: Eagan Parks and Recreation has historically welcomed
sponsorship and partnership opportunities. In recent years, a sponsorship policy has
been developed to guide the City on its dealings with external sponsors. The APrC is
currently working on a donor recognition policy that will help with those opportunities.
While partnerships are always welcome and a valuable part of the Parks system, they
tend to be project or amenity specific rather than supportive of general parks operations
or CIP lists. As such, they are typically not perceived as a revenue stream to fund CIP
projects.
COUNCIL CHARGE: SET GOALS FOR FUTURE FUNDING INITIATIVES AND DETERMINE FUNDING
SOURCES FOR SPECIFIC GOALS
The APrC met in September of 2003 to discuss future steps to supporting UP funds. They
reviewed the annual cost of maintaining the parks system as-is, with no new development and
no additional amenities. They determined that to maintain the status quo of the parks system_, it
seemed reasonable to depreciate current Park Site Fund assets at $245,000 per year.
Hypothetically, if no additional funds were added, the Park Site Fund would run out in 12 years
just on holding the current park system, replacing depreciated amenities and regular
replacements such as playground equipment, tennis courts, etc. Park Site Funds are used for
CIP park development projects only, and by statute are not to be used in the general
maintenance of a park or its amenities.
Of course, there will likely be some income from parks dedication, so the estimated 12 years
may be conservative. On the other hand,maintaining the status quo has not been the only
function of the Park Site Fund. It is also used for acquisition,park development, Master
Planning,new amenities, and the like. The status quo of expenditure actually reduces the 12-
year estimate for depletion of existing Park Site Fund. Therefore, as revenue from parks and
trails dedication decreases, it becomes urgent that a solid, identifiable source of revenue be
identified before Park Site Funds can not support a conservative CIP. The APrC came up with
three recommendations for Council to consider.
RECOMMENDATIONS
After over a year of research, workshops, discussion, and analysis, the Advisory Parks
Commission has compiled its findings pertaining to alternative funding streams for City of
Eagan parks.
• Short-term: Discuss the logistics of a referendum to be used for acquisition and
development projects.
Also, use the existing park site fund for renewal/replacement, at approximately
$245,000 per annum.
• Long-term: Consider raising the levy, within the boundaries set by the state legislature.
Consider a dedicated fund for renewal, development, and purchase of park amenities.
• Continuous: Grants,donorships,and sponsorships will be pursued whenever possible.
Grant funds tend to be project-specific and can not be considered a replacement to a
continuous funding stream,but they are a very welcome supplement.
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Commission and Committee:
Committee Name: Parks Trails and Recreation Committee 'RC
Established by Arden Hills City Council:
General Purpose for Committees and Task Forces:
The overall purpose for committees and task forces are to improve the value of the Arden
Hills citizens' property, increase the desirability of Arden Hills as a place to live or work,
and to enhance/protect the health and well-being of the citizens.
While the City Council and City Staff have the sole responsibility for all activities with in
the city of Arden Hills,from time-to-time they find it desirable,advantageous and
necessary to bring together residents of Arden Mills in order to broaden and enrich the
discussion around possible decisions. As an example,the City Council's ability to debate
and consider far-ranging alternatives is stifled by the risk that the mere discussion of
alternatives will engender them with undeserved merit. In addition,Arden Hills will
always seek to hire the most qual.i fied and capable employees,but in doing so we will
frequently hire staff that is not intimately connected to the Arden Hills neighborhoods.
Therefore it is critical that the City create a mechanism where the City Staff can get
unfettered and unbiased reaction to their novel thoughts and ideas.
The Commission,Committee and Task Forces are established to broaden and enrich the
content that will ultimately be enacted or authorized by the elected City Council.
Mission/Purpose:
Parks,trails and recreation in Arden Hills enhance the health and well-being of the
residents/guest,improve the value of citizens' property,and increase the desirability of the city as a place to live or work. The PTRC represents the interests of Arden Hills'
citizens in leading the ongoing development,improvement and maintenance of those
resources. The PTRC members gather and consider community input and recommends to
the City Council actions that support those interests;monitors use of and improvements
in parks,trails and recreation;and collaborates with other city committees and
commissions to improve park.%and trails.
Expected outcomes:
Specific Obiectiv_es:
Longer Term Objectives:
1)Explore and recommend financing methods that enable the parks and trail system to
transition from the existing Park Dedication Fees to appropriate ongoing funding sources.
2)Develop Parks and Trails Plan for TCAAP
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2)participation of rrRC members is key to their contribution:
a)Members should be present at and involved in meetings of the committee
b)Members should be actively engaged in discussing issues,sharing perspectives
and raising questions that arc essential elements of"good decision-making'.
c)Effective participation derives from continually learning about Arden Hills'
parks,trails and recreation and the physical and political environments in which
they exist.This learning process includes formal opportunities afforded by PTRC,
as well as informal opportunities that occur in the course each member's activity.
d)As a guideline,members should expect to spend approximately 6 to 8 hours per
month in their work on the PTRC committee.
3)The PTRC is a group of peers—no single member has more standing or power than
another.
4)Respect for the opinions of other members,and for those with wbom the PTRC
interacts,is a hallmark of the committee's work. Members seek clarity in presenting their
views,and represent a sense of stewardship in all that they do.
5) PTRC members engage in continual self-assessment of their performance on the
committee. As needs arise,they seek education,input and the skills necessary to their
performance.
6)The PTRC provides opportunity for the education of its members,both as a part of
committee meetings,and through access to outside educational events. Members are
expected to actively participate in these opportunities.
2)Some of the PTRC's work involves subjective judgment,where there is not enough
data to make the decisions that are necessary. Members who are most successful in these
decisions are those who are aware of the values in their neighborhood,willing to engage
in the discussion of values,and respectful of those values held by others that might differ
from their own.
8)By design the PTRC is composed of individuals with diverse perspectives and
experience. The committee benefits from these contrasts that this diversity engenders
and seeks to improve the decisions in makes and actions it takes by understanding the
differences and resolving disputes that arise during discussion of issues and plans.
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2) APPROVAL OF AGENDA
3) APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF JANUARY 9, 2007
4) 2007 DEPARTMENT WORK PROGRAM
5) 2007 COMMISSION WORK PROGRAM
6) MEETING ATTENDANCE
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The regular meeting of the Ramsey County Parks and Recreation Commission was called to order by Chair
Straumann at 6:00 p.m., at the Ramsey County Parks and Recreation Department, 2015 North Van Dyke
Street, Maplewood, Minnesota.
Members Present: Deb Falkowski, Gale Pederson, Candace Petersen, Richard Straumann, Elyssa
Weber
Members Absent: Terry Huntrods, Phil Jenni, Jonathon Kusa
Staff Present: Greg Mack and Larry Holmberg
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Chair Straumann asked for a motion to approve the agenda. Ms. Falkowski moved, seconded by Ms.
Peterson that the agenda be approved. Motion carried.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Chair Straumann asked for a motion to approve the minutes of the December 12, 2006 meeting. Ms.
Falkowski moved,seconded by Ms. Pederson, that the minutes of the December 12, 2006 meeting be
approved as mailed. Motion carried.
ELECTION OF OFFICERS
Ms. Pederson nominated Mr. Straumann for Chair, seconded by Ms. Petersen. Hearing no additional
nominations, Ms. Pederson moved, seconded by Ms. Pedersen, that nominations be closed and a
unanimous ballot be cast for Mr. Straumann as Chair. Motion carried.
Ms. Falkowski nominated Ms. Pederson, seconded by Ms. Weber, to serve as Vice Chair. Hearing no
additional nominations, Mr. Falkowski moved, seconded by Ms. Weber, that nominations be closed a
unanimous ballot be cast for Ms. Pederson as Vice Chair. Motion carried.
APPROVAL OF BY-LAWS FOR 2007
Chair Straumann asked for a motion to approve the by-laws for 2007. Ms. Pederson moved, seconded by
Ms. Falkowski, that the by-laws be approved for 2007. Motion carried.
REVIEW OF 2006 PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION WORK PROGRAM ACCOMPLISHMENTS
2006 OBJECTIVES
Development Projects requiring further plan formulation and public involvement
♦ Review site and building plans for Lake Josephine County Park. COMPLETED
♦ Review plans for trails within the Twin Cities Army Ammunitions Plant. COMPLETED
♦ Review exhibit plan and site plan for Tamarack Nature Center. ONGOING
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♦ Review plans for trail underpasses at Tony Schmidt Regional Park. COMPLETED
♦ Review plans for redevelopment of Keller Regional Park. COMPLETED; RESTROOM BUILDINGS
UNDER CONSTRUCTION
♦ Review plans for redevelopment of Turtle Lake County Park. REVIEW COMPLETED, BUT
REDEVELOPMENT NOT FUNDED
♦ Review plans for the entry sign and shelter at Sucker Lake. COMPLETED
Natural Resources Management
♦ Review and make recommendations on natural resources management programs at various county
and regional park areas. COMPLETED AS PART OF SYSTEM PLAN
♦ Review findings of the annual deer herd census and management recommendations in accordance
with the Cooperative Deer Management Plan. COMPLETED
Special Projects
Review the Master Plan for Tony Schmidt Regional Park. REVIEW COMPLETED
Recommend approval of the updated system plan for the Parks and Recreation Department.
COMPLETED
♦ Maintain communication with the County Board on critical issues pertaining to parks and recreation
services. ONGOING; PRESENTED STATE OF THE PARKS REPORT TO THE COUNTY BOARD
♦ Establish closer working relationships with municipal parks and recreation commissions, citizen
advocacy groups (e.g. Friends of the St. Paul and Ramsey County Parks and Trails), and elected
officials. ONGOING
♦ Review master plan amendments to incorporate the Snail Lake Marsh area into the Highway 96
Regional Trail. CARRY FORWARD
♦ Review and comment on plans that may be formulated by the Minnesota Amateur Sports
Commission for use of the warehouse building location within the Rice Creek North Regional Trail
CARRY FORWARD
♦ Work with cross-country ski advocates to assess the feasibility of developing and operating a
snowmaking system for cross-country skiing and tubing at Battle Creek Regional Park. FEASIBILITY
STUDY UNDERWAY
♦ Participate in the Active Living Ramsey County Program. ONGOING
KELLER GOLF COURSE PROPOSAL
The Keller Golf Course and Clubhouse need substantial updating. The current Clubhouse is an
older facility that has been adapted over the years but is undersized and unable to compete with
other local golf courses. The current kitchen is inadequate for catering and there is inadequate
seating capacity for larger groups and tournament activities. The vision for a new clubhouse would
be 22,000 square feet in size, seating for 350, a separate snack bar area, ability to hold concurrent
events and increased parking capacity. The estimated cost for this type of clubhouse is $7 million.
Golf course improvements are estimated at $3 million. The funding is proposed to be phased over
two years: Consulting fees (Phase 1) are estimated at $650,000. It is likely that the golf course
would be closed during construction which would result in lost revenue.
Ms. Falkowski moved, seconded by Ms. Petersen, that the Commission recommends
support for the Keller Golf Course/Clubhouse redevelopment proposal. Motion carried.
PROPOSED ENCROACHMENT ORDINANCE
lohn Moriarty was present at this meeting to discuss the proposed encroachment ordinance. Parks and
-Recreation currently follows a policy outlined in a 1995 resolution when dealing with encroachment issues.
The Parks and Recreation Department discussed encroachment issues with the County Board in September
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2006. The Board reaffirmed the existing policy and suggested strengthening the approaches to education,
notification and enforcement. The Commission reviewed the education and notification approaches and a
proposed amendment to the Ordinance that specifically addresses encroachments.
Ms. Pederson moved, seconded by Ms. Petersen, to recommend support for the following proposed
ordinance amendment on encroachments:
CHAPTER III
SECTION Y— ENCROACHMENTS
It shall be unlawful for any person to encroach on park property with such items as
fences, gardens, other personal property, or to disturb the natural landscape,
vegetation or structures on park property or otherwise use park property for private
use. All setbacks and other local zoning regulations are in effect and apply against
properties adjacent to a County Park as they would against property adjacent to private
property;
Motion carried.
RAMSEY COUNTY REGIONAL TRAIL NETWORK
The County Board approved a Federal Legislative request for$33 million to complete the 100-mile regional
trail network throughout Ramsey County. The regional trail will serve as arterial routes that link local trails
and trails that extend to adjacent counties. Approximately 56 miles of the system have been developed.
lThe Commission expressed strong support for the proposed regional trail network.
DIRECTOR'S REPORT
Greg Mack stated:
♦ 2008-2013 CIP will be presented to the Commission on February 13, 2007
♦ LCCMR emphasis in 2007 is on acquisition for the Regional Park System
2007 Parks and Recreation Department work program to be presented at the next Parks
Commission meeting
REPORTS FROM CHAIR AND OTHER COMMISSION MEMBERS
ADJOURNMENT
Upon appropriate motion, the meeting adjourned.
Vicki Dahlquist
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