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EN HILLS
Approved: February 27, 2012
CITY OF ARDEN HILLS,MINNESOTA
CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION MEETING
JANUARY 30,2012
5:30 P.M. —ARDEN HILLS CITY HALL
CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, Mayor David Grant called to order the City
Council Work Session meeting at 5:30 p.m.
Present: Mayor David Grant; Councilmembers Brenda Holden, Fran Holmes,Nick
Tamble and Ed Werner.
Absent: None
Also present: City Administrator Patrick Klaers; Public Works Director Terry Maurer;
Director of Finance and Administrative Services Sue Iverson; Community Development
Director Jill Hutmacher; City Planner Meagan Beekman; and Deputy Clerk Rebecca
Brazys.
1. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Councilmember Holden requested that the agenda be amended to include a discussion on
Keithson Drive.
Council consensus was to accept the agenda as amended.
2. AGENDA ITEMS
A. Meeting Schedule for Special Council Work Sessions
City Administrator Klaers explained that there are a number of work session topics the Council
needs to review. He has scheduled the following special work sessions prior to regular Council
meetings and would appreciate Council feedback.
February 13 - 5:30 p.m. To discuss a development proposal, and roles of Council
Liaisons
February 27— 5:15 p.m. Risk Training—Ramsey County Sheriff's Department
March 12—5:30 p.m. Ramsey County Elections
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Council consensus was to direct staff to proceed with the work session schedule as presented.
B. Old Snelling Avenue Feasibility Discussion
Public Works Director Maurer stated that at the December 19th Work Session the Council gave
consensus for staff to start the preparation of the Old Snelling Avenue Feasibility Study. That
study could be complete in February and ready to present to Council at a regular meeting. He
explained, however, that before staff places this on a February agenda, he would like to know
whether the Council plans to move forward with this project in 2012.
Public Works Director Maurer reviewed the following issues for the Council to consider:
• The Council has engaged Kimley Horn to prepare final bridge replacement plans in an effort
to acquire some State Bridge Bonding Funds to help with the construction costs. Due to the
amount of time it takes to complete the hydraulic analysis and have it reviewed, these plans
will not be completed and approved by the Mn/DOT Office of State Aid in time for the 2012
funding cycle. The absolute soonest the bridge could be reconstructed would be 2013.
• The project could be funded using MSA funds but that may require the placement of more
(thicker) bituminous surfacing to meet an MSA design. The City really will not be able to
quantify the increased cost to use MSA funds without actually submitting the plans to the
Office of State Aid for approval. Even after plans have been approved by the Office of State
Aid, the City could still decide to fund the project with local funds and forgo the use of MSA
funds on the project.
• The last traffic count showed about 1,000 cars a day on Old Snelling Avenue. That number is
not likely to grow significantly in the future due to the developed nature of the area and the
turning restrictions at TH 51.
• If the project is not undertaken in 2012, it would be best to wait past the US 10/Highway 96
project in 2013 and not do the work the same year the bridge over TH 51 is replaced, which is
currently scheduled for 2015 in Mn/DOT's plan.
• There are only about 27 properties that could be assessed for the street work. This is a very
small number relative to the length and cost of the project. The City's Assessment Policy will
not be applicable to this situation. A modification will be necessary.
Public Works Director Maurer explained that the only recommendation staff would have is that
if doing the Old Snelling Avenue project in 2012 would make it difficult to proceed with some of
the neighborhood street projects in the CIP, staff would rather wait on the Old Snelling project.
There are no serious utility issues on Old Snelling that need attention and the current street surface
could be maintained for a few more years. If the Council decides to delay the Old Snelling
project, the draft feasibility study will be filed until the project is actually scheduled. He also
recommended that if this project is not done in 2012, it also not be done in 2013 because Highway
96 will be closed. In addition, this project should not be done when the County Road E bridge
replacement is scheduled, which is currently 2015 in Mn/DOT's plan.
Councilmember Holmes commented that she thought the Council had discussed proceeding with
this project in 2012 so it would be done before the bridge project begins and because MSA funds
would be available.
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Councilmember Tamble questioned how this project would affect the proposed street
maintenance schedule of completing a project every other year.
Public Works Director Maurer responded that in the CIP, the Edgewater neighborhood is
scheduled for 2013, and the Valentine Park neighborhood in 2015, and the Floral Park
neighborhood in 2017.
Councilmember Tamble stated if the Old Snelling project isn't done this year, considering the
other projects scheduled, it sounds like it would not be done until 2016.
Public Works Director Maurer stated that it could be done in 2014 and if it's done with State
Aid Funds it could be done at any time.
Councilmember Holden questioned how much staff time would be required for the Highway 96
and Lexington Avenue projects.
Public Works Director Maurer responded that he doesn't anticipate that a great deal of City
staff time will be required.
Councilmember Holden commented that there are a lot of neighborhood streets with more traffic
than Old Snelling that need attention. She recommended postponing the Old Snelling project.
She also commented that Council practice has been to review and accept the feasibility study and
thought that should be done with the Old Snelling project whether or not the Council chooses to
proceed this year.
Public Works Director Maurer stated that the Council had not officially ordered the feasibility
study but directed staff to start working on it. He recommended the Council approve a resolution
to order the study and then he will present it. But, he also stated, he was concerned that taking
action on the feasibility study and then not proceeding with the project could be an issue for
residents as the feasibility study is the first step towards assessing for improvements. He offered
to present the feasibility study to Council in draft form.
Council consensus was to have staff present the feasibility study at an upcoming Council meeting.
C. Council Appointments to Committees and Commissions
City Administrator Klaers explained that before the Council Liaison appointments and
appointments to various City and local Boards and Commissions, he would like to discuss the
following issues:
• The Beyond the Yellow Ribbon (BYR) Organization is a new committee for
Suburban Ramsey County. The Council may want to make an appointment to
the Steering Committee of this organization. The BYR Steering Committee
meets monthly at 7:00 p.m. at the Roseville City Hall.
• A new committee appointment is being requested; two Councilmembers to be
placed on the B2 Corridor Advisory Committee (CAC). During Phase I of the
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B2 Implementation project, the CAC is expected to meet 3 times. They will
likely meet during the work day. Phase I should take about six months to
complete and the committee will probably continue to meet throughout the
project (to be completed in about 2015). This appointment does not need to be
part of the Organizational Resolution as it will be a short term type of
appointment. The B2 CAC will include Councilmembers, business owners and
the staff/consultant management team.. He suggested that Councilmembers
Holmes and Werner be appointed as Council representatives to the CAC.
Councilmember Werner is scheduled to be appointed to the EDC and has
expressed interest in this B2 Committee and Councilmember Holmes has
previously expressed concerns over the current B2 plan and has also expressed
interest in being on this committee. Staff will also be looking for Council
direction regarding the appointment of business owners onto the CAC.
• Someone from the Council should be appointed to the Ramsey County League
of Local Governments (RCLLG). City Administrator Klaers explained that he
is the Alternate and either the representative or the Alternate can vote at the
Board meeting. The RCLLG meets about 6 times a year at night for 2 hours and
the Board usually meets prior to the RCLLG at 5:30 p.m. for 1 hour.
• There does not appear to be a need for a Council appointment and a staff
member to both attend the Karth Lake meetings. This group meets at 7:00 p.m.
on a quarterly basis. The meetings are scheduled for the second Tuesday of
April, July, October, and December. Typically, some of these meetings get
cancelled. The group is in existence due to.state law requirements for the Karth
Lake Improvement Project and assessment that was approved by the City
Council
• For the Northwest Youth&.Family Services (NYFS), City Administrator Klaers
stated that the responsibilities of the appointee need to be discussed. It is the
City's option and opportunity to have someone on the Board. The City
representative does not have to be a City Councilmember. The NYFS meets
monthly on the 3rd Thursday at 7:00 a.m. The Board has a limit of 19 members
(ther'e currently are 16 members). Board members also are expected to sit on
one or two of the NYFS standing committees. The NYFS has two main
fundraising activities - one in the spring and one in the fall and members are
expected to network and promote these events. The NYFS desires a 3-year
commitment from its Board members.
Councilmember Tamble stated that he would like to open the NYFS and the Yellow Ribbon
appointments to community members before making appointments.
Mayor Grant stated that he agrees with Councilmember Tamble.
Community Development Director Hutmacher recommended the Council consider the
following businesses for appointment to the B2 Corridor Advisory Committee: Anchor Bank,
Arden Plaza, Brausen's Automotive, Flaherty's Arden Bowl, McDonald's, and TAT Properties.
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Councilmember Holmes stated that she would take the NYFS appointment until a volunteer is
available.
Councilmember Werner offered to serve on the Ramsey County League of Local Government.
Discussion ensued and the consensus of the Council was to have staff"cast a wide net" for the B2
Corridor Advisory Committee and to advertise for volunteers to represent the City on the Beyond
the Yellow Ribbon Committee and Northwest Youth and Family Services.
D. Update on Status of 2011 City Goals
City Administrator Klaers explained that on July 11, 2011, the City Council adopted the 2011
Goals Guiding Document. This approval came after four City Council work sessions on City
Goals, although the first session was devoted entirely to TCAAP. He stated that this is the first
official check-in on the work that has been done on the identified goals since July. TCAAP is not
on the Goals worksheet and in July 2011 it was acknowledged that TCAAP could dramatically
impact the amount of time that staff had available to work on other City Goals.
City Administrator Klaers explained that some of the goals on the worksheet are related to the
ongoing operation and management of City departments. These ongoing tasks were identified as
goals because the Council wanted to see some changes within the departments (what was being
worked on and how the departments operated). On the other hand, some of the goals were clearly
substantial new work projects in addition to the management of the ongoing departmental
operations.
City Administrator Klaers stated that it is staff s intent for this to be the first six month check-
in. As the July 2011 minutes reflect, the Goals document is to be a "living plan" that will need to
be changed as priorities and situations in the City change.
Mayor Grant referred to the "estimated length to complete" reference in the Goals document and
stated that the "year" timeframe listed is not specific enough. He stated he would like to see the
timeline broken down by quarter. He also stated that each of the goals should have a defined
outcome.
Councilmember Holden questioned the meaning of the "ongoing" column on the goals list; she
wondered if that meant that the project has been initiated.
Director of Finance and Administrative Services Iverson explained using an example, that she
has not yet started the project "train all supervisors on proper procedures" but it has been labeled
"ongoing" as it is something that will continually need to be looked at.
Councilmember Holden commented that if a project has not been initiated it should not be
labeled as "ongoing," only the initial project should be listed.
Director of Finance and Administrative Services Iverson stated that we could remove the
ongoing column to make things clearer.
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Councilmember Tamble stated that Community Development Director Hutmacher's memo
regarding that department's progress on goals has more substance than the chart itself.
Councilmember Holden asked if Item 2c "Organize Employee Files" should be completed
sooner rather than later as it had a goal of 2013.
Director of Finance and Administrative Services Iverson stated that there was nothing legally
wrong with the files, but that she wanted to go through and put them in a more organized manner,
and that the year should be 2012.
Councilmember Holmes stated she has not yet had an opportunity to address her concerns with
the Safety Policy referred to in 3a, so that the Council can formally adopt it.
E. Keithson Drive Discussion
Councilmember Holden stated she had received two complaints, one via email and a phone call,
from residents concerned about construction traffic on Keithson Drive, such as cement trucks and
trucks with construction materials and blocks. She referred to the Council minutes of the meeting
when the Pulte development was approved and the Council had stated that no construction traffic
would be allowed.
Public Works Director Maurer commented that the problem is that Pulte hires contractors who
hire subcontractors. The drivers delivering material refer to GPS for the delivery route and it
directs them to Keithson Drive. One extreme solution would be to block Keithson at Highway 96
and have Pulte post signs "No outlet to Highway 96,"but that would impact residents as well. He
added that if this had been a typical winter with heavy snow, the type three barricades normally
used would be down already because it would be very difficult to plow around them.
Mayor Grant asked if the deliveries can be directed to the entrance off Snelling Avenue with
signage.
Public Works Director Maurer stated that even with signage, some of the drivers will continue
to use Keithson. Any barricade at Highway 96 would require notification at the turn lane on
Highway 96. He stated that at some point there will be moving trucks for the new residents and
then landscaping trucks. He added that the main concern he has heard from residents is whether
or not the construction traffic will destroy the roadway and then the City would be assessing the
residents to pay for repairs. He stated that the roadway is frozen now and can support the
construction traffic. In the spring there will be a weight restriction on those roads which will be
monitored by the sheriff.
Councilmember Holden questioned why Keithson couldn't be marked "No Through Traffic"
which would stop the construction vehicles but not the residents.
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Public Works Director Maurer commented that it is his experience that if a personal car or SUV
can utilize a road, a delivery truck can also get through.
Councilmember Holmes stated that if the City cannot practically control construction traffic, the
Council shouldn't include a restriction on construction traffic and should let the neighborhood
know why it is difficult to control.
Mayor Grant commented that Pulte has to have encountered this type of issue before.
Public Works Director Maurer offered to contact Pulte and make it their responsibility to come
up with a way to monitor the construction traffic.
3. COUNCIL COMMENTS & STAFF UPDATES
Councilmember Holden stated that residents recently called 911 about an uncovered manhole
but dispatch didn't contact Public Works for almost 30 minutes.
City Administrator Klaers stated that he would look into that incident and report back.
Mayor Grant asked about the progress on the utility rates.
Director of Finance and Administrative Services stated she has not started the process yet but it
is scheduled to come to Council in late February or early March for implementation by second
quarter.
City Planner Beekman stated the Community Clean-up Event is scheduled for the third Saturday
in May from 8:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m.
ADJOURN
Mayor Grant adjourned the City Council Work Session meeting at 6:57 p.m.
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Patrick Klaers David Grant
City Administrator Mayor