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Approved: April 16, 2012
CITY OF ARDEN HILLS, MINNESOTA
CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION MEETING
MARCH 19,2012
5:00 P.M. -ARDEN HILLS CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, Mayor David Grant called to order the City
Council Work Session meeting at 5:01 p.m.
Present: Mayor David Grant, Council Members Brenda Holden, Fran Holmes, Nick
Tamble, and Ed Werner
Absent: None.
Also Present: City Administrator Patrick Klaers; Community Development Director Jill
Hutmacher; City Planner Meagan Beekman; and Planning Commissioners Janet Stodola,
Clayton Larson, Roberta Thompson, Angela Hames, and Andrew Holewa
1. ADOPT AGENDA
MOTION: Councilmember Holmes moved and Councilmember Holden seconded a
motion to approve the meeting agenda as presented. The motion carried
unanimously (5-0).
2. AGENDA ITEMS
A. Arden Village Review and Update
City Planner Beekman presented the City Council with information on Arden Village. She
explained that Sand Companies was the developer for the project and were seeking a letter of
support for their 2012 tax credit application for the Minnesota Housing Finance Agency. The
application deadline is late May. In preparation of this application, the developer requested an
opportunity to speak with the Council and discuss the project in further detail.
City Planner Beekman explained Arden Village is a 55-unit four-story building with workforce
rental housing located at 1296 County Road F. The development would also include a tot lot
playground and picnic area for residents. At the time of the approval a zoning code amendment
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was approved changing the site from Industrial to High Density Residential. The City previously
approved a letter of support for up to $225,000 of TIF for this development. Staff recommended
the Council discuss the project along with the letter of support.
John Belisle, Midwest Housing, discussed the Arden Village Development further noting that the
project planning began in 2009. He noted this is a high quality project with the goal being to
create workforce housing geared towards working families. He noted Sand Companies has been
in business for 20 years. The rental rates were discussed in detail, along with income limits. He
noted credit and criminal background checks are completed on each renter.
Mr. Belisle commented he has completed four applications for this project to the Minnesota
Housing Finance Agency. He indicated additional funding sources were being sought to subsidize
the reduced rental rates. Arden Village received an earmark for $250,000 in home funds last year
from Ramsey County, which will be given again in 2012.
Mr. Belisle stated that tax credits for housing projects are granted on an extremely competitive
basis. For this reason, he is seeking a City Council letter of support for the 2012 tax credit
application for the Minnesota Housing Finance Agency.
Councilmember Holden requested further information on the project's financing and how the
programs are funded. Mr. Belisle reviewed a chart with the Council.
City Administrator Klaers requested City Planner Beekman discuss the City's low to moderate
income housing goals as approved by the Metropolitan Council
Mr. Belisle stated he had reviewed the 2030 Comprehensive Plan when this project began.
City Planner Beekman stated the Met Council assigns a certain number of housing units to each
community for low to moderate income housing units based on demographics and rate of
projected growth. The community is then expected to adopt these goals and participate in the Met
Council's Home Program. At this time, the City's goal is to add 288 affordable housing units by
2020. Participation in the Met Council's Home Program is required to receive any grants and
funding available from the Met Council; however, she noted the program was voluntary.
City Planner Beekman explained the need for affordable housing is made visible through this
program. She reported Arden Village met the affordable housing standards.
Mr. Belisle stated the local participation allows for additional funding opportunities through the
Met Council Further discussion ensued regarding the application process with the Minnesota
Housing Finance Agency and tax credits.
Councilmember Holmes expressed concern that funds were being requested from the City when
the developer was not investing the same amount. The developer was receiving tax credits to
cover their expenses while the City would be out $225,000 in TIF money.
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Mr. Belisle commented that without assistance this project could not move forward.
City Planner Beekman indicated developers expect to make money over time through a
development. The City was not looking to make a profit on the development but was looking to
make an investment in the community.
Community Development Director Hutmacher added that the cost of building these units
would not allow for them to be geared towards workforce housing. For that reason, tax credits
and grants reduce the capital costs of development so that rents are affordable.
City Administrator Klaers stated the only risk with the development would be if the units were
not rented.
Mayor Grant questioned how much of the land costs were recouped through the sale of the
antenna tower.
Mr. Belisle explained he was asked to keep this information confidential.
City Administrator Klaers stated the information may be public and available through Ramsey
County.
Councilmember Holden was in favor of providing some TIF dollars for the project. She was
uncertain if the entire $225,000 was necessary.
City Planner Beekman questioned if the application with the Minnesota Housing Finance
Agency would be jeopardized if the TIF amount was reduced.
Mr. Belisle did not feel this would jeopardize the application, as the City was assisting with
reduced Park Dedication Fees and a trail. He noted the City did approve a higher density for the
site, which assisted the project.
Mayor Grant felt it would be difficult for the City to offer the same amount of TIF year after year
as developments and initiatives throughout the community change. He questioned if $100,000
were offered by the City if Sand Companies could make up the difference.
Jamie Thelen, Sand Companies, indicated Sand Companies has been investigating other funding
sources to assist with the project.
Councilmember Holmes asked for the estimated net profit for the first year of operation.
Mr. Belisle anticipated the development would make approximately $50,000 in the first year after
paying all operating expenses and debt services. He explained the units had to remain affordable
for 30 years.
City Administrator Klaers questioned if it would be appropriate to have Ehlers review the
information and determine an appropriate level of TIF for the proposed development.
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Community Development Director Hutmacher explained the "But For" analysis from Ehlers
could provide the Council with additional information on the proposed development and its
overall financing.
Mayor Grant asked if staff knew the expense of the "But For" analysis.
City Administrator Klaers estimated this to be a $5,000 expense and would be paid for by the
developer.
City Planner Beekman indicated if the TIF funds were granted, the assistance would be available
to the developer for 12 years. After that time, full property taxes would be paid.
Mayor Grant stated the City could also take TIF from Cottage Villas and apply it to this project.
That would allow the tax revenue from this project to be collected from Day 1. The advantage of
using these funds was that it was slated for affordable housing.
City Planner Beekman stated this would be an option and the City would see some cost savings
by not creating a new TIF district.
Mayor Grant questioned if the Council wanted to proceed with the $225,000 in TIF or allocate a
lesser amount. He was willing to provide TIF funds to the development but was uncertain if the
full amount was necessary.
Councilmember Tamble stated he was in favor of the development but was unable to commit to
a dollar amount.
Councilmember Holden agreed.
Councilmember Holmes indicated she too supported the project.
Councilmember Werner was not solid on the numbers but was willing to pursue TIF for this
development. He questioned if the City had to determine an amount at this time or simply offer
support for the project.
Mr. Belisle commented that an amount did have to be included in the letter of support for the
Minnesota Housing Finance Agency. He offered to walk Councilmembers Werner and Tamble
through the facility in White Bear Lake to provide more information on the proposed
development.
B. The Salvation Army dult Rehabilitation Center
City Planner Beekman presented the City Council with further information on the Salvation
Army Adult Rehabilitation Center. She noted this issue was discussed at a previous work session
meeting. The Salvation Army was interested in moving their adult rehabilitation facility to the
property at 1300 Grey Fox Road. The applicant is proposing the reuse of the existing warehouse
building, and to construct a new building that would be the location of the site's housing and
administrative functions.
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City Planner Beekman explained the Council had raised several concerns and questions with the
project, which were forwarded to the applicant. Staff provided the Council with the February 21"
draft minutes along with the 2012 proposed tax statements. She commented this evening would
allow for further discussion on the redevelopment concept.
Mayor Grant commented several Planning Commission members were present for the joint
meeting scheduled for this evening.
David Anderson, Frauenshuh, thanked the Council for their time this evening. He reviewed the
Council's questions and Salvation Army's answers provided within the staff report.
Annette Bauer, Salvation Army, commented one of the concerns expressed by the Council was
the police presence or calls to the site. It was noted there were two calls to the Minneapolis site
per month for the past three months. She explained that several of these calls were to the adjacent
Thrift Store and did not involve the rehabilitation center. Ms. Bauer stated internal security could
be investigated for the rehabilitation center. She then reviewed the number of full time employees
onsite.
George Fraser, Salvation Army, commented the front desk was manned 24 hours a day, 7 days a
week, in addition to the four full time employees available onsite.
Ms. Bauer stated the men in the program receive a stipend to cover personal expenses, after
successfully completing 30 days in the program. This amounts to $12,000 a month, collectively.
Councilmember Holden indicated this conflicted with the information provided last month, in
that the residents would not be out in the community.
Bill Price, Salvation Army Administrator, offered further clarification on the program parameters
stating the men were in class from 6:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. for the first 30 days, Monday through
Friday. After that time, passes are allowed after the work day and on weekends. This would
allow the men to spend their allowance in the community.
Mayor Grant inquired how the men in the program were transported to Salvation Army stores for
work.
Mr. Price explained most of the beneficiaries in the program go by public transportation. He
noted only 30 to 40 beneficiaries are working in Salvation Army stores.
Mr. Price stated vans would be an option if public transportation was not an option. He
explained that cars were not allowed at the Salvation Army for the beneficiaries that were in the
program. He noted some of the residents did not have a driver's license.
Councilmember Holden questioned what percentage of residents did not have a license.
Mr. Price stated this was completely subject to change depending on the clientele but estimated
one-third of the residents did not have a driver's license.
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Councilmember Holmes commented the public transportation in Arden Hills would be more
limited than the buses available in downtown Minneapolis. She questioned if this would limit the
access available to the residents.
Mr. Price indicated this may change the way things are currently done, but more vans could be
brought to the site to assist with transportation. However, this issue would not limit the
redevelopment.
Mayor Grant understood that alcoholism was treated through the rehabilitation program. He
questioned if gambling concerns were also treated.
Mr. Price stated gambling problems were often found with alcohol addictions. He explained the
primary program to treat gambling addictions was offered through Fairview Riverside. He
indicated the program does address "switching addictions" to assure the residents do not move
from one issue to another.
Councilmember Holden commented that after speaking with several individuals regarding the
program she understood that the Salvation Army took the cream of the crop, which was assisting
with the high success rate for the program.
City Administrator Klaers indicated one of the core questions that still needs to be addressed
was if the Council was interested in rezoning the property to allow Residential in the I-Flex zone.
Ms. Bauer stated visitors at the site have not been a problem, but concern was expressed by the
Council
Mr. Fraser discussed the visitor situation stating family was only allowed from 8:00 p.m. to
10:00 p.m. He indicated the visitor time allowed the resident to become integrated back into their
family throughout the rehabilitation process.
Councilmember Holden asked if a retail store was proposed for Arden Hills.
Ms. Bauer stated a retail store was not proposed at this time. She then discussed the proposed
benefits of improving the site. The Salvation Army would be willing to assist with a city-wide
recycling day or recycling initiative.
Councilmember Tamble indicated he was impressed by the Salvation Army tour. He stated
Arden Hills had a great deal of tax free property with the colleges and stated he wanted to see the
potential redevelopment venture mutually benefit the City.
Mr. Price questioned what number the City would need to hit in order to make this venture
beneficial. He recommended the Council consider this further.
Councilmember Holden explained she was struggling with rezoning the property.
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Councilmember Werner commented this same concern was brought up by the EDC. One issue
that still hasn't been addressed is how the residents of Arden Hills will react to the Salvation
Army proposal.
Councilmember Holmes noted the rezoning could be done in such a way to allow for an interim
use permit for the Salvation Army. Another option would be to create a PUD with the rezoning.
Each would require a 4/5 vote.
Mayor Grant stated he did not see how the Council could put a residential use in the Industrial
zone. He indicated the transportation issues for the City would also be a concern. He understood
the improvements proposed for the property would benefit the City, but felt the use did not fit the
site. He commented the Financial Planning and Analysis Committee was not in favor of
additional tax free property in the City. The burden created would affect Arden Hills residents.
Overall,he felt the proposed use was wrong for the site.
Mr. Anderson explained the City's portion of tax loss would be $10,000 per year. He questioned
if the Salvation Army were to bring more than $10,000 into the City if this would assist with the
decision.
Mayor Grant appreciated the recycling aspect. However, the use still did not fit into the
Industrial site.
Councilmember Holmes reviewed the surrounding uses at this location. She did not feel the
rehabilitation center would interfere and fully supported the Salvation Army coming to Arden
Hills.
Mayor Grant indicated the Salvation Army does provide a great service through the program at
the rehabilitation center and should be respected.
Councilmember Werner agreed stating he appreciated the tour and the work completed by the
Salvation Army. However, at this time, he could not support the rezoning.
Councilmember Tamble stated the majority of the Council did not support the rezoning.
However, he would support the issue if financial issues were further discussed.
Mr. Price understood the Council's concerns. He indicated there were 120 rehabilitation centers
throughout the United States and nearly all were located in light industrial or mixed use zoning
districts. The reason for this was to avoid putting a warehouse in a residential zoning district.
Councilmember Holmes felt this was a good point. She recommended the Council consider this
redevelopment as it was a unique facility with residential and light industrial.
Mayor Grant questioned how the current Minneapolis site was zoned.
Mr. Price stated the site was zoned industrial (I-2) with a residential overlay that allows for
housing. He commented the downtown warehouse district has transformed over time with more
and more housing.
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Mr. Anderson thanked the Council for their time and for the comments provided this evening.
C. 2012 Work Plan and Project Priorities Discussion
City Planner Beekman indicated the Council has made it a practice to hold a joint meeting with
the Planning Commission on a yearly basis. This was a good way to hold valuable discussion and
provide feedback to Staff on the City's work plan, goals and project priorities for 2012. She
reviewed several items up for discussion noting direction from the Council would be appreciated.
Chair Larson stated the Planning Commission's role and responsibility was the subject of an
email he sent to the Mayor last year. This issue was raised after the Council discussed a Planning
Commission item for over two hours. Feedback provided from the Mayor stated the Planning
Commission did not need to change their method of review at this time.
Chair Larson felt the Planning Commission should encourage the applicant to participate in
public hearings. He added that more questions could be asked of the applicant to provide more
information to the public.
Mayor Grant agreed with these recommendations stating engaging the applicant would provide
additional information to the residents. However, he cautioned the Planning Commission from
straying off topic.. He encouraged the Planning Commission to stick to the City Code when
reviewing all cases.
Couneilmember Holden thanked the Planning Commission for all of the hard work completed
on behalf of the community. She was impressed with the way the Planning Commission meetings
were run. She stated if the public wanted additional information on the planning cases, the packet
was available online.
Chair Larson stated if an issue was controversial, attendance at a meeting was high and
comments were taken and considered from the public.
Mayor Grant commented non-controversial items at the Council level were placed on the
Consent Agenda for approval. However, this provided the public with no information to the
public. He recommended a brief staff presentation be given at the Planning Commission on items
to provide the public with basic information on each case.
Chair Larson indicated this suggestion would address non-controversial items as well as
controversial ones.
Commissioner Holewa stated communication with the public was good for the entire approval
process. The more comments, both positive and negative, brought to the City the better.
Councilmember Holmes asked if a checklist could be reviewed with each item to assure that all
issues were addressed before being approved.
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Councilmember Holden stated this would address her concerns when non-controversial issues
were approved with no comments. There would be a greater reflection of the planning cases in
the meeting minutes if a brief staff report were given.
Chair Larson explained the information provided within the staff report was extremely thorough
and addressed all of the issues with each planning case.
Commissioner Stodola indicated the summary within the staff report provided such complete
information it is not typically rehashed within the Planning Commission meeting.
Commissioner Holewa questioned why some issues were brought to the Council for discussion
prior to being reviewed by the Planning Commission.
City Planner Beekman stated this was done only for issues that required a policy decision, such
as rezoning or increased density as was the case with Presbyterian Homes and Pulte. This allows
the applicant to receive feedback to see if it is worth pursuing their project. After input is
provided by the Council, the item would then be brought to the Planning Commission for a work
session discussion.
Commissioner Thompson stated it would benefit the Commission to discuss the key points or
review a checklist of information for each case to assure that controversial issues are addressed.
City Planner Beekman explained the information provided to the Planning Commission for each
case from staff was drafted after much discussion with the applicant. The Planning Commission
then reviews the case to see if it is in compliance with City Code. If this is the case, the Planning
Commission recommends approval. It is then left up to the Council to approve or deny with
further comments or conditions.
Chair Larson further discussed design standards for the City in comparison to other
communities. He stated businesses were willing to alter their trade package building standards so
long as the buildings remain recognizable.
Commissioner Stodola questioned if specific design standards could be set for the B-2 zoning
district and not for others.
City Planner Beekman stated this was allowed.
Mayor Grant moved the discussion along to the 2012 Work Plan. The B-2 design standards
were discussed.
City Planner Beekman stated the Planning Commission could review the standards at an
upcoming meeting to see if the standards were still meeting the goals and objectives for the
corridor.
Councilmember Holden agreed stating new products were available since the standards were
created.
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Chair Larson discussed a recent business trip to Irvine, California stating architectural design
standards there brought together color schemes and landscaping.
City Planner Beekman was in favor of the Planning Commission reviewing the design standards
to update the information and provide further direction for future developments..
Mayor Grant requested the Council provide comment on the Commission's work plan. The
Council was in favor of the Planning Commission proceeding with the adoption of wetland
setbacks within the Zoning Code.
Mayor Grant stated the development of a Parks and Open Space Zoning District for the TCAAP
and AHATS property could be put on hold until the sites were proposed for redevelopment.
Councilmember Holmes felt this item was a low priority.
Mayor Grant and Councilmember Holden agreed.
City Planner Beekman stated the City's bike parking requirements needed to be reviewed as the
parking standards were unclear.
Commissioner Holewa commented the number of required bike parking spaces should be
clarified within the B-2 zoning district. The goal would be to provide for a more pedestrian
friendly community,
Councilmember Holmes asked if other communities were addressing bike parking needs.
City Planner Beekman explained some cities have a requirement that for every certain number of
parking spaces, one bike space was necessary. However, this does not regulate the look of the
bike rack, which the City may want to address as well.
Councilmember Holden stated there were no bike racks at the City's parks either. She indicated
the City may want to address this as well.
Councilmember Holmes questioned how the Planning Commission would be proactive in
implementing the B-2 zoning plan.
Commissioner Thompson indicated this meant the Planning Commission .was actively
considering planning cases proposing redevelopment in this area of the City.
City Administrator Klaers stated the key word for this item was "proactive," meaning the
Commission would take action to promote redevelopment within the B-2 zoning district. Further
discussion ensued regarding the opportunities available at the Carroll's property.
Councilmember Holden suggested the Planning Commission continue with the proactive
implementation of the B-2 zoning plan on an ongoing basis. She requested the Planning
Commission also review the B-2 zoning design standards this year.
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Councilmember Holden questioned if the City should review its parking standards. She felt the
City of Arden Hills required too many parking spaces at this time.
City Planner Beekman stated parking maximums could be reviewed and discussed. She
commented it has been her experience that developers were typically requesting more parking
than was required by the City.
Mayor Grant commented the Council felt it was a high priority for the Planning Commission to
review the B-2 design standards.
City Planner Beekman stated aesthetic items could be written into the design standards, such as
lighting and color palettes.
Councilmember Holmes questioned how many signs were allowed in the residential zoning
district. She felt this issue should be addressed as she felt two signs should not be allowed in
residential areas.
City Planner Beekman explained eight square feet of on-premise signage was allowed in the
residential zoning district. One sign could not exceed six square feet.
Councilmember Holmes asked if real estate signs could be regulated separately from business
signs.
Commissioner Hames indicated the sign content could not be regulated.
Councilmember Holmes inquired if the residential business signs could become permanent.
Commissioner Hames stated this was the case for some home businesses.
Councilmember Holmes requested the Commission review this issue further.
City Planner Beekman explained she could proceed with a Code amendment with consensus
from the Council. She noted the item could be amended at the Council level and did not require a
recommendation from the Planning Commission.
Councilmember Holden suggested this item be reviewed at an upcoming work session by the
Council. The Council was in agreement.
Mayor Grant thanked the Planning Commission for their time this evening and for the
discussion.
D. Public Inquiries
Mayor Grant stated he requested this agenda item. He was not pleased with the current process
for public comments and inquiries. He suggested the Council consider a wording change which
would allow the public three minutes of discussion for items on the agenda. The intent would be
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to allow for limited discussion, while allowing people to speak. He did not want to turn items into
public hearings when not properly notified.
Councilmember Holmes did not see why there needed to be any limits. She felt everyone had
the right to speak.
Mayor Grant stated he would write up new language and pass it along to the Council.
3. COUNCIL COMMENTS AND REQUESTS
Councilmember Holden stated she was receiving traffic complaints from the businesses along
Lexington Avenue and Red Fox Road. She noted this may be a Ramsey County Sheriff s issue as
cars are running red lights backing up traffic in the left hand turn lanes. She indicated this was
taking place during the evening rush hour.
City Administrator Klaers stated he would speak to Ramsey County.
Councilmember Tamble commented he attended a seminar on March 61h called Reinventing
TCAAP. The event recapped TCAAP's history.
Councilmember Tamble noted the U.S. Department of Fish and Wildlife was interested in
dredging Round Lake. He stated this recommendation would need to be considered by the City.
He explained the topic would be discussed again in April.
Mayor Grant stated on April 18th CTV-15 was holding an appreciation event in Arden Hills. He
would be in attendance at the event presenting the welcome.
City Administrator Klaers indicated an animal control officer has been hired, however the City
would need to extend Rick's contract through April. The Council was in favor with this.
City Administrator Klaers explained the school superintendent was invited to speak at an
upcoming Council meeting. This was scheduled for April 301h and he was requesting 30 minutes
to speak.
ADJOURN
Mayor Grant adjourned the City Council Work Session meeting at 8:49 p.m.
Patrick Klaers David Grant
City Administrator Mayor