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Approved: October 29, 2012
CITY OF ARDEN HILLS,MINNESOTA
CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION MEETING
SEPTEMBER 24,2012
IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
- CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, Mayor Grant called to order the City Council
Work Session meeting at 8:47 p.m.
Present: Mayor David Grant; Councilmembers Brenda Holden, Fran Holmes, Nick
Tamble, and Ed Werner
Absent: None
Also present: City Administrator Patrick Klaers; and City Planner Meagan Beekman
1. AGENDA ITEMS
A. Residential Curbside Recycling—Contract Discussion
City Planner Beekman stated that the Council packet of background information includes the
Recycling Performance Report received from Ramsey County and the current Eureka Recycling
contract. She noted that the City has contracted with Eureka Recycling since March of 2008 and
that in 2010, the contract was extended for two years. The current contract is set to expire on
March 1, 2013.
City Planner Beekman explained that she would like direction from the Council whether they
are interested in renegotiating an extension with Eureka Recycling or if they would like to start
the process of soliciting proposals for a new recycling curbside service provider through a
request for proposal (RFP)process. She noted that the RFP process can take three to six months.
City Planner Beekman indicated that Ramsey County has a contract with Foth Infrastructure &
Environment, LLC which is a consulting firm that specializes in recycling contracts. She said
that their services are available to the City free of charge.
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City Planner Beekman noted that even if we do go out for an RFP process, she has been told by
Foth Infrastructure & Environment, LLC, that the City should extend the contract with Eureka
Recycling for six months in order to ensure a thorough RFP process.
City Planner Beekman explained that one of the biggest issues that has changed since 2008 is
how cities deal with plastics. In 2008, most haulers were just collecting plastic types #1 and #2.
Now they are accepting all types of plastics. Eureka Recycling is different, however, than other
companies. They are a non-profit organization whose mission is zero-waste, which means they
do not collect materials that they cannot sell to a market that can certify that the materials are
being recycled. For-profit commercial recycling providers are more driven by customer service.
They will collect a broader mix of materials because the materials that do not have a post-
consumer market can be discarded in the regular waste system (i.e. landfills, incinerators). The
advantage of for-profit recycling haulers is convenience to the resident. Often, they will collect
using a single-stream system, which means residents have one container for all recycling
materials. The container can be picked up mechanically by the truck. Eureka Recycling uses a
dual-sort approach and hand-picks recycling materials, which means the driver is visually
inspecting materials and removing the items that do not have a post-consumer market. It should
be noted that Eureka Recycling is working on a system that will broaden the materials they will
pick up.
Councilmember Holmes questioned which option offers the lowest cost. Eureka Recycling
offers revenue sharing, but she is unsure if any of the other companies have revenue sharing. She
knows that people have a tendency to get upset with Eureka Recycling because they do not take
as many plastics and are not concerned about the reasons why certain plastics are unacceptable.
Her priority is cost.
Councilmember Holden stated that the graph that Ramsey County provided shows that the
recycling tonnage numbers in the City were down in 2011. She questioned if they do weighted
averages. She noted that people may not be producing as much waste or that the packaging is not
producing as much waste.
City Planner Beekman pointed out that page three of the Recycling Performance Report depicts
that the City of Arden Hills has the highest pounds of recycling when ranked among other
communities. She believes that the decline in the overall recycling tonnage numbers that
Councilmember Holden inquired about is due to the decline in newspaper, which affects all of
the surrounding communities.
Councilmember Holden indicated that the lowest cost is not as important to her as ensuring that
materials are actually being recycled. She stated that with the single sort system, when glass
breaks and mixes in with the newspaper, it prevents the newspaper from being recycled because
it is difficult to get the glass out of the paper and it breaks the equipment.
City Administrator Klaers noted that with the current hauler, Eureka Recycling, everything
they take is 100% recycled. As far as cost, he thinks the best price will come from renegotiating
the current contract rather than going out for RFP's.
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Mayor Grant stated that at $1.88 per month per household, he felt that Eureka Recycling's fees
were reasonable.
Councilmember Tamble noted that he has no complaints about Eureka Recycling. The proof is
in the average revenue share per month as to how much we are recycling in the City. If we
maintain the same path, we will likely see $20,000 in revenue for the City, and he likes the idea
of the dividend. He does not see a point in seeking out RFP's.
Councilmember Werner noted that his experience with Eureka Recycling has not been positive.
He used to put out aluminum cans in plastic bags, and Eureka would not take it because of the
plastic bag. Also, for years, he would put his recycling in a regular garbage can until he received
a note stating that the container was too large.
Mayor Grant stated that Eureka Recycling recycles 100% of what he puts out and he likes that.
He said that something to note with single sort is that a bin that is roughly the size of a regular
garbage container is used for recycling materials. He said that complaints are already received
from residents regarding neighbors that do not screen in their garbage cans. If we give residents
another large can it will exacerbate the problem. Also, if the recycler doesn't like the mixture of
recyclables, they will take the load to the dump. The cottage cheese containers that people get
upset about Eureka Recycling not accepting is far less waste in the landfill than a whole garbage
truck of recyclables that are rejected and placed in the dump. For these reasons, added to the fact
that Eureka Recycling is lower in price than the other haulers, makes him lean toward keeping
Eureka Recycling.
Councilmember Holden noted that if we negotiate a contract with Eureka Recycling, maybe we
can add more educational stuff within the contract.
Councilmember Holmes questioned if Eureka Recycling is the lowest priced.
City Planner Beekman explained that Foth Infrastructure & Environment, LLC completed an
analysis of recycling haulers. She cautioned that it is difficult to compare contract-to-contract
simply by looking at cost per household because some contain processing fees, some have
revenue shares, and some have fuel surcharges that are not included in the per monthly household
cost and are billed separately. We are on the low end price-wise compared to other cities, and
that speaks highly of our contract with Eureka Recycling because of the relative small size of the
community. She stated that increasing education is a priority of hers, which also includes
offering more information about revenue sharing. She is interested in the Council's feelings
regarding broadening the program to include multi-family properties.
Mayor Grant stated that he is in favor of more people recycling because it is more
environmentally conscientious.
Councilmember Holden stated that she thought that some multi-family properties already had
their own recycling haulers, so she would be concerned about"stepping on toes".
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City Planner Beekman explained that the ordinance states that the City will provide curbside
recycling services to single family households and townhome communities. Multi-family
communities such as Arden Manor, Hunters Park, Park Shore, and Cottage Villas supply their
own recycling services. She noted that Ramsey County is encouraging all multi-family
properties to use the same recycling hauler as the single family properties in an effort to better
track recycling statistics. When other multi-family communities recycle independently, it is
harder for the County to track those numbers.
Councilmember Holden stated that she is cautious of asking those multi-family communities to
switch haulers because if they are happy with their recycling services, she does not want to force
the issue.
The Council consensus is to negotiate an extension of the existing contract with Eureka
Recycling for residential curbside recycling services.
B. City Attorney RFP Update
City Administrator Klaers stated that earlier in the evening, the Council had an opportunity to
meet Mr. Patrick Kelly and Mr. Chad Lemmons, the partners of the Kelly & Lemmons law firm
that City Attorney Jerry Filla joined. He indicated that the City is pursuing going out for RFP for
legal services. He stated that he has met with individuals from the three law firms that the City
would be seeking RFP's from for legal services. He met with Mr. Kelly and Mr. Lemmons, Mr.
Joel Jamnik from Campbell Knutson, and Mr. Michael Norton from Kennedy& Graven.
City Administrator Klaers noted that in August, City Attorney Jerry Filla brought out most of
the partners from Kelly & Lemmons. At that time, he learned about their prosecuting team,
which consists of Mr. Kevin Beck and Mr. Joseph Kelly, who is the son of Patrick Kelly. He
stated that he thinks Kelly& Lemmons really shines with regard to their prosecuting services.
City Administrator Klaers explained that Mr. Filla has been providing prosecution services at
$75 per hour, and no qualified firm can match that price. He discussed with Kelly & Lemmons
that if they could commit to continue with the $75 per hour, he would recommend to the Council
that we not seek an RFP for prosecuting services. Kelly & Lemmons agreed on that price in a
letter dated September 24, 2012. Therefore, it is his recommendation to modify the RFP
approach and only go out for general civil municipal services, and seek RFP's from only these
three firms. He stated that if we are not happy with the three proposals, we can go out for a few
others. However, he is convinced that any of these three could serve our needs.
City Administrator Klaers stated that another item to discuss is the selection committee. Staff
is comfortable with either taking the lead role or having the Council take an active role in the
selection.
The consensus among the Council is for City staff to act as the selection committee once the RFP
proposals are submitted.
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Additionally, the Council consensus is to accept the proposal from Kelly & Lemmons for their
prosecuting services proposal and to put it on the consent agenda for the October 8, 2012 City
Council meeting for formal approval.
ADJOURN
Mayor Grran�t- adjourned the Closed City Council Work Ses 'on meeti at 9:26 p.m.
Patrick Klaers David Grant
City Administrator Mayor
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Request for Special Meeting
A special meeting may be called by the Committee, Commission, or Authority Chair or by any two
Committee, Commission, or Authority Members.
Reason for meeting: Discuss Recycling Contract and City Attorney RFP Proposal
Requested Date: 09/24/12 Requested time: Immediately following Regular City Council meeting
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Date received: 09/17/12
Date meeting to be held: 09/24/12 Time of meeting: Immediately following Regular City Council
Meeting
Location: Council Chambers, City Hall
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