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Approved: October 14, 2013
CITY OF ARDEN HILLS,MINNESOTA
CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION MEETING
AUGUST 19,2013
5:00 P.M. - ARDEN HILLS CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, Mayor Grant called to order the City Council work
session meeting at 5:03 p.m.
Present: Mayor David Grant; Councilmembers Brenda Holden, Fran Holmes, and
Ed Werner
Absent: Councilmember Dave McClung
Also present: City Administrator Patrick Klaers; Director of Finance and Administrative
Services Sue Iverson; Public Works Director Terry Maurer; Community Development
Director Jill Hutmacher; Community Development Intern Matthew Bachler; City Planner
Ryan Streff; Parks and Recreation Manager Michelle Olson; and Deputy Clerk Amy Died
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
The Council accepted the agenda as presented.
1. AGENDA ITEMS
Due to the fact that not all of the representatives for the TCAAP Redevelopment Partnership
discussion are present at this time, Agenda Item B 2014 Fee Schedule, will be discussed first.
B. 2014 Fee Schedule
Deputy Clerk Dietl explained that the Council annually establishes a fee schedule for
administrative, building construction, liquor licensing, copying of maps and ordinances, park and
recreation facility usage, planning and zoning, utilities, business licenses, false alarms, utility fees,
and other miscellaneous permits and penalties that are enforced by the City. Staff reviewed the
current fee schedule in detail with the Council along with the proposed changes for 2014. Staff
requested the Council discuss the proposed fee schedule and provide staff with further direction.
Councilmember Holden understood that the City's attorney fees are going to increase. She
asked if this increase is reflected in the fee schedule.
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Discussion ensued regarding escrow accounts that cover legal expenses for development projects
and a recent dangerous dog situation that required legal assistance.
Director of Finance and Administrative Services Iverson stated that legal expenses are passed
along to residents and developers when allowable. The dangerous dog issue is an example where
the City is required to address certain situations and is obligated to pay its own legal expenses to
enforce the City ordinances or regulations.
Councilmember Holmes noted that when possible, she wanted to see the increase in attorney fees
reflected in the City's fee schedule.
Councilmember Holden requested that staff research whether field and irrigation expenses and
room rental expenses are adequately being covered and accounted for in the proposed fee
schedule.
Parks and Recreation Manager Olson stated that the proposed fees do cover the City's costs.
Councilmember Holden questioned if the refuse hauler permit covered the City's expenses. She
requested that staff investigate this further and report back to Council.
Director of Finance and Administrative Services Iverson stated that the fee for refuse haulers
was established to cover the yearly expense incurred for an administrative background check.
The Council asked for more information on the refuse hauler requirements.
Mayor Grant discussed the local gambling tax and questioned what amount the City is
authorized to collect.
Deputy Clerk Dietl indicated that City Ordinance states that the City tax shall not exceed 3% of
gross receipts.
The Council recommended that the 3% local gambling tax be included in the fee schedule.
Mayor Grant reviewed the utility rates and expressed concern with the billing rate language.
Director of Finance and Administrative Services Iverson discussed the language in detail with
the Council, and appropriate per gallon language was decided upon.
Councilmember Holmes inquired if staff would be recovering the City's expenses for TCAAP.
City Administrator Klaers stated that the TCAAP expenses will be further analyzed by staff and
this topic can be discussed at the next budget work session.
Councilmember Holmes discussed the use of City picnic shelters and inquired why a $50 fee is
charged to residents. She recommended that the fee be waived for preapproved neighborhood
groups and National Night Out events.
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Further discussion ensued regarding the park fees.
Public Works Director Maurer suggested staff could follow Councilmember Holmes
recommendation by allowing preapproved neighborhood groups free access to picnic shelters.
Councilmember Holden agreed stating that neighborhood meetings promote a sense of
community.
The Council was in favor of allowing the City's picnic shelters to be free of charge to preapproved
neighborhood groups.
A. TCAAP Redevelopment Partnership
Community Development Director Hutmacher stated that Ramsey County has established a
TCAAP Redevelopment Partnership (TRP) to educate the public and build support for the project
and the legislative funding request. The TRP is not a formal or legal entity such as the Joint
Development Authority (JDA). The TRP consists of organizations that have a common goal—the
successful redevelopment of the TCAAP site. TRP members include Ramsey County, the City of
Arden Hills, the Mounds View School District, and the St. Paul Chamber of Commerce (SPACC).
It is anticipated that other municipalities and entities will join the TRP as the project moves
forward. She explained that representatives from the Chamber of Commerce and Ramsey County
were present this evening to address the Council.
Heather Worthington, Deputy Ramsey County Manager, discussed the TRP further with the
Council. She noted that the TRP will address the broader issues regarding the TCAAP
redevelopment. She explained that the City Managers in the County see the benefits of this
project and have been kept apprised of the latest happenings at the site. She thanked the Council
for their time this evening and noted that she was present to take questions or comments from the
Council.
Mayor Grant requested further information regarding the learning center.
Ms. Worthington commented that the learning center will be a joint effort between the St. Paul
Area Chamber of Commerce and the County, in addition to contractors and vendors working
onsite. The learning center will be a construction trailer that could move around the site and will
serve as a mobile classroom for the Mounds View School District. The classes provided from the
trailer will have real-world experiences.
Councilmember Holden expressed frustration with the lines of communication between the City
and the County. She wants to see that communication improves throughout the redevelopment
process.
Ms. Worthington stated that the County will continue to work on this to improve the partnership
between the City and the County.
Councilmember Holmes asked if the surrounding communities will take part in the planning
process.
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Ms. Worthington explained that the surrounding communities have a deep interest in the
TCAAP project and will be kept apprised of the redevelopment plans.
City Administrator Klaers requested further information on the $35 million bonding bill.
Matt Kramer, President of the St. Paul Area Chamber of Commerce, stated that the Chamber is
working to educate the County and business partners to leverage the legislature to gain support on
the bonding for this project. He stated that the redevelopment offered future jobs and tax base
growth, among other things. He explained that by bringing partners together upfront on this
project,the entire community will benefit.
Mayor Grant asked who will be handling correspondence for the TRP.
Ms. Worthington explained that this will be conducted by the Chamber of Commerce as the
Chamber is taking the lead role with TRP.
The Council thanked the representatives for the information presented this evening.
The Council took a five minute recess.
C. Bethel University Discussion
City Planner Streff explained that Bethel University has submitted a letter of intent to purchase
the entire Country Financial property located at 2 Pine Tree Drive. Their objective is to purchase
the building, and as leases expire, to fully occupy the structure within 5 to 15 years. During this
time, Bethel University will slowly expand their higher education uses, including administrative
officers, general and specialized classrooms, meeting rooms and other general educational uses
into the space. As part of their due diligence prior to purchasing the site, Bethel University
intends to apply for a conditional use permit that will allow the entire site to be converted to
educational use.
City Planner Streff commented that the Country Financial property is currently a multi-tenant
building and is approximately 200,000 square feet in size on two tracts of land that total 40.68
acres. The property is located within the B2 Zoning District, where higher education uses are
allowed by a conditional use permit.
City Planner Streff indicated that in June 2013, the Council approved CUP #13-008 to allow a
higher educational use within the Country Financial building. The approval granted Bethel
University the ability to occupy approximately 26,000 square feet of space in the building, and
required Bethel University to seek City approval for any expansion or intensification of the use.
He noted that representatives from Bethel University are present this evening for comments or
questions. Staff requested that the Council discuss the consolidation of uses and other buildings
used by Bethel University along with the safe connections that could be created between the two
campuses.
Kathleen Nelson, Senior Vice President for Finance and Administration at Bethel University,
thanked the Council for their time this evening. She reviewed the previous request from Bethel
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University regarding the Country Financial building. She appreciated the City's willingness to
have another conversation regarding this building and the proposed use by Bethel University. She
presented the Council with a handout and then discussed Bethel's campus master plan.
Ms. Nelson stated that the campus's current limiting factor is size as it is physically constrained
on all boundaries. She explained how the continuing adult/professional studies programs are
expanding and will need to move off campus. She noted that the original intent with the Country
Financial space was to move Bethel's offices (currently located on Red Fox Road) into the
building along with the new Physician's Assistant program.
Ms. Nelson explained that after the original CUP approval, Bethel received new information
regarding the fact that Country Financial was interested in selling their building before year end.
This led Bethel to completely change their approach to the space. Bethel is now interested in
purchasing the entire site to allow for the reconfiguring of the entire campus master plan.
Ms. Nelson commented that a purchase agreement has been negotiated with Country Financial
and at this time, Bethel plans to proceed with renovating the approved 26,000 square feet of
educational space. However, Bethel is interested in seeking a new conditional use permit that will
allow Bethel to grow and expand into the property over the next 5 to 15 years. She discussed a
potential expansion scenario in further detail. She understood that safety and traffic will be
concerns for the City. She requested feedback from the Council on this proposal.
Mayor Grant requested further information on Bethel's campus master plan.
Ms. Nelson discussed the campus master plan in depth with the Council.
Jay Barnes, President of Bethel University, provided comment on the growth in the adult
programs noting that the enrollment for traditional students is holding steady at 2,800 students.
He explained that the additional space will allow for Bethel to have space for up to 3,250 students.
It will take a number of years to reach the projected growth numbers.
Councilmember Holden expressed concern with the changing vision for Bethel and their
continued need for additional space in Arden Hills.
Ms. Nelson indicated that Bethel is outgrowing its current campus and is proposing to shift
around administrative offices and classes to benefit the university in the long run. She discussed
how education is evolving along with the changing needs of the seminary and how all of these
things are being taken into consideration through the campus master plan.
Mayor Grant anticipated that the City will need to have additional conversations regarding how
the property will fit into Bethel's master plan for future expansion.
Councilmember Holden stated that Bethel currently rents and owns other property in Arden Hills
off the main campus. She questioned how the other property will be addressed if the Country
Financial property is purchased.
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Ms. Nelson explained that the Bethel Office Center (County Road F building) will be put up for
sale. She noted that there has been no discussion at this time regarding the library property on
County Road E2.
Mr. Barnes commented that the Pine Tree location will make buildings 31 and 34 disappear from
the campus master plan, which will preserve more green space on the campus.
Ms. Nelson added that the proposed parking garages will be eliminated if the Pine Tree location is
purchased by Bethel.
Councilmember Holmes asked what Bethel is proposing for a trail connection. She questioned if
Bethel is willing to contribute to a future trail connection, as this would greatly benefit Bethel's
students.
Ms. Nelson explained that there is a vision to connect to the trail on the west side of the campus.
It would greatly benefit the campus to have a trail connection from Old Highway 10, across
Snelling Avenue and down County Road E. She commented that Bethel would be willing to
contribute to the trail connection.
Councilmember Holden indicated that the City has not budgeted for a trail connection in the
next 10 years. She saw the trail connection to be a safety concern for Bethel's students. It was
her opinion that Bethel would have to bear a significant part of the expense for the trail
connection. She then asked if Bethel was proposing to have any additional ball fields constructed.
Ms. Nelson stated that a multi-purpose turf field is proposed in the campus master plan which will
be used for general recreational sports.
Councilmember Holden recommended a traffic study be completed by Bethel to provide the City
with information on how traffic would be affected if the Country Financial building were
purchased by the college. She then discussed the impact on the City of taking the Country
Financial building off the tax rolls.
Mayor Grant requested further information on the economic impacts Bethel has on the City's
economy.
Ms. Nelson noted that students are buying such things as gas and shopping at local stores, which
brings a great deal of commerce to the City of Arden Hills. In addition, the college offers a
number of cultural events and concerts that are open to the community.
Mayor Grant stated that the Pine Tree proposal has become a game changer for Bethel
University and that the additional space would be a strategic move for the campus.
Councilmember Werner commented that the Country Financial building is currently
underutilized. He discussed how the City was working to revitalize the B2 business district.
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Mayor Grant indicated that the Council may need additional time to process the possibility of
Bethel taking over the Country Financial property. He questioned Bethel's timeline on this
project and what additional feedback Bethel needed from the City.
Ms. Nelson commented that she was looking for reasonable assurances that Bethel would be able
to use the entire site if the building were to be purchased. She understood that Bethel did not have
a fully developed master plan in place, but would still be seeking a conditional use permit beyond
the previously approved 26,000 square feet. She reported that Bethel was hoping to close on the
property by December 15, 2013.
Mayor Grant stated that transportation and public safety are very important to the City. These
issues would have to be considered further by Bethel.
Ms. Nelson explained that Bethel would complete further modeling on the Country Financial site.
Mr. Barnes excused himself from the meeting, as he had another function to speak at. He
thanked the Council for hearing and considering Bethel's request.
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Mayor Grant commented that the Council would continue to think through this proposition
while keeping in mind the plans put in place for the B2 district.
City Administrator Klaers anticipated that the City would have a CUP application in early
September, which would go before the Planning Commission in early October. He indicated that
additional Council discussion would take place at the work session meeting in September.
Ms. Nelson thanked the Council for the feedback provided this evening.
Bob Revoir, Cushman & Wakefield the broker for Country Financial, discussed the value of the
Country Financial property stating the site had dropped from $16 million to $6.25 million; and
negotiations with Bethel were even less. He expected the site to sell for well below the property's
value. He stated that he has leased this space for Country Financial for years and has been
struggling to find a buyer.
Further discussion ensued regarding the Country Financial building sale.
Mayor Grant thanked Mr. Revoir for this information.
D. Gateway Signs
Mayor Grant explained that the first Gateway sign has been completed, and he has received a
great deal of positive feedback. He indicated that the Council planned to complete two additional
gateway signs in 2013. He recommended that the Pantone color of the green used on future signs
be consistent. He questioned how the Council wanted to move forward with these signs.
Councilmember Holmes was in favor of keeping the gateway signs similar.
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Councilmember Holden agreed that the signs should remain the same. She commented that this
would more easily make Arden Hills recognized as a community. She requested further
information from staff on a potential sign at Lexington and County Road 96.
Public Works Director Maurer stated that the Ramsey County GIS map indicated that this
corner is County right-of-way. He explained that the City would have to apply for a County
permit, which would allow the City to use the corner for a gateway sign.
Mayor Grant commented that the corner would need substantial landscaping. He stated that the
scale of the sign may have to be adjusted given the level of traffic at this corner.
City Administrator Klaers indicated that the gateway sign at Lexington and County Road 96
may have to be a 2014 project given the scope of the undertaking.
Community Development Director Hutmacher stated that the Lexington/Highway 96 location
may require both 2013 and 2014 sign funds given the size of the sign location. She commented
that the triangle parcel project cost just over$30,000 and estimated that the proposed location may
cost in excess of$40,000.
Councilmember Holmes questioned why the gateway sign projects were becoming so large. She
stated that this was not the original vision for the City's gateway signs. She is in favor of moving
forward with the original $10,000 gateway signs without the large scale landscaping projects.
The Council further discussed the scope and scale of future gateway sign projects.
Mayor Grant explained that the intersection of Highway 96 and Lexington is a key intersection
in the City. He would like to complete this gateway sign at a larger scale given the traffic at this
intersection. He recommended that the Council not proceed with this project if it is not done well.
Public Works Director Maurer suggested that former Councilmember Nick Tamble discuss this
matter further with the Council at a future meeting. This would allow the Council time to review
the potential scale, size, and cost for a sign at this intersection.
Mayor Grant asked if the Council had a site in mind for a 2013 sign that would not require lights
and irrigation. He suggested the intersection of 35W and County Road E2 be investigated further
by.staff.
Councilmember Holden requested that the intersection of Lexington and County Road D also be
investigated for 2013.
2. COUNCIL COMMENTS AND STAFF UPDATES
Councilmember Holmes asked if the triangle parcel was going to be named as it appeared to
residents to be a park.
Mayor Grant did not feel it was necessary to formally name this parcel as a City park. He
discussed a donation that was made to the triangle parcel from Presbyterian Homes.
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Councilmember Holmes discussed the upcoming State of the City meeting.
Councilmember Holden reported the City had a large number of dead trees that needed to be
removed. She requested staff review this matter further.
ADJOURN
Mayor Grant adjourned the City Council work session meeting at 8:10 p.m.
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