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HomeMy WebLinkAbout84-014� _ ��.�.� � ��o . g`'�`��� v Extract of Minutes of Meeting : . of :City Council . City of Arden Ni11s: Ramsey`County, Minnesota �- Apri1 23, 1984 ,. Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, a regular meeting of the City Council of. the City of Arden Hills, Minnesota, was held in the Ci,ty Hall in said City on Mo.nday, Apri1;23, 1984, at 7:3Q p.m. The following members were present: Mayor Woodburn and Councilmembers Hicks, Rauenhorst, Christiansen and Mulcahy; and 'the following were-absent: None. Also present were Charlotte McNiesh, City Clerk Administrator; `bonald Christoffersen, City Engineer; Donald Lamb, City Treasurer; and Thomas Deans, City Bond Consultant. - MAYOR WOODBURN; Mr. Christoffersen, our Village Engineer, would you explain the project, please. MR. CHRISTOFFERSEN: Thank.,you, Mr. Mayor, Councilmembers, : Lad:ies and Gentlement, this improvement is a sanitary:sewer i.mprove- ment and extension. It serves two different types of situations. 1. The current sewage flow is from the area outlined in : orange-(Lexington Avenue then back to Round Lake; this ' is the lift location, Highway 96,'Highway I-694, 35W). Generally the ma.in sewers in,this whole area outlined drain to the sewer pumping station at this location on_ . Old Nighway 10, nort'h of I-694, which in turn pumps southerly to a sewage system through Arden Hills, and eventually discharges`-into Roseville. This system to the - south is becoming over-taxed. It was not designed for . anything in`the no.rth area. It was set up,for everything : south of I-694, and at the time it was set up, the whole nor:th a.rea drained to the old North Suburban District interceptor. ( ` 2. The secondary need for the sewer:system is on the south i portion of Round Lake and the improvement of that area. ' The proposed improvement includes the instalJation of a sewer (showed transparency of area bordered by I-694, ' 35W, O1d Highway 10, 14:th Street:N.E.). The proposal is io construct this sewer,'beginning at the_sewer pumping - station on O1d Highway 10; to construct it deep e�ough - _ __ � __ to eliminate that pumping ,station; bring it by gravity along Old Highway 10 and along the vicinity (not exactly located but schematically) located in a westerly direction, just north of the freeway, around by the railroad crossing and cross over into New Brighton. The Metropolitan ,interceptor is proposed to be extended from somewhere by (�� the railroad bridge to the west of 35W; there's a large New Brighton interceptor at that poin,t; hletropolitan Sewer Board proposes to extend that 'interceptor over to Arden HiT1s so_this connecti_on can be made, that, has not been done at this time. The.Metropolitan Sewer'Commission proposes to do that as soon as Arden Hi11s gets this particular program under way. There is a need for it because there are problems with the downstream flows. We are talking about constructing an 18" sanitary sewer deep enough to eliminate that particular lift station. I have two schemat:ic alternatives; showing where there might be benefitted property.: This drawing illustrates an alignment extending the sewer south on Old l0, then extending west along the north side of I-69� and back up into New Brighton; the dotted a�ea is what we are showing as front footage assessment which is set back 200'; beyond the 200' would be an area assessment.' This dotted area would not be charged on an area basis, just a front foot basis. This area has been assessed before`, in fact; portions of all of this area have been assessed. This area has been assessed for a previous improvement for a frontage and an acreage; some of __ - - — these properties have been charged acreage in the back. There is a corlsideration to have assessment on acreage for the' unsewered areas. The unsewered areas, on an acreage basis; I have outlined - the dashed outline there may be some additional areas of area assessment back in this location.' It depend's on what is desired as far as extension of area improvement.' This is just another illustration, changing the alignment of the sewer slightly on the easterly end, rather that coming clear down to the.north side of the freeway. There is a proper.ty line about mid-way'between the lift station and the freeway; placing the sewer next to the`existing water; if placed in this location, ' it would be doubTe-sided frontage (200' on one side'and 200' on the other times the length). From that point it would probably still drop back to this lower area along the freeway. This particular project is expensive by itself and maybe exceeds benefits; of course that would have to be "determined. It's �' an 18" sanitary sewer trunk 1in'e. I mentioned it is rather deep. In the location where it is extremely deep; rather than have the ': abutting property owners have to dig down 40'± to get into the sewer we would`put manholes in strategic locations and put drap t,_,' sections in the'manholes; so, you would not have to dig quite as � deep`to make a connection. , 'Your honor, I believe that completes my portion of the presentation. 2 � _ F � 4 . .. . . . . . . . . 7 . . . . . � � .. � . . . � . .. �.._ � . . � . � . . . . � MAYOR WOODBURN:`- O.K., Mr: Deans is Mere tonight, our Bond `Counsel. Mr. Deans, w�u1d you like to explain some of the financing possibilities. MR. DEANS: Mr. Mayor and members of the Council, first of ' - all this project would be, it is my understanding, built next year. It would be built and assessed next year. The bond issue would be sold next year, tonight is not the assessment hearing. Ifi bonds were sold, it has typically been the City's policy'to charge 1% above the rate on the bonds for the assessments to the extent'that that is within the usury 1aw. Under Alternate 1, which was the proposal with a single side assessment footage would be approximately 3500' to be assessed; if assessed at $35/ft. that would be $122,500. There is apparently 35 acres that would be available for an area assessment - that 'would raise about $28,000; total assessment of $150;500. Under Alternate 2, there is apparently 4300 feet that could ° be assessed at $35/foot ($4300) and 35 acres that would raise $28,000; total assessment of $178,500. If all that property were able to be assessed, that would be within the 20`6 of the total cost of either one of these projects. Total cost of al't'ernate 1 is estimated at this time at $548,040. ` Alternate 2 is a little bit more expensive; is estimated at $579,570. . It does not appear, unless you went to a much higher per foot level of assessment. For instance, look back at the Ja,nuary 27th memo, if sti11 fiave that in your files, in alternate #1 you would ' have to be assessing that 3500 feet at $124/foot to get it up to actually pay for most-of that project. For assessment of 100� for Alternate #2 you'd have to be assessing 4300 feet at $108.22jft. ! to get you to the total of the'project. There is money coming in from the City in either one because of the park land in th`e area. This was based on your 19�1 policy of paying 80%. Obv'iously you cannot assess the property more than it is'benefitted: As I understand it in Alternate #2, part of the sewer runs through some swamp. I don't know !how developable that'swamp is. That would be determined either by the Cou;ncil or ... b1R. CHRISTOFFERSEPJ: Regarding that swamp, the drawings I have illt�strated on the board, and in the comp'utations, the : footage through the swamp was included. MAYOR WOODBURN: And tfie potential park footage too? MR. CHRISTOffERSEN: That's right. - MAYOR WOODaURN: Mrs. McNiesh, were there any written comments? MRS. MCNIESH: None, your honor. 3 � MAYOR WOOUBURN: We'11 open the meeting then to anyone who wishes to comment on the proposal. Is there anyone here that .. Yes, sir. Wil1 you please identify yourself for the record and� make your comments. GEORGE WINIECKI: I live at 4175 Highway 10. I am the Admin- -� istrator. I represent 14 owners in that property, myself being � one. That is.the'bottom section on Mr. Christoffersen's:graPh. �It appears it's going to affect the pric.e of property that I am involved dramatically, either proposal. I guess the-thing I.am concerned about is , I look at the concern of this thing as being "Is it needed right now?" and obviously it appears we'11 be assessed for this thing, but the Village, in general, is getting a lot of benefit out of this.thing, and I'm concerned as far as we being assessed for the gain of other people. I mean, I can under- stand asses.sments coming through and we getti,ng a gain from it, but a fair gain is what I'm looking at, �hat's my biggest concern. Also, I wish to speak on behaif an_.Joe Bussard._ I_.believe he lives at�4335 01d-Nigh.way 1Q. He talked to me today. He couldn't be here because he has a severe cold and:he has the adjacent:pro- : : perty to the piece of property I live on. He is tota1ly against the ;proj<ect al together. 1' m;not real ly sol d on i t mysel f yet. I' d :like :to talk to Mr. Christoffersen a little bit more-about it. Joe really wants to make,sure the Gouncil is aware that he is not in favor of it a.t a11. He is not too happy with it. That's all I have for now. _ . MAYDR IJOOD,EURN: Thank you.. Any other ,., JIh1 4dINIECK•I: 4471 Highway 10, I guess what I want to knoa� f i rst' i s, what i s'the do11 ar cost? The second thi ng; i s,; i s there another alternat.ive? We just went.through the water assessment. We just got through with the water in front.of o-ur house, bei:ng assessed for that. We don't e;ven have the water, and we,paid for : that. 4�hen i:n th.e hell is it g;oing ta end?: It seems like one thing on top of another.. Now,:another $580,OOD praject.- I don't know. Sometim;es :it is just bey;ond me. : MAYDR WOODBURN: I think: we'11 have some comments on some of the items brought up; perha;ps as we go along, a little later. At - the present time,:are there any other comments from the audience, _ � from the people here? _ JEANNE 4JINIECKI:. 4471 Highway 10. I don`t think I'm exactly clear on where the need came:from. We are all served by sewer now. - Does the need come from the rest of the developments. Are the new developemen�s the cause of this need. - : � MR. CHRISTOFFERSEN: Sha1-1 I answer that? - 4 � � � . . � F , MAYOR WOODBURN: I don't know how many cvmments we'11 get; we can answer them as we go along. If we get a lot of them, I think maybe we.ca:n answer them as we go along. We have: = don't need it now , �, - wFien wi 11 assessments stop? - have water we're not using - question about Bussard property development - now, Mrs. Winiecki's question Why don't you go ahead with :those, Mr. Christoffersen. MR. CHRISTOFFERSEN: Mrs. Winiecki's question. There is a need because of sewers downstream. Yes, they are becoming over- loaded because of the developments north of the freeway. The : sewers south of the freeway were not designed to serve the area : to"the north of �he freeway. At the time the sewers to the south were designed, it was planned to take the sewage from the no.rth to the North Suburban Sanitary District. Also ta include the arsenal. The negotiations that Council made in the past, apparently to go in that direction, fell through;:consequently, at,one time they determined to go south again; take it south through the lower -capacity sewers, and then re-build them when the time came that the : o�ter-sized sewers we:re needed. An investigation was done some .time later, and it was determined, and also during t.he Comprehensive : . P1an Studies completed in the early 80's; New Bri:ghton:has a 42" interceptor not too far away that has excess capacity that can carry` - everything from the north portion of Arden Hi11s. We made an .inxestigation a:nd found 7t more economical to p:ut in the sewe.r as _proposed to New Brighton, than to build new sewer all the way down ta Ros-eville. I hope that explains the need, you have be.en on ; sewer I believe for some time; you live on Round:Lake ; you were assessed for sewer in that area in Improvement 12 and 13; when 12 and :13 was built, we also put in the pumping stat.ion and the force main to the south, : MAYOR WOODBURN: May I add to that . Th;is spring we had a rather mild melt of course, of snow. Even�as mild as it was, we had sewage overflow out of some of our manholes down south because of what was coming in from the north; not,far south of where you are. JEANNE WINIECKI: In other words; then, it would benefit the entire community; cause is because of over- developmen,t for the �' sewer lines that affects the south... (inaudible) :seems irrational... MAYOR WOODBURN: That matter was considered_by;the Council... (inaudi,ble) Lets go back to the first question. I guess ybu have: cove:red the need. I frankly don't know'how to answer where does it � stop. I don't know when it ever stops. It seems it never seems to stop. JIM WINIECKI: I don't know.- It does seem like that• We'�re going to pay the brunt on each end. : 5 _ 1 I ' I _ . _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ;_, _r_ � r ; JEAN WINIECKI: Another concern i:s the arsenal wanting City I!� water. Is that going:to be another thing th�t will affect our _ neighborhood`becaus•e'of our proximity to the arsenal. �' MAYOR WOODBURN: = No, it won't be; k�orry not. That one you won't pay for. In fact, you only:can`benefit if it would go throug7''� in your costs, but that's a discussion a little'later tonight. Anything else for th`e moment, Mr.'Christoffersen? MR. CHRISTOFFERSEN: As far as the question, How much? I'm ' not Prepared to say how much because the decision hasn't been made. I think Mr. Deans went through the general rates that might be looked at, and>I alluded to the portions that probably would not ' be re a`ssessed. Actually, there are areas along Highway IO at least' the first 200' along Highway 10 that were previously assessed for sewer on a front footage basis'that would probably'not be considered" agai`n as an assessment. It would be the property'more remote from ; the 200', the interior portian, that would be assessed. I`don't � .really know-what the'footage'would be. JEANNE WINIECKI: How would that be assessed front footage when its just acreage? MR. CHRISTOFFERSEN�� The land adjacent to the sewer would be �' 'considered the front #ootage - the`200' adjacent to the sewer 1ine; this°area would receive service; property wi11 be closer to'this ; main 1ine. _ _ __ _ , . _ _ _ _ _ I . GEORGE WINIE'C`KI:" I guess:'I'm talking to Mr. Christoffersen '. on those two diagrams.'`(inaudible) It appears that the property ' at 4175 wi11 bear a bulk of the assessment.'` I`t's my feeling that ' possibly'the Council is aware of some things`, down tfiewe tha�t this �'I property'may.`.. sooner or later it's going to develop. I think �, something will happen on it in the not too 'near future.` Is the �, location of thiS sewer line where it should be?` Obviously, you have ; ' to look at the proximity of things down there. Are the areas '' , chosen the best choice. MR. GHRISTOFFERSEN: There are two alternate locations t`hat � we looked at - aTong the watermain 1ine, the northerly one along the north of your property. That was a difficult dec7sion when we pu't the water line'in. It was felt by the adjacent property owners that th`ere might be a road in that general location, ! possibly extended through to 14ih Street to 'make a connection. � That is one location. The southerly one you notice`on the draw- i ing, is the one along`the freeway following the most shallow land i that we could �o get around. Obviously:, if the program were - ; undertaken, it' would be in the` best efforts to find out from the property owners their best guess as to where to put the'1ine: � ', Obviovsly, we would not want to put it right through a building ' we would want to locate it where it's most practical. I think I we're looking at, on the northerly side of your particular pro- , perty that's the deepest, I be1ieve, and as you'`come down it '� probably falls off to the south. It gets shallower.and shallower. i : 6 ' _ _ . _ . , .�. __ , I � _ , . i' - � It's the shallowest at the south end of your property. As far as individual property, if it can possibly be worked out, I think it would be the intention and desire to fit into that. � GEORGE WINIECKI: A1ong the southerly edge, granted, it - would be easier for them to put it in, but again all the burden ` of the assessmen� is pushed over on that piece of property. I guess what I want made clear is that the north is gaining from something on that's going to the southern part of the Village. You've got to be fair in what the costs should be to the property owners. MAYOR WOODBURN: I can assure you that fair_is what we want to be. I know you don't mean that we aren't, but none-the-less that too is why we are listening here, to see what can be done,� MR. CHRISTOFfERSEN: There is obviously a two-sided frontage on the north; there is only one-sided on the south. In either case the frpntage would be essentially assessed against your property. I suspect.it would be about the same, whether it is at the north flr the south. Obviously, the total cost of the improvement has someth,ing to do with the rate. - GEORGE.WINIECKI: I'm looking at too - you have two big easements running down that,north and south lines:of �he property. MR.`CHRISTOFFERSEN: As.I recall, there is a 20' easement on the north. � � GEORGE WINIECKI: Right down the center, l0 on each side. MR. CHRISTOFFERSEN: If there were something built to the sou,th, and the sewer was eonstructed to the south, T would assume that there wo:uld be a 20' - 30' easement over �o that sewer, where- ever it might be. GEORGE WINIECKI,: Is there another alternative? MR. CHRISTOFFERSEN: Pdot that I know of. Like I say we did investigate going to the south.� There was the other alternative of leaving the lift station and constructing less shallow sewers, pumping across tfie other direction to the west, but by the time you put sewers and feeding back gravity se.wers to get back to the lift station, the lift station operation over a period of time it - was found to be more economical to spend the capital up front and get rid of the long-time operation of the one lift station because they are expensive to operate. �; MAYOR WOODBURN: The Council has been working on this with � Mr. Ghristoffersen 3 to 5 years, I think; it feels 1ike. I don't know exactly how 1ong, but we have had many reports on it and finally ordered the feasibi1ity study on this north section be- cause it turned out to be the best - cheapest. Any further comments? _ 7 `: I'm goir�g to leave`the floor open for comments #or"awhile, II instead of closing to comments. My recollectfiofl of Arden Hill�ites I is that they always come up witfi some more ideas; so�we'11 leave I it open. We'11 go to the Council for any questions ow comments. ; ` The proposal to be looked at tonight, if it's not held over, � is to order the improvement. It would not be constructed nor would � � it be`assessed for some length of time, and the figures that'you j heard mentioned tonight are not`the assessment figures, and may not be real at all. There�may;not`even be an assessment if that � is legally possible, for sure, but we do have to present what � seemed to be the worst case figures on something like this. It's � nece'ssary, legally necessary in a 429 procedure, in essence. '� , ' , _ 'GOUNCILWOMAN RAUENHORST: 'I have'a question re concerns about , tfie areas to be assessed. It was my position that we should be ��I _ sending public notices to a`larger'group of homes.and property owners than we haVe.' Are we precluded from assessing a larger a,rea - aft.er tonight, we cann.ot expand the assessment area; if we order'#h'e improvement, it`is based on this assessment area. ; MAYOR WOODBIiRN: It can be expanded with another public hearing. The audience shou}d know that that was a very strong, in ' fact the Council'took a pasition that the whole north ar'ea should j get notices of an assessment hearing because they might be assessed.: There were several factors that mitigated against that and there I was a reversal of the Council'`s opi'nion at the next meeting. I ; think it seemed perfectly logical to many of us to assess the ' whole area with a small asse,ssment - the area that was contributing ' toward the drainage, but i`t doesn't seem too logical'to the courts �� apparently. They threw out that kind of assessment to houses that :, already had benefit.' In o`ther`words, they have sewer n'ow; so, ! they aren't benefitted by sewer eve'n if the"sewer is too smal`1, �i they can sti1T fl'ush it and it may run'over downstream; so, � sewere,d property cannot be assessed, if the Duluth case is applicable, and apparently it is. This is one of the things we've , been over.' Of course the buTk of this, no matter which way you cut �� it, is going on general taxes,"not on the home owners; although individual home owners could see an assessment,'individual property owners ra`ther, not orr the home'owners. ` ''; (NAME INAUDiBLE): Am I understanding you correctly'that ; according to the Dulutfi case, or whatever it is, none of the people � I to °the north 'coul d` be taxed? MAYOR WOObBURtJ: No, - assessed. - � (PJAME INAUDIBLE): Assessed. Excuse me, but its possibly going , to go on the general taxes: �,; { _ _ i MAYOR WOOD6URPJ: The houses that now `have sewer the°'court says, ' it would be very difficult to prove their benefit, when they`have I sewer already, and, as such, they threw`out the ass'essment on ' sewered houses. fven though it was a case similar to this where � _ � 8 : � _ _ _ _. v;., the sewer was inadequate, none-the-less, they got rid�of it off their property; therefore.b�nefit was difficult to shpw. Taxes can be Village-wide; would be Village-wide. Mrs.Winiecki. JEANNE WINIECKI; How do you justify an assessment �hrough �-�, the swamp that is supposed to be set aside for park dedication? and under the tower? MAYOR WOODBURN: The people owning the tower agreed to any assessments, in writing. The Countil saw`to that; so, they'd be paying part that otherwise would be going on taxes. Mr. Winiecki. JIM WINIECKI: These people up north that won't be assessed. How did we get an assessment for the water when we don't:have it? MAYOR WOODBURN: You were assessed for the main, not an assessment for water service to your house; service to your house could be another assessment. It's the same as happened in other parts of the Village - a large main comes'in - one area is not ready for water, but the main has to be paid for, and you have to have it - let's assume you do; so the whole area is served by a main and is assessed,for the main; and later on there may be an assessment on your street if water came'down there to serve you direc�ly. That is routine. _ JEANNE WINIECKI: How does that differ from tfie sewer that we are talking about? MAYOR WOODBURN: I'm doing an awful lot of talking. i`m ;going to get-Mr. Christoffersen to talk. - . MR. CHRISTOFFERSEN: In this particular case, you were charged an �area charge; obviously the 12" main does not go in front of�your house; to get water to your house, a 6" to 8':` main would fiave to be extended to your property. By putting the 12° main in, it put water - that much closer to your property and the area charge is assessed to get the water closer to you, that's the reasoning behind it. The same thing is applied to the south end of Round Lake in the area we have described. There is a sewer going through, a large sewer. The area immediately adjacent to it, beyond the 200','but within the service area is propased to be assessed. 0nly those areas that would most likely connect diretly to it, not the area, for instance, - say the rendering plant is already connected:to an existing sewer built by New Brighton; that area would not be assessed, because it would receive no benefit.: There is some : area to the west, or to the east, that is remote from the sewer, and those properties along I-694 are away from the sewer, but are sti11 closer to the sewer 1ine, and the:sewer is deep enough to � where little short prices can get it to them. While now, they - have to g'o a long way away. i guess that's the rationale behind the area assessment. 9 � i � Where you draw the line is sometimes based`on judg:ement. For instance, when we were as'sessing water between Snelling and ' Hamline, we brought the water main up Hamline Avenue - where do we assess area? Well, it was relatively easy - we drew the line ; � right down the middle; assessed this half to Hamline and this i . hal f to Snel l i ng. (--,. ,I LEONARD GRUDPJOSKE, 4445 Mighway 10. I don't know if this �! pertains to any thing, but, you indicated some of this`would go on ' the general taxes, for everybody, That would be fine, but how i about Bethel College who continues to add to this problem, but '; doesn't pay taxes. In the first place, they run it down to ' Highway 10 when they shouldn't; -They were supposed to run it toward the freeway when they built: They are half the:problem : right now and they aren't going to pay anything for this - no tax. MAYOR WOODBURN:. I'm not sure which way they'ran it, or i whether it made much of a problem, did it, Don?' increased the _ i probTem? : : MR. CHRISTOFFERSEN: I'm not sure either. I recall there was some switching; that was before my time: I don't recall.. A11 that happened somewhere in the early '70's. I believe the plan for the south area was planned to include the Qethel area. � I don't know whether or not it has been assessed for sewer in the past. It could have been, because you can-assess that kind , of property. I don't'believe i`t goes on taxes; but it can be assessed. We'd have to look:to see. I don't know if it's relevant because the design of the sewer coming up firom that side would take in a large area, or at least a part of that property. . ; ,:f�lAYOR WOODBURN: The major problem:is north of Qethel north I of where i.t drains in, at least,:the ar.ea of overf.low is north of there; north of where it:comes into the system. It's the � I north end eoming down. I suppose there s additive effect:that everything:together. � MR. CHRISTOFFERSEN: To give you an idea, there is a 15"-or : 18° pi'pe, 15":I 'believe, coming up from County Road E2, and ' somewhere along there changes to a 12", does it not? We're talking abowt an 18°:alone to New 6righton; so,<that gives you i an idea of what the filow is, and the problem we have. tf we �, - were to rebuild to the south, we'd have to start out with an 1' 18" and ga parallel and carry it a11 the way to the .south, through � , the ]ift stations. �� : :' � - JEANNE WINIECKI: Is this really the result of poor planning? : �' � � � � � � � � � � � � � '� MR. CHRISTOFFERSEN: I don't know how it would be poor - � planning. Council had good serious negotiations in`the past and ; they apparently fell through. I remember reading one statement '� where the Council was all ready to sign an agreement with the �� arsenal, and they had a catch in the agreement that the arsenal I � had the right to have the City disconnected at any time. Do you remember that, Mrs. McNiesh? � 10 ,, I �: � _ f � _ � . ; MRS. MCNIESH: No. I do-not. That,was before my time. MAYOR'WOODBURN: Well, at all times, there was another sewer planned. There was never a time when some kind of main wasn't . considered, as going to be necessary. : _ � JEANNE WINIECKI: It seems to me then the area that is going to be assessed hasn't caused the need. MAYOR 4JOORBURN: Th.at is often the case. CHRISTOFFERSEN: Let me say this. At the time that all this action was going on, I don't believe that New Brighton sewer was an issue until - I want to say 1975_, that we became aware that it was available for use, and that New Brighton even wanted the City to use it, and by that time the City was committed to a new line to the south. The City was against using it,at that time because New Brighton didn't have enough capacity in that line, according to them - they only had a small amount - they wanted us to use that small�amount:, but not everything. Since Arden Hills was faced with building that whole line to the south, we thought that was the best way to proceed. It was only in 1980 or 1981 that :New Brighton was able to realize that the capacity of that sewer they had barred Arden Hills, far exceeded what they had planned ` on; so, consequently, they came to us and asked us if we could use that additional capacity. TotaL - look back at the whole thing and had:New Brighton been right at the very beginning, that would 'have been the best plan; so, I: think what'we're ending up with is the best plan. MRYOR 6100DBURN; Just a short time more -- if there are.. . are there any comments from any body that hasn't spoken yet? ' DON GROWER: I am a planner and I represent the Naegele Companies and their site, and I guess we're only conce,rned that there be some kind of a fair measure of benefit for assessment against the rroperty. Secondly, we would feel that this is kind of an incentive for us to develop some site plans for the develop- ment of the property and we would like the sewer to follaw a pattern that we would 1ay:out. That's our only comments. MAYOR �lOOD6URN: 4ne more. ; - . �;� JIM WINIECKI: LJhat is the possibility that this project ! could be delayed and new owners consulted. I� MAYOR WOODBURN: That gets to be kind of indefinite, 1ike. the property over here. �i � � JIM WINIECKI: Then, like I said before, we get besieged by i assessments going through us, let's spread this out for more �, people. �I, MAYOR WOODBURN: anything...•one more. , I _ i � 11 - - . . � : . . � � . .. . . - . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . .f . .. . GEORGE WINIECKI: Either one of those plarrs, Plan A or Plan B, I can see the cost-wise of it going on the southern part of it, and I can see the benefits right along-northern part:, because there's already an easement there, but I guess I'm really not:sold on ei�her one right now, and I guess I want to go on record saying that I, living at 4175 HighWay 10, do not want to see it ga an. ( �� MAYOR WOODBURN: Any body that hasn't spoken that would`like to? We'11 close tl�e Public Hearing then at this time (8:20 p.m.). In discussion, Tom Deans was asked if delayed assessments are -feasible. Deans advi:sed that there is no statutary `procedure for delay of assessments, othew than for senior citizens. Deans' e`xplained that if the project is t'o begin next..sprin.g, the"assess- ment hearing would be'scheduled' in August of 1985; noted that at least' $110,000 wou'1d have `to be assessed (20% of $550,000 `total :cost for` A1 ternate` 1) . George Winiecki surmised that deve�l-opment of the Winieck-a and Bussard prop`erties could'occur within the"next year or two. - -Chri stoffersen sai d i t` woul d b'e best to fi t the sewer t`o the needs .' of the properties; if this'were known; feel's the better'plan, at present, is to run the`sewer along`the:existing east/west water- , 'main easement rather`than through the center of either of the properties; noted it would be difficult'for Qussard to use the ' ' sewer to the south along-` I-694. Christoffersen said' tha't the' a] i gnment- of tf�e` sewer wi 11 be needed before fa11 of 19'84 i n order ' to prepare plans'and specifica;tions for adverti'sement for bids in ' the spring of 1985. , ' Planner for Naegele>reported that their property'in the I-694/35W- �i area of Arden Hills is on their list for him to plan or se11`;`noted 1i that Naegele may or may not develop the site themselves. �, Councilmember Rauenhorst then introduced the following resolutiorr I;I and moved its adoption: i :Resoluiion'No. 84-14 E II R SOLUTI ' R ON 0 DERING IMPR EMENT - OV N0. SS-83-6 I > I BE IT RESOLVED by the Council of the City of Arden Hills, Mi nne`sota, t�hat i n accordance wi th `the' provi s i ons of Mi nnesota : Statutes 19b1, Chapter: 429, as amended, 'the' Council he1'd a publ ic -hearing on the proposed construction of Im�rovement No. SS-83-6, consisting of the installation of trunk san'itary sewer and necessary appurtenances from Sewer Pumping Station No.'10 southerly to I-694, then westerly to I-35W, just north of its intersection �; with I-b94,`and then t'o the'Metropolitan Waste Control Gommission Interceptor located near T-35W in N:ew`Brighton, in the'area'as described in the Notice of Hearing, at a cost presently estimated at $580,000, and substantially in accordance with the �reliminary report as to the feasibili'ty thereof which is now o.f fiie in the ; 12 � : z office of the Clerk Administrator; and having considered the views of all interested persons and being fully advised in the premises, ,,the Council does hereby determine the order that said improvement shall be constructed and financed, and special assessments shall be levied. Therefore, pursuant to said Chapter 429, and that the �- area proposed to be assessed therefore shall include the property � as described in the Notice of Hearing. The City Engineer is directed to prepare and submit to the Council the final plans and specifications. . � The motion for the adoption of the foregoing resolution was " duly seconded by Councilmember Hicks, and upon vote being_taken thereon, the following voted in favor thereof: All; and the following voted against the same: None; whereupon said resolution was declared duly passed and adopted. ; ; � _ ; ,; I I � , 1� ,: , , , , : � � � ; ; ; ; , � , _, _ ; , _ � 1 3 . f, �-_ ST,�'�E OF MINNESO'T� ) ) iS CO�u'fVTY OF ��.MS�X ) I, �he undersigned, being� �he �uly qu:�lifi�d aaad aeti.�,� Clerk Ad�n;Lnistraror �af �he Ci�y of Arden i3�.:11�, rlix�neaat�s, do k�ere- by �er�ify tha� I ha�� car�fully comp.�red t,he �ttac�ed and fore- gna��g s�xtrdct of n�inutes of ine�ting of �he Council of �aa3d C i��+ , h e 1 d on� c�,�--�,' 1���-�-' �� i t h �h p s� r 3. g in a 1 th���of on fi1� � my of�::tce, and the saa��: �, � fu11, �rue and c �.��e txanF;c:xigr� �:her�::�rom insofar �s �k:e s�me x�la�ea to �������i� Gy��=G��c.t�� /J%ilJ i�`_�?Z��,CP���A/IX, /7/ai' .� S �3 � . . . - - ---- ---- --_c_..,..__ set�:� of �ai.d C�.ty th3s I�.�'/� d�y o�� _._, �.�_.� 1Q�Sve � SEAI�) �\ / , / / / / � ,� � : .�/. �% .' � �� � � _ 1 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ . _ __ _ __ _____ _ _ _ _ __ _ __ _ __ _ ___ _ _ __ _ ___ _ 1 :� .� � �. �. �_ . _ � . ;, e ��� ,.. . �� � ; .. . � _ ... , ..� � . . , .._ � � _ . _ .�_�_ _ , ... . y . .a � . . . � ;:'h C 1 . ..7 � . . . . . . � . -. , . � . . . , - ��� .. . .f_ t,5 . .. . .b�' . . 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