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Approved: September 12, 2016
CITY OF ARDEN HILLS,MINNESOTA
CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION AND JOINT WORK SESSION
WITH THE JOINT DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY (JDA)
AUGUST 15,2016
5:00 P.M. -ARDEN HILLS CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, Mayor Grant called to order the City Council
Work Session at 5:00 p.m. and Chair Sand called the JDA meeting to order.
Present: Mayor David Grant; Councilmembers Brenda Holden, Fran Holmes, Dave
McClung and Jonathan Wicklund
Present: JDA Members Chair Sand, Commissioners Brenda Holden, David Grant,
Blake Huffman and Raphael Ortega
Absent: None
Also present: Interim City Administrator Sue Iverson; Acting Public Works Director John
Anderson; Senior Planner Matthew Bachler; City Attorney Joel Jamnik; JDA Attorney
Mike Norton; Deputy Clerk Jolene Trauba; Josh Olson, Ramsey County; Heather
Worthington, Ramsey County; Stacie Kvilvang, Ehlers & Associates; Bob l..,ua, Alatus;
Tom Shaver, Inland Development Partners; Kent Carlson, Inland Development Partners;
Todd Stutz, Robert Thomas Homes;Tim Whitman, Whitman Associates Architects; Bruce
Kimmel, Ehlers&Associates; and Beth Engum, Ramsey County
Mayor Grant asked if there were any changes to the agenda.
Councilmember Holden requested County Road 96 and Hamline be discussed, along with the
Venus Neighborhood, County Road E signage, the PMP project and State Fair parking.
MOTION: Councilmember Holden moved and Mayor Grant seconded a motion to
approve the meeting agenda as amended. The motion carried unanimously
MOTION: Chair Sand moved and Commissioner Holden seconded a motion to approve
the JDA meeting agenda. The motion carried unanimously(5-0).
L AGENDA ITEMS
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A. Joint Work Session with JDA and Master Developer
Interim City Administrator/Director of Finance and Administrative Services Iverson stated
the Master Developer had a presentation for the City Council and JDA members.
Stacie Kvilvang, Ehlers & Associates, reviewed the format for the meeting along with a future
timeline for additional discussions regarding the Master Plan for the development.
Bob Lux, Alatus, thanked the JDA and City Council for their time. I Ie explained his presentation
would be broken down into three sections which would cover the commercial, residential and
Town Center areas of the development. He looked forward to the JDA and City Council
providing feedback after each section of the presentation. He reported the Alatus team has been
meeting with City and County staff every Wednesday for the past three months.
Alex Duval, Alatus, stated over the past 90 days a team has been assembled to work on this
project. He explained the focus has been on how to integrate the work being completed by the
three primary groups, Alatus, Tradition and Inland. He then described the work being done by the
design groups under the direction of each of the primary groups. He noted the natural resources
corridor was being studied in order to keep this area special. He provided further comment on the
highlights on the site noting this was one of the largest redevelopment projects in the metro area.
Mr. Lux understood the importance to stitching this new development into existing Arden Hills.
Tom Shaver, Inland Development Partners, noted Alatus would be requesting a TRC
amendment. Ile reported the regional trails surrounding the property were being reviewed by the
Master Developer. Ile commented on the benefits of creating trail connections from the east to
the Natural Resource Corridor. He further discussed the positive amenities on the site. It was
noted Bus Rapid Transit would be explored for the project.
Mr. Lux addressed how Alatus was approaching Town Center. He believed Arden Hills should
consider moving City Hall into the Town Center area. He indicated a library, theater or museum
would also benefit the Town Center area. He anticipated four restaurants would be located in this
area along with convenience or entertainment retail. He stated after completing much research,
there was a need for senior housing and 60 to 120 condominium units, with the condo building
height being eight to ten stories high. It was noted Town Center would have six primary blocks.
The underground parking requirements were discussed.
Further discussion ensued regarding the alignment of the spine road and how this would impact
the flex space.
Mayor Grant requested clarification on the colors within the map.
Mr. Lux reviewed the colors and the legend with the City Council and JDA.
Mr. Shaver discussed how traffic would flow in and out of the property. He noted it would be
difficult for the site at Highway 96 and the entrance to the property to support retail. He described
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where the park and paths would be located within Town Center and pointed out the connections.
The challenges for the site would be to create further connection points from this site to the
remainder of Arden Hills. The plans for the Town Center were reviewed in further detail with the
Council and JDA.
Mayor Grant questioned if the group had feedback at this point.
Mayor Grant believed further discussion would have to be held regarding "best homes" and
"bestjobs".
Councilmember Holden asked which buildings would require a height variance.
Mr. Shaver anticipated this would be for the apartment and condominium buildings in Town
Center. It was noted the condominium building would be done in concrete. Further discussion
ensued regarding the density proposed for Town Center per block.
Councilmember Holden did not believe she would support moving City Hall. She indicated the
current location was very centralized for all Arden Hills residents.
Councilmember Holmes agreed. She discussed the underground parking and expense for the
proposed bridge.
Mr. Shaver discussed the costs associated with the underground parking and proposed bridge
noting these would be long-term solutions for the site. He indicated grants may be available to
assist with the expense.
Ms. Kvilvang stated based on conversations held to date, it appears the underground parking and
bridge would be done privately.
Councilmember Holmes commented on the proposed rental rates and expressed concern with
entrance and exit points for the apartments. She stated she was skeptical about how heavily the
public transportation would be used given the fact this was a suburb. In addition, she was not
convinced the proposed rental rates would be achieved.
Chair Sand understood senior housing would be located in the Town Center and asked how this
would fit into the proposed plans.
Mr. Shaver stated this was a good question as it also addressed traffic and livability of the
community. He commented on a senior housing project that he recently completed in Wayzata. It
was noted the senior housing would have secure underground parking.
Councilmember .McClung indicated overall he liked what he was seeing. He appreciated how
the natural resources corridor would be highlighted. He understood Alatus would be seeking
height flexibility for the condominium buildings. He anticipated this would be for two buildings.
Ile asked if Alatus had any idea how many buildings would be higher than six stories.
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Mr. Shaver reported Alatus was currently thinking of building three buildings over six stories,
two condo buildings and a portion of one apartment building.
Councilmember Wicklund asked for more information on Main Street and whether this roadway
could be made a strictly walking street.
Mr. Shaver commented he would love to be able to make this strictly a walking street. However,
developers favored streets that accommodated vehicular traffic.
Councilmember McClung inquired if the developer had any traffic counts for the theater area.
Mr. Shaver stated this has not been tested yet.
Councilmember Wicklund asked if there were any other connectors, other than bus rapid transit,
that would connect the two areas of the City.
Mr. Shaver commented Alatus was trying to create a connector or touchstone for Arden Hills.
He understood it was hard to consider moving City Hall, however, this would assist with the
major transformation that would be coming to the City.
Councilmember Wicklund supported the relocation of City.Hall.
Mayor Grant commented on how the residents may perceive the movement of City Hall. He
anticipated the City Council would have to further discuss the Town Center plan and the proposed
building heights. He appreciated the proposed concept plan and wanted to hear more about
vertical mixed uses.
.JDA Chair Sand supported the overall plan. He discussed the importance of interconnectivity of
this site to the remainder of Arden Hills. He believed City Hall needed to be connected to the
remainder of the City. He questioned how Alatus would be connecting pedestrians from north
side of Highway 96 to the south side of Highway 96. He suggested the bandshell be located near
the water feature. lle provided further comment on the streetscape.
Councilmember Holden requested further information on the condominium building height.
Mr. Lux commented on the anticipated condominium building height and construction
specifications. He agreed a connection over Highway 96 would be imperative.
Mayor Grant questioned if the geotechnical would support a building of this height.
Mr. Lux discussed the subsurface information he had on the site.
Mayor Grant went on record stating he wanted there to be a water feature on the property and not
just a holding pond.
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Mr. Lux discussed the amount of mass grading that would occur for this complex site. He stated
the water feature was a high priority for his team.
JDA Chair Sand questioned if two entrances and exits would adequately serve the site.
Mr. Lux indicated this was an excellent question. He further commented on the traffic plan that
was completed by Kimley-Horn. He then turned the conversation over to Todd Stutz to address
the residential portion of the project.
Mr. Stutz, Robert Thomas Homes, noted he was working on the Hill and the Creek
neighborhoods as well as the housing within the Town Center. He described the design principle
framework that was laid out within the Master Plan. Ile explained a wide range of housing would
serve a broad spectrum of buyers at all phases in life. This means housing would be considered
for millennials through baby boomers. He understood walkable neighborhoods and trail
connections were important. He discussed numerous housing products that would be provided,
noting he would be responding to the marketplace and proposed to have one-third executive move
up housing, one-third first time buyers and one-third empty nesters. He anticipated the housing
would have a wide range of prices starting at$350,000. The Creek neighborhood would have 140
homes and the Hill neighborhood would have 267 units. He commented on the plans for the
residential area south of the Hill neighborhood.
Mr. Stutz then reviewed the housing plans for Town Center. He described the various housing
products that would be offered, along with the architectural styles that would be used. The
proposed lot sizes were discussed, along with the location of the natural resources corridor.
Further discussion ensued regarding the various housing products.
Councilmember Holden reviewed the City's home count versus Alatus' home count. She asked
if the numbers included space for infrastructure.
Mr. Stutz reported the number of proposed homes did include infrastructure. He noted the
numbers may adjust slightly after the site begins to be graded.
Councilmember Holden questioned in Alatus had a location for the water tower picked out.
Mr. Lux stated this has not been looked at extensively. Ile anticipated it would be located in the
public park in the middle of the site.
Councilmember Holden inquired how much the park space had been reduced by Alatus.
Mr. Stutz explained the parks were smaller and noted there was a certain level of flexibility
written into the TRC regarding the park space.
Councilmember McClung expressed concern with the park deficiency. He stated the original
planning called for park programming given the level of density on the site. He feared that too
much stress would be put on existing Arden Ilills parks if the greenspace within TCAAP was not
reconsidered. He commented that this portion of the plan did not meet his standards.
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Councilmember Wicklund requested further infonnation on where the custom homes would be
placed.
Mr. Stutz commented on the home placement within the Creek neighborhood.
Councilmember Holden questioned who would be building the single-family homes. She asked
how many different home products would be included in the neighborhoods.
Mr. Stutz estimated 50% of the homes would be built by "Traditions and Robert '.Thomas Homes
and the remainder would be built by other builders. He then reviewed the various housing
products that would be offered, noting the housing styles would fit the requirements within the
TRC.
Mr. Shaver discussed the commercial portion of the project. He anticipated the project would
have 200,000 to 250,000 square feet of commercial space with 300,000 to 350,000 square feet of
flex space. He then commented on the corporate campus area. It was noted Alatus wanted to
maintain some level of flexibility within these uses in order to meet the demands of the market. It
was noted a height variance may be requested for the corporate campus. The focus of the retail
node was then reviewed. It was his opinion the flex and build to suit areas were perfectly sized,
along with the retail area.
Commissioner Huffman questioned why the retail area had more surface parking than the '.Town
Center.
Mr. Shaver explained it was the norm for retail areas to have surface parking. He stated the
restaurant area would have surface and underground parking. It was noted that surface parking
offers convenience for customers in the retail area.
Councilmember Holden expressed some concern by allowing a large grocer to come in and take
up such a large portion of the retail space. She feared how this space would be used in the future
if the grocer were to fail.
Councilmember McClung commented on the two dining areas.
Commissioner Huffman questioned how many of the users within the flex space would have
heavy truck traffic. He wanted to see trucks kept out of the vehicular and pedestrian areas.
Mr. Shaver anticipated all of the ilex space users would have some truck traffic. Discussion
shifted to the eight text amendments that Master Developer would be requesting for the project.
Mayor Grant thanked Alatus for their thorough presentation.
JDA Chair Sand believed it was key for the development to have a finished look and feel even
though the property would be completed in several phases.
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Councilmember Holden expressed concern with the proposed density level of the development.
She did not believe the density should be the same as that seen in St. Paul and Minneapolis. She
noted that Arden Hills was a suburb.
Councilmember McClung believed the list of proposed text amendments was helpful. He
looked forward to discussing these further with the Master Developer at the next meeting.
Mayor Grant commented on the original proposed density for the project. 1-le indicated this
matter would have to be further discussed by the City Council, along with the design concepts.
He appreciated the high level of detail that was provided by the developer and looked forward to
reviewing this information in further detail at future meetings. He was hopeful there was time
built into the development plant to allow for further conversations between the City and the
developer.
Mr. Lux stated this was the case. He thanked the City for all of their hard work on the TRC and
Master Plan. He anticipated the developer would need additional flexibility for density. He
commented on how his plans were challenging him to approach this site with 100 year plans and
not just plans for the next 10 to 20 years.
Mayor Grant asked if the developer had received enough input this evening.
Mr. Shaver thanked the Council and JDA for their input. He looked forward to further refining
the plans and discussing this with the City Council again in the near future.
Ms. Kvilvang reviewed the upcoming meeting schedule for the City Council.
JDA Chair Sand reported the JDA would meet next on Tuesday, September 6.
MOTION: Commissioner Grant moved and Commissioner Huffman seconded a motion
to adiourn the JDA meeting. The motion carried unanimously (5-0).
The JDA meeting adjourned at 8:11 p.m.
There was a short recess as the JDA members and Alatus staff excused themselves from the
meeting.
MOTION: Councilmember Holmes moved and Commissioner McClung seconded a
motion to extend the meeting to 9:00 p.m. The motion carried unanimously
(5_0).
B. Higher Education Uses in Industrial Zoning Districts
Senior Planner Baehler explained over the last several years, local universities have shown an
increased interest in using existing buildings in the City's commercial districts for satellite
classroom or administrative facilities. An example of this type of reuse is Bethel University's
purchase of the Country Financial office building for additional classroom space. The purpose of
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this agenda item is to review how the Zoning Code addresses higher educational uses specifically
in the City's industrial districts and to discuss if the City Council supports the current policy
limiting higher education activities in industrial areas.
There are currently four zoning districts primarily designated for industrial uses in the City: I-
Flex, I-1, I-2, and Flex Office. The Zoning Code includes a description of the purpose of each of
these districts. Provided below is a general overview of the location of each district and the types
of businesses in each:
• I-Flex District: Generally located between Dunlap Street and Highway 51, and between I-
694 and the Canadian Pacific railway line. Examples of businesses located in this district
include International Paper, Powder Technology, and lntriCon.
• I-1 District: Generally located between Lexington Avenue and Hamline Avenue, and
between Cummings .Park and 1-694. This district is comprised primarily of the Boston
Scientific and Land O'Lakes corporate campuses.
• I-2 District: Generally located between 1-35 W and Highway 10, north of the Arden Manor
manufactured home park.. Scherer Brothers Lumber Company is the only business located
in this district.
• Flex Office District: Located on the Rice Creek Commons (TCAAP) property on the west
side of the main boulevard and at the southeast corner of the site. There are no businesses
located in this district at this time.
The Zoning Code includes the following definition for higher education schools: Junior colleges,
colleges, and universities approved by the Minnesota Higher Education Coordinating Boards for
the Minnesota Department of Education
Currently, higher education uses are not allowed as a permitted or conditional use in any of the
four industrial zoning districts. Higher education is allowed as a conditional use in the B-1, B-2,
B-4, and Civic Center Districts, and as a PUD in the R-1 District.
Senior Planner Bachler reported colleges and universities are comprised of several different
types of uses, including classrooms, administrative offices, recreational facilities, and residential
dormitories. The Zoning Code includes separate land use classifications for some of these uses,
such as office and residential dormitories, and may treat them ditTerently than the broader, higher
education land use. For example, a college dormitory is a conditional use in the R-4 District, but
higher education schools are not permitted.However,the Zoning Code does not include a separate
category for classroom facilities and this use is grouped with the higher education land use
category.
Senior Planner Bachler stated in order to allow for higher education uses in any of the industrial
zoning districts, a Zoning Code amendment would be required. The City does not have specific
criteria for evaluating proposed 'Zoning Code amendments. However, the following questions
should be considered:
• Is the higher education use compatible with the other uses in the Zoning District?
• Is the higher education use consistent with the purpose of the Zoning District?
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Senior Planner Bachler explained the City Council could choose to allow this use as either a
permitted or conditional use. By requiring a conditional use permit for higher education uses, the
City would have an opportunity to evaluate traffic patterns, parking, and other potential negative
impacts of the use, and to place reasonable conditions on the approval to mitigate the impacts.
Additionally, the City would be able to limit the use to activities that are compatible with the rest
of the zoning district and restrict those uses that are not compatible, such as residential
dormitories.
Staff'is requesting that the City Council provide further direction on this subject by responding to
the following questions:
1. Does the City Council support allowing higher education uses in any of the City's industrial
zoning districts? If so,which ones?
2. Would the City Council like to see higher education uses classified as a permitted use or a
conditional use?
Councilmember Holden believed businesses should be located in industrial districts.
Councilmember McClung agreed.
Councilmember Holmes did not believe that higher education was a compatible use within the
industrial zoning district. It was allowed in the B-4 district awhile back and the City received
numerous complaints due to issues of incompatibility with other uses.
Mayor Grant explained higher education was, a non-intended use in this district. He
recommended staff and the Council consider the proper function and scope for industrial
properties. He then asked why this issue came about.
Senior Planner Bachler stated based on preliminary discussions, a local university was interested
in purchasing the Smiths Medical property in order to create additional classrooms and other
facilities.
Councilmember Wieklund asked if the City has allowed a University or higher education use to
operate in the I-Flex district in the past.
Mayor Grant reported there was a building owned by the Davidson Company in the B-4 district
that Bethel University wanted to use for night classes that was approximately 4,000 square feet.
This building was used for some time,but eventually these facilities were relocated.
Senior Planner Bachler clarified that the Smiths Medical property was located in the City's I-
Flex zoning district.
Councilmember Wieklund questioned if Smiths Medical was a fairly desirable property.
Councilmember Holden believed this to be true.
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Councilmember Wicklund stated his first reaction would be to allow an organization to purchase
a property, even if it was not desirable for higher education, versus the City speculating on the
wisdom of that purchase. Ile thought it should be the purchaser's choice.
Ms. Kvilvang commented on the City's loss of industrial space, the compatibility issue and the
legal standpoint if a higher education were to locate within the I-Flex zoning district. She advised
office and lab space would have a different traffic pattern than the surrounding industrial uses.
City Attorney Jamnik provided further comment on the compatibility of uses.
Councilmember Holden asked if the only question before the Council was if the City wanted to
allow higher education in the Industrial zoning district.
City Attorney Jamnik stated the Council was being asked if higher education could be a
permitted or conditional use in the Industrial zoning district.
Senior Planner Bachler reported the City has not received any formal application at this time.
Councilmember Wicklund recommended the City not begin an uphill battle.
Councilmember McClung and Councilmember Holden were not interested in making any
changes.
Mayor Grant stated the general consensus was to not may any changes at this time.
C. Personnel Committee
Mayor Grant reported the City of Shorewood was in its :final phases of hiring and several
candidates were being pooled in order for the City of Arden Hills to consider. The question
would be if the Council wants to use this pool or also try and recruit additional candidates. The
Personnel Committee was recommending the Council pursue this pool of candidates. He asked
how the City Council wanted to proceed.
Councilmember Holmes believed this made a lot of sense.
Councilmember Holden reported interviews would be held for the customer service rep next
week.
Interim City Administrator Iverson explained staff has narrowed down candidates for the
Public Works Superintendent as well.
D. County Road 96 and Hamline Avenue
Councilmember Holden stated the "No Right Turn on Red" sign has been removed at this
intersection. She indicated she spoke with John Anderson regarding this matter and believed the
sign should be put back in place and the sign be enforced.
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Mayor Grant agreed it was a poor decision for this sign to be removed.
Interim City Administrator Iverson commented she would speak with the County regarding
this matter.
E. Venus Neighborhood
Councilmember Holden was upset that a family in the Venus neighborhood had contacted the
Attorney General's Office because their yards were still unsatisfactory. She recommended the
City get a truck full of black dirt, some grass seed and resolve this situation.
Councilmember Holmes stated it was her understanding the City of Arden Hills and its
contractor had fulfilled the grass replanting requirements. She was uncertain if the City had to do
what Councilmember Holden was suggesting. She understood the Attorney General's office told
the individual there was nothing it could do.
Mayor Grant questioned how many residents were concerned with their yards and the dirt.
Councilmember Holden estimated there were at least 14 families with concerns about their
yards.
Councilmember McClung was of the opinion the City had met the proper planting requirements.
Mayor Grant recommended that the City specify black dirt must be used in the future for all
grass plantings in order to avoid this situation in the future.
F. Election Judges
Councilmember Holden understood the City was in need of election judges for the general
election this November. She recommended that donuts and Subway sandwiches be provided to
election judges as a thank you for their service to the community.
'The Council supported this suggestion.
G. State Fair Parking
Mayor Grant stated he and Councilmember Holden went door to door to speak with residents
regarding State Fair parking concerns. He noted he received one phone call regarding this issue as
well. lie requested the dead end block be posted no parking on both sides of the street.
H. County Road E Signs
Mayor Grant discussed a break away sign that has been hit a number of times along County
Road E. He requested the curb be painted in order to avoid this concern.
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2. COUNCIL COMMENTS AND STAFF UPDATES
Mayor Grant discussed the City's water bills and the number of delinquencies. He questioned if
these delinquencies should be posted on the internet.
Interim City Administrator Iverson explained this information was public data as it was part of
the City Council packet.
Councilmember Holden requested the City follow up with the Goodwill to see if anything would
be done with the windows at night.
Councilmember Holden indicated Arden Hills residents were interested in pickle ball. She also
had a resident request swings in Ingerson Park.
Councilmember McClung wanted to see the "No Right on Red Turn" put back in place at
County Road 96 and 1-Iamline Avenue.
Councilmember Wicklund was interested in learning from the City Council what size and level
of park amenities should be offered in TCAAP. It was his opinion the parks in TCAAP should be
better programmed. He wanted to better understand the City's demand for programmed parks.
Mayor Grant requested staff provide Councilmember Wicklund with this park information.
ADJOURN
Mayor Grant adjourned the City Council Work Session at 8:58 p.m.
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Deputy Clerk Mayor