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Approved: May 11, 2020
CITY OF ARDEN HILLS, MINNESOTA
CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION MEETING
APRIL 20, 2020
5:00 P.M. - ARDEN HILLS CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, Mayor Grant called to order the City Council
Work Session at 5:01 p.m.
Note: On March 20t4, the Mayor signed a determination allowing Councilmembers to participate
in City Council meetings via telephone pursuant to State Statute 13D.021
Present via Telephone: Mayor David Grant, Councilmembers Brenda Holden, Fran
Holmes, Dave McClung and Steve Scott
Absent: None
Also present: City Administrator Dave Perrault, Public Works Director/City Engineer
Todd Blomstrom, Finance Director Gayle Bauman, Community Development
Manager/City Planner Mike Mrosla, Associate Planner Joe Hartmann, Public Works
Superintendent Jeff Frid, Deputy City Clerk Jolene Trauba
Also Present via Telephone: Scott Moe with Launch Properties; Brian Wurdeman with
Kimley Horn and Jordan Horejsi from HRGreen Consultants
Councilmember Holden requested the Council discuss Off -Sale Alcohol Sales prior to the
Council Tracker.
1. AGENDA ITEMS
A. Launch Properties (Pace Site)
Associate Planner Hartmann stated Launch Properties submitted an application for Concept
Plan Review for a proposed grocery store and secondary retail/restaurant business at 3737
Lexington Avenue on the former Pace building site. The property is zoned B-3 Service Business
District and is guided as Commercial use on the 2040 Land Use Plan.
Associate Planner Hartmann explained the property is currently owned by Pace Industries, LLC,
which recently closed their facility. The existing building was used for manufacturing and office
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space. The Subject Property comprises two parcels totaling approximately 2.5 acres. The
Applicant is proposing to remove the existing building. The Applicant is proposing to redevelop
the site on behalf of a national supermarket chain with plans to incorporate a secondary retail or
restaurant use on the parcel closest to Lexington Avenue. Once completed, the Applicant is
proposing to build a 20,000 square foot grocery store on the site and a 3,600 square foot retail
space on the lot. Staff commented further on the proposal and requested feedback from the
Council.
Scott Moe, Launch Properties, thanked the Council for their time. He discussed his site plan in
detail with the Council noting he was proposing to tear down the large building in order to make
way for a large national grocer. He reported the grocer has requested to remain confidential at this
time. He stated the City would be proud to have this business in the community. He discussed
how COVID-19 has impacted this project. It was his hope the project could begin this summer
with the large grocer and an outlot retailer.
Councilmember Holden asked how a high quality national grocer was defined.
Mr. Moe reported he was proposing to bring a high quality national grocery chain into the
community that had a very good reputation.
Councilmember Holden asked if there was anything that the applicant was not asking for a
variance on.
Community Development Manager/City Planner Mrosla reported the applicant would need
setback variances but would be meeting all other City design standard requirements. He
commented further on the proposed setback variances that would be required.
Councilmember Holden inquired if a drive-thru would be necessary.
Mr. Moe anticipated a drive-thru would be required whether a bank or coffee use were to locate
on the retail outlot.
Councilmember Holmes commented on the flexibility requirements that were being requested by
the applicant. She stated this was very concerning to her.
Mr. Moe indicated he was not requesting flexibility on the use or the quality of the tenant. In
addition, he would not be asking for flexibility on the building materials. He stated he was asking
for flexibility on the setbacks and parking requirements. He was of the opinion that the City's
parking requirements were out of context for the grocer market.
Mayor Grant stated the parcel only had so much real estate. He explained the minimum setbacks
have been reduced which gave the developer more parking space. He questioned if the site could
be redesigned to reduce the need for flexibility with setbacks.
Mr. Moe deferred this question to Civil Engineer Brian Wurdeman.
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Brian Wurdeman, Kimley Horn, stated he was proposing to have 131 parking stalls one the site.
He has been told by the grocer that the site should have 80 to 90 parking stalls leaving the
remainder of the site for the retail outlot pad. He commented there may be some flexibility with
the site but did not anticipate a huge change could be made to the setbacks on the site. He
indicated the setbacks were equal to or greater than what the site had currently.
Councilmember Holden explained she had concerns with the small setbacks and questioned
where snow would be stored.
Public Works Director/City Engineer Blomstrom stated this would be something addressed by
staff during the Site Plan Review process. He commented this was an area for concern but noted
the area proposed for zero setbacks, had a zero setback today.
Councilmember Holden indicated she was against the zero setbacks.
Councilmember Scott explained at this time he was throwing up a yellow flag for this project
and stated he would like more work to be done on this project.
Councilmember McClung stated he has had growing concerns with lack of information the City
Council was receiving. He expressed concern with the setbacks requested and feared the
developer was trying to put too much onto the site. He questioned if the retail/restaurant should
be removed. He indicated he also would have to give this project a yellow flag, but was close to
red. He requested more detail from the developer in order to gain support for the project.
Mayor Grant commented this was a yellow flag project. He recommended the setbacks be
reconsidered and the site be redesigned. He encouraged the applicant to reconsider the project
design.
Councilmember Holden asked if the applicant was requesting landscaping flexibility.
Community Development Manager/City Planner Mrosla stated the proposed landscaping
would be similar to what was currently on the site. It was noted there would be an increase in
greenspace.
Councilmember Holden questioned how the Council felt about another drive-thru in this area.
Community Development Manager/City Planner Mrosla commented on the number of drive-
thrus in this area. He explained the main consideration for the Council would be to decide how it
feels about the three foot setback.
Councilmember Holden stated she didn't mind the drive-thru but stated she was against the three
foot setback. She recommended the setback be at least 10 feet.
Councilmember Holmes commented she could support a drive-thru and anticipated the City
would have to change its ordinance regarding the distance between drive-thrus. She indicated she
did have a problem with the proposed setbacks.
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Mayor Grant explained he had a problem with the three foot setback and the zero setback. He
noted he did not have a problem with the drive-thru. He encouraged the applicant to take the
comments that have been voiced by the Council and to redesign his plans.
Mr. Moe thanked the Council for the feedback. He noted his plans were very preliminary and
indicated he would be using high quality building materials and landscaping. He explained he
would continue to talk with the grocer in order to finalize the plans and to address the setback
concerns.
Mayor Grant recommended staff and the applicant consider sidewalks for the development.
B. Abatement Process Discussion
Associate Planner Hartmann stated the existing City Code process prescribed for abating
properties can take anywhere from 20 days to over a month to complete from the time when the
violation is first identified to the time when the abatement can be carried out. City Code section
602.05 requires the enforcing officer to serve a written notice of violation to the property owner
on record. If the violation is not corrected within the time frame required, staff will follow up with
a written notice that a public hearing will be convened for the City Council to determine if an
order to abate is necessary. The public notice must be posted 10 days prior to the meeting. At the
Council's discretion staff will serve a written order to abate to the property owner outlining the
date, time, and nature of the abatement to occur. Staff commented on the abatement process
further and requested feedback from the Council.
Councilmember Holmes explained many of the properties in need of abatement were rentals.
She questioned if the City had a lot of abatement issues and stated if there were not that many
issues perhaps staff time should be spent addressing other issues.
Community Development Manager/City Planner Mrosla stated this matter was brought to the
Council prior to summer to assist staff with addressing long grass issues. He indicated staff was
working on other issues, but wanted to address the accelerated abatement process on behalf of
Code Enforcement staff prior to lawn mowing season beginning. He discussed how the
accelerated program would assist staff in showing the City was taking action on properties.
Mayor Grant commented he was concerned with fact a feedback mechanism was not in place
between City staff and the City Council. He recommended staff consider putting such a
mechanism in place in order to keep the Council apprised of staff s actions.
Councilmember Holden explained she supported the accelerated abatement process because she
had a number of rental homes in her neighborhood. She believed the new process would provide
staff with a better process going forward. She indicated she had concerns with the tree trimming
given the fact it was difficult to get a hold of contractors.
City Administrator Perrault questioned if the Council supported this process going forward.
Mayor Grant supported the accelerated abatement process moving forward. The Council was in
agreement.
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C. Hazelnut Park Neighborhood (2021 PMP)
Public Works Director/City Engineer Blomstrom stated the 2020-2024 Capital Improvement
Program (CIP) identifies proposed street and utility improvements within the 2021 Pavement
Management Program (PMP) area, consisting of Glenpaul, Edgewater, Jerrold and Prior Avenues.
The project area includes approximately 140 single family homes and is generally referred to as
the Hazelnut Park Neighborhood. Street improvements to Lake Valentine Road are also identified
in the CIP as part of this project.
Public Works Director/City Engineer Blomstrom explained residential development within the
Hazelnut Park Neighborhood area began near County Road D and New Brighton Road, with
initial homes constructed in the early 1940s. Development continued north and east with new
subdivision plats approved in 1949 and 1951. The western 480 feet of Jerrold Avenue and western
600 feet of Edgewater Avenue were developed in the mid- 1970s and early 1980s.
Public Works Director/City Engineer Blomstrom reported staff is preparing a resolution
ordering a feasibility study for the 2021 PMP for consideration by the City Council at the April
27, 2020 Regular City Council Meeting. The purpose of this memorandum is to provide a general
description of the preliminary scope, budget and schedule for the project and seek any direction
the Council may wish to provide as staff prepares the feasibility report and recommended special
assessment roll. Staff commented further on the proposed street replacements and requested
comments or questions from the Council.
Councilmember Holden stated the assessment costs for the Glenpaul neighborhood was
concerning to her. She questioned what kind of stormwater replacements were required.
Public Works Director/City Engineer Blomstrom explained the stormwater requirements
would be taken into consideration during the design phase of the project. He understood this was
a sandy area so there would be less water runoff.
Councilmember Holden anticipated that the majority of this neighborhood would not want curb
and gutter.
Public Works Director/City Engineer Blomstrom stated if this was a desire of the Council,
staff could put this into the feasibility report. He indicated this decision would be up to the City
Council. He noted that the work the City was proposing to complete along Lake Valentine Road
would connect with the work being done by the Mounds View School District.
Councilmember Scott commented he had a problem with telling residents they had to drive on
gravel roads when they were paying for pavement. He recommended all water and sewer lines be
investigated when the roads are being replaced. He stated he could support spot replacement of
curbs.
Councilmember McClung thanked staff for the thorough staff report. He stated he generally
supported the project and recommended the drainage issues in the Glenpaul neighborhood be
considered without all the bells and whistles.
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Councilmember Scott questioned if the Glenpaul neighborhood were reconstructed without curb
and gutter, would this reduce the life span of the road.
Public Works Director/City Engineer Blomstrom explained curb and gutter does provide better
drainage for a roadway. He indicated streets with curb and gutter generally do last longer than
streets without curb and gutter when drainage ditches are not provided adjacent to the road
surface.
Councilmember Holmes requested staff provide the Council with the rating for Valentine Road.
Public Works Director/City Engineer Blomstrom stated he could include this information in
the Resolution documentation.
Mayor Grant asked when State Aid dollars would be available to the City.
Public Works Director/City Engineer Blomstrom stated this would occur in 2025. He
commented on the projects that would be utilizing these funds in future years.
Mayor Grant expressed concern with the fact the City had limited resources doing double duty at
this time. In addition, the City was not certain how COVID-19 would impact finances. He
questioned if the City Engineer had discussed this project with the Finance Director.
Public Works Director/City Engineer Blomstrom explained he had discussed this project with
Finance Director Bauman. He commented on how the feasibility report would define how the
project would be funded by the City. He noted only one road within the Glenpaul neighborhood
would qualify for State Aid funds, along with Lake Valentine Road.
Mayor Grant indicated he would like more information regarding the budget for this project in
order to support it going forward. He suggested the feasibility report include the project being
done with and without curb and gutter. He stated he would like to understand what the
assessments would be for the Glenpaul neighborhood.
Councilmember Holden stated that an approximate assessment could be generally determined by
dividing the street costs by the number of properties. She stated she had a concern with fixing up
Lake Valentine Road without fixing the sewer line. She recommended this work be done at the
same time.
Public Works Director/City Engineer Blomstrom commented staff would be evaluating the
condition of the sewer line and if work was needed this would be completed prior to work
beginning on Lake Valentine Road. The City has dollars available for sewer lining to be done in
2020.
Councilmember Holden explained she would like to have staff review the CIP to see when sewer
lining would be completed given the fact the City would not be receiving any grant money from
the Met Council for I&I.
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Finance Director Bauman indicated she did not have the CIP in front of her and stated she
would need to report back to the Council on this matter.
Mayor Grant asked if the Council wanted to move forward with the feasibility study. The
Council supported staff moving forward with the feasibility study.
D. City Hall Parking Lot Update
Public Works Director/City Engineer Blomstrom stated the 2020-2024 Capital Improvement
Program identifies proposed reconstruction of the parking lot at City Hall in 2020. The project
consultant has prepared a preliminary plan for the proposed parking lot improvements. The plan
includes replacement of damaged sidewalk and concrete curb, replacement of sidewalk where
vertical movement has created a trip hazard, site improvements for compliance with ADA
requirements, replacement of existing light poles and fixtures, reconstruction of bituminous
pavement, and drainage improvements.
Public Works Director/City Engineer Blomstrom reported in an effort to contain project costs,
the proposed improvements do not include modification of the existing parking lot configuration.
The estimate assumes milling and removing the top four inches of the existing pavement, then
reclaiming the remaining pavement to blend the bituminous material with the underlying
aggregate base and stabilize the subgrade support for the new pavement. In addition, the entrance
road would be crowned to shed water to the curb lines and conveyed runoff to the surface
discharge points by new valley gutter. This design avoids the additional cost of installing storm
sewer to address current drainage problems. The proposed costs were reviewed with the Council
and staff requested direction on how to proceed.
Councilmember Scott commented he supported this project being deferred.
Councilmember McClung did not support the project being deferred, but was concerned about
the cost of the project. He stated he needed to think about this project further before making a
recommendation.
Councilmember Holmes reported at this time she would like the Council to review the CIP in
further detail prior to making a determination on the City Hall parking lot. She requested further
information regarding the lighting options for the parking lot.
Public Works Director/City Engineer Blomstrom discussed the lighting options available to
the Council.
Councilmember Holmes stated she could support the project moving forward but wanted the
Council to take a closer look at the costs and options available.
Councilmember Holden explained she wanted to see this project completed for safety purposes.
She asked for further information regarding the drainage concerns.
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Public Works Director/City Engineer Blomstrom discussed the drainage concerns that were
occurring in the parking lot through an inverted crown. He described how the parking lot needed
to be pitched in order to address this concern.
Councilmember Holden supported the City keeping the lights as is, but recommended the
parking lot project move forward.
Mayor Grant was of the opinion this was an item the City could defer. He supported the City
putting this project on the back burner for financial reasons. He understood staff safety was a
concern and suggested a patch be considered for the parking lot for this year.
E. Off Sale Alcohol Sales
City Administrator Perrault explained Governor Walz had passed an executive order that would
allow for the sale of beer and wine with curbside food orders for restaurants with liquor licenses.
Mayor Grant reported this type of sales would only be allowed while the Stay at Home order was
in place. He stated he understood businesses were hurting and for this reason, he supported the
off sale alcohol sales with no restrictions.
Councilmember McClung commented he supported this type of off sale liquor sales with no
restrictions.
Councilmember Scott agreed.
Councilmember Holmes and Councilmember Holden supported the sales as well.
F. Council Tracker
City Administrator Perrault provided the Council with an update on the Council Tracker. After
discussion no items were removed from the Tracker.
2. COUNCIL COMMENTS AND STAFF UPDATES
Councilmember Scott thanked staff for working diligently to keep City services operational
during this crisis. He encouraged staff to remain safe. He noted the City had received a little bit
of blowback from the public after canceling all of the City's summer programming. He
anticipated the COVID-19 crisis was going to go longer than people anticipate and he supported
the Council's actions.
Councilmember McClung thanked staff for all of their efforts in these uncertain times.
Councilmember Holmes thanked staff and CTV for recording meetings. She commented at the
last Council meeting she stated she received an email from a resident with respiratory issues and
asked that staff put an alert on the website regarding recreational fires. She asked if staff would
be addressing this issue.
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City Administrator Perrault indicated he had discussed this with staff and would report back to
Council on how this matter was being addressed.
Mayor Grant stated the comment should be carefully be word stating the City allows recreational
fires, but was encouraging residents at this time to be considerate of those who may have
respiratory issues.
Councilmember Holmes explained if there was confusion with her previous request, she would
like feedback from staff.
Councilmember Holmes questioned if staff had spoken to Ramsey County regarding property
taxes.
City Administrator Perrault commented he had spoken to Director Bauman regarding this
matter and Ramsey County would be discussing this matter at their meeting on Tuesday, April
21St. He explained the City did not anticipate having a cash flow issue through July 15th given
current level of cash flows on hand.
Councilmember Holden indicated the E2 trail by Old Snelling had large cracks that should be
fixed this year.
Public Works Director/City Engineer Blomstrom explained this portion was still under
warranty and he would investigate this further.
Councilmember Holden commented on the feedback the City received regarding the cancelation
of all summer recreation programs. She suggested staff offer further information regarding the
staffing concerns on Facebook.
Mayor Grant noted a face mask collection would be held on Saturday, April 25th. He
commented these face masks would be utilized by senior living sites like Presbyterian Homes.
Mayor Grant explained he received a call from the United States Census and he learned the City
was doing quite well with its responses, which was just over 60%. He indicated he would
encourage residents to fill out their census information at the Monday City Council meeting.
ADJOURN
Mayor Grant adjourned the City Council Work Session at 7:09 p.m.
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