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Request for Special City Council Work Session
A special meeting may be called by the Mayor or by any two Councilmembers.
Reason for meeting: 1A. State of the City Update
1B. Pavement Resurfacing Discussion
1C. Lake Johanna Fire Department Station Cities Agreement Update
1D. COVID-19 Update
Requested Date: 7/13/2020
Requested time: 5:00 pm
Open meeting X Closed meeting
Signature of person(s) making request:
7/09/2020
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Mayor or Council Member Date
Council Member Date
-This section to be completed by City staff-
Date received: 7/09/2020
Date meeting to be held: 7/13/2020
Time of meeting: 5:00 pm
Location: City Hall
All necessary posting and notices have been completed.
7/09/2020
Signature of City Clerk Date
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Approved : August 24,2020
CITY OF ARI}EN HILLS, MINNESOTA
SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION
JULY 13,2020
5:OO P.M. - ARDEN HILLS CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
CALIL Tp* pRDER/ROLL CALL
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, Mayor David Grant called to order the Special City
Council Work Session at 5:00 p.m.
Note: On Mareh 20th, the Mayor signed a determination allowing Councilmembers to participate
in City Council meetings via telephone pursuant to State Statute 13D.021
Present via Telephone: Mayor David Grant, Councilmembers Brenda Holden, Fran
Holmes, Dave McClung and Steve Scott
Ahsent: None
Also present: City Administrator Dave PerraulU Public Works Director/City Engineer
Todd Blomstrom; Finance Director Gayle Bauman; Public Works Superintendent Jeff
Frid; and City Clerk Julie Hanson via telephone: Community Development Manager/City
Planner Mike Mrosla and Communications Coordinator Dawn Skelly
1. AGENDA ITEMS
A. State of the City Update
Mayor Grant asked the Council which option it would like to pursue for the State of the City
format. These options from CTV are outlined in the staff memo.
Councilmemher Holden asked if changes could be proposed to the draft presentation script and
slides.
The Council agreed that the first option for $439.00 was acceptable.
Councilmember Holden reviewed her list of suggested changes to the various slides.
A discussion ensued and the Council was in agreement with Councilmember Holden's proposed
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B. Pavement Resurfacing Discussion
Public Works Director/City Engineer Blomstrom stated that the City Council held an initial
discussion of the city's street overlay projects that are conducted by the Public Works Department
at its June 15, 2020 work session. He outlined the three informational items included in the
agenda materials as follows:
l. A summary of project locations and costs for past overlay projects completed by
department staff.
Public Works Director/City Engineer Blomstrom indicated that Finance Director Bauman
reviewed available information and compiled a historical costs summary of previous city projects
(see Attachment A).
2. A review of average bid prices for recent contracted overlay projects.
Public Works Director/City Engineer Blomstrom indicated that Engineering staff obtained
recent bid tabulations from the cities of Roseville, Shoreview, and Crystal for municipal street
projects that were completed in either 2019 or are underway in2020. A summary of those prices
are provided in Attachment B. He stated it is important to note the pricing is for projects involving
approximately 1,600 to 10,000 tons of material and that will produce an overall lower unit price
due to economy of scale. He cautioned a comparison between Attachments A and B and urged
the Council to keep in mind that unit pricing that is more reflective of Arden Hills' typical
projects in the past have are for approximately 150 to 600 tons of material.
3. A summary of city street segments that could potentially be resurfaced bythe department.
Puhlic Works Director lCiW Engineer Blomstrom emphasized that Public Works staff was
willing and prepared to proceed with this work as directed by the City Council.
Puhlic Works Director/City Engineer Blomstrom directed the City Council to Attachment A
and specifically data for the 2015 project. He noted there was limited documentation for the 2015
project as compared to earlier projects in the city. Prior to this meeting and upon further research
of past invoices for the 2A15 project, he noted that while the project was listed at 75 tons the
actual material amount was closer to 310 tons, and that the labor hours spent were closer to 250
hours versus 320 hours. He noted this important change to Attachment A as this lowers the
external costs for the project closer to $63 and brings the total costs including labor closer to $91
which is substantially less than the $228 figure as previously indicated in the table.
Mayor Grant asked if all the streets in pink wers potentially proposed for this year.
Public Works Director lcity Engineer Blomstrom reported this was the case.
Mayor Grant questioned if the City could purchase additional pavement from a supplier already
working in the City through a bid alternate to drive the price of the street projects down.
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Public Works Director lCiW Engineer Blomstrom stated he would have to investigate this
further and would report back to the Council.
Councilmember Holden asked when the street improvements and signal work would bs
completed at the high school.
Public Works Director/City Engineer Blomstrom explained the School District anticipates the
crosswalk and signal work would be completed this year. He indicated the broader resurfacing
would be done in 2021.
Councilmember Holden commented she spoke to Mr. Blomstrom for over an hour today
regarding this matter. She supported the City doing something for these roadways given the fact it
would cost the City a whole lot more to completely reconstruct these roadways. She
recommended the City look into purchasing additional pavement and that the work be completed
yet this fall by City staff (other than Cummings Lane).
Mayor Grant questioned if the Public Works crew could complete a cul-de-sac.
Public Works Director/City Engineer Blomstrom indicated the Public Works crew could
complete this work.
Mayor Grant recommended Fairview, Walden and Hunters Court be completedin202l.
Mayor Grant asked how long a mill and overlay project would last.
Public Works Director/City Engineer Blomstrom explained a two inch resurfacing would last
at least ten years.
Councilmember Scott supported the work as proposed,
Councilmember McClung and Councilmember Holmes were in agreement as well.
Public Works Director/City Engineer Blomstrom requested the Council consider renting a
larger paver for the work being completed this fall.
Mayor Grant supported this recommendation.
Councilmember Holden asked if the higher priced oil pavement product would make the streets
last longer.
Puhlic Works Director/City Engineer Blomstrom commented there was some debate regarding
this matter. He indicated the higher grade oils generally do perform better. He requested the
Council allow staff to investigate the pricing and asphalt products in order to allow him to make
the best investment for these streets.
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Councilmember Holden recommended staff look at completing Hunter Lane and Fairview in
2021.
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City Administrator Perrault suggested a written memo be approved by the Council at a future
meeting to address the work that would be completed.
Mayor Grant supported this recommendation.
C. Lake Johanna Fire Department Station Cities Agreement Update
City Administrator Perrault stated at its June work session, the City Council discussed the
contract cities agreement that would lay the groundwork for the purchase of land adjacent to the
Anderson Center for a future fire station. At the work session, the City Council requested
language changes be made: any one of the three cities could bond for a station when it is time for
construction, bond payments relating to the construction of a new station will be set at the time the
bond is issued and will be fixed for each city for the duration of the bond, a date for future
construction was removed and replaced with unanimous consent of the three cities, the language
regarding municipal fees was struck assuming the normal development fees will be charged, and
language was added that would allow the City of Arden Hills to purchase the land and future
buildings should the station no longer be used to service Arden Hills.
City Administrator Perrault reported since the June work session, the preliminary and final plat
for the new lots was approved by the City Council allowing Bethel to subdivide land, this
approval also started the timeframe for the Lake Johanna Fire Department's due diligence period
of sixty days prior to purchasing the land. The fire department has until August 21, 7020 to
complete their due diligence, and September 21, 2020 to close on the land. The elected
representatives on the LJFD Fire Board and City Administrators/I4anagers met (via Zoom)
recently to discuss the progress of the agreement and see where each City stands. The City
Administrator and Councilmember McClung wers on the call, and explained the position of the
City as it stands today. The other two cities, Shoreview and North Oaks, reviewed the updated
draft agreement, and had suggestions and/or concerns. These concerns were reviewed in further
detail, including the proposed formula and staff requested comments or questions from the
Council.
Mayor Grant commented he could not support a financing plan based on Met Council 2030
population estimates.
City Administrator Perrault stated he would not recommend this for the City Council either.
Mayor Grant questioned how the Council wanted to address bonding.
Councilmember Scott supported a single city doing the bonding because this was more cost
efficient.
Councilmember Holden discussed the issues that may arise if a single city were to bond and the
other cities were to not make payments.
Cify Administrator Perrault reported a JPA would need to be established regardless of which
city bonds for the project. He estimated it would cost the cities $178,000 to bond for the project,
with $73,000 of this expense being charged to Arden Hills. He estimated the City would save
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approximately $28,000 if a single city were to bond for this project versus each city bonding
individually.
Mayor Grant supported each city issuing their own bonds.
City Administrator Perrault commented this will not follow the cost share plan within the
proposed formula.
Councilmember McCIung explained the other two cities would like to go based on the current
formula, or use future population estimates.
Councilmember Holden asked if TCAAP was not in Arden Hills, would a completely different
fire station be proposed for this site.
Councilmember McClung reported the proposed frre station allows for growth in all three cities
for the next 40 to 50 years. He believed a similar size building would be built even if TCAAP
was taken out of the equation.
Councilmember Holden stated she was having a hard time understanding why Arden Hills
should be paying a larger share. She asked if TCAAP was not in Arden Hills, would the fire
station be less expensive.
Councilmember McClung reiterated that without TCAAP, the fire station would still be built as
proposed to address the expected growth in Shoreview and North Oaks. He explained this was
one of the issues of working cooperatively with two other cities through a non-profit to provide
fire services. He reported the altemative would be for the City to provide its own ftre services
which would come at two or three times the cost.
Councilmember Holden commented she understood this. She believed that the proposed
formula was unfair.
Councilmember McClung stated he tried to explain the City's position with the Fire Board in a
number of different ways.
City Administrator Perrault explained this was the case and noted the Fire Board was not
heeding to the City's point of view. He indicated if the City were not to change its stance
regarding the proposed frre station, he feared the project could be shelved.
Councilmember Holmes reported she would like the City to remain cooperative for this project
and supported one City bonding. She explained she originally advocated for the bonds being a
fixed amount because that is what bonds are. She did not believe it was fair to project the growth
that may or may not occur in Arden Hills. She commented she did not have a problem with
changing the formula every five or ten years. She supported the project having a single city bond
for the project for cost saving pu{poses. She stated she would like to see the City move on from
this.
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Councilmember McCIung indicated City Administrator Perrault had done some research into
this, noting Arden Hills was in a unique situation because it has fire services provided through a
non-profit. He requested staff discuss the innerworkings of the SBM Fire Department.
Cify Administrator Perrault discussed how the Spring Lake Park/Blaine/Mounds View Fire
Department was configured.
Councilmember McClung stated the proposed five year average was in the City's favor. He
reported in the short term the proposal helps the City. He explained Arden Hills would have the
most development in the next 20 to 30 years.
Mayor Grant commented he supported a single city bonding for this project.
Councilmember McClung indicated Arden Hills could support a single city bonding for this
project, but noted Arden Hills would not have to be the bonding agent.
Councilmember Holden expressed concern with how little say Arden Hills has had in this
project. She feared this project was being driven by the other two partner cities.
Mayor Grant agreed it was clear the numbers were being driven by the other two partner cities.
He asked if the Council would agree to bonding the $10 million for this project.
Councilmember Scott stated he could support the City bonding for this project.
Councilmember Holden commented with TCAAP on the horizon, she did not want the City also
bonding for the fire station for the next 10 or 20 years. She indicated she did not want the City's
bond rating to drop because the City was bonding for too many projects.
Mayor Grant questioned if Shoreview should be asked to bond for this project.
Councilmember Holmes stated she did not believe it was a big concern to determine who was
going to bond for the project at this point.
Councilmember McClung indicated he could support the City bonding for the fire station.
Mayor Grant explained he preferred the city of Shoreview bonding for this project. He
understood the Council was split on this issue.
Councilmember Holmes stated she would prefer Shoreview or North Oaks bonding for the fire
station given the fact Arden Hills would be required to bond a great deal for TCAAP.
Mayor Grant suggested a recommendation be made to the Fire Board that one City bond for the
project and it is Arden Hi[[s' preference to have Shoreview issue the bond.
City Administrator Perrault reported this suggestion could be discussed at the next Fire Board
meeting which would be held on Wednesday, July l5th.
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Mayor Grant recommended the Council move onto the hard date concem,
Councilmember Holden commented it was her belief Shoreview and North Oaks have already
determined that the Fire Station should be built in2025 without seeking input from Arden Hills.
City Administrator Perrault stated the original date discussed was 2022 and staff recommended
this be pushed back to 2025.
Councilmember McClung indicated he was surprised how vehemently North Oaks was pushing
for a hard date. It was explained North Oaks would like a hard date for financial planning
purposes.
Mayor Grant questioned how put the June 30, 2025 date in place.
City Administrator Perrault reported he recommended 2025. He explained the other cities
supported the 2025 date, given all that has occurred due to COVID.
Councilmember Holden stated she did not understand why there was a rush to build as soon as
the land was in place.
Councilmember McClung indicated the other cities were concerned about a major investiture of
money and land outside their city and making sure there was a date certain to ensure the project is
completed.
Councilmember Holden commented she did not understand why this was such a concern given
the fact it was outside their city. She did not understand what these cities were concerned about.
Councilmember McClung explained Shoreview and North Oaks feared that the land would be
purchased and a fire station would never be built.
Councilmember Holden recommended the hard date be set for 2026 because this would allow
the City to pay off the land while still having five years to plan for the fire station.
Councilmember McClung stated this would be a reasonable recommendation.
Mayor Grant indicated he could support 2025 or 2026.
Councilmemher Scott stated he understood from previous conversations that the 2025 date was a
'ono later than" date. He explained he did not want the fire station to be pushed any later than
2026.
Councilmember Holmes supported the City setting a hard date in 2026 given the state of the
economy due to COVID-19. She stated the City could always complete the project sooner, but she
preferred the Fire Board moving forward with a date in2026,
Councilmember Scott commented he could support 2025 or 2026, but no later than 2026.
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Councilmember McClung indicated he would go to the Fire Board recommending 2026 with
2025 as a second recommendation.
Cify Administrator Perrault discussed the future ownership of the land and fire station noting
the other two cities were comfortable with the proposed language. He explained if the fire station
were not built, each city would receive its portion paid for the land. In addition, should the Lake
Johanna organization dissolve the equipment and assets would be given to a successor that serves
the cities.
Councilmember Scott and Councilmemher Holden supported the revised language.
Councilmemher Holden questioned where the population numbers would be coming from for
the fire board formula.
City Administrator Perrault stated this formula would be derived from Met Council numbers.
Councilmember Holmes requested the City Attorney review the agreement and take into
consideration the assumptions that were being made for the future.
City Administrator Perrault explained the City Attorney would review the contract and would
assist staff with revising the language,
D. COVID-l9 Update
City Administrator Perrault provided the Council with an update on how the City was
responding to the COVID-19 pandemic. He reported Arden Hills was still under a local peacetime
state of emergency. He asked if the Council wanted to reconsider solicitor and garage sale
permits. He commented the Council should also discuss if City Hall should remain closed to the
public.
Councilmember Scott indicated he believed garage sales were still too high of a risk for the City
to begin issuing permits.
Councilmember Holmes disagreed stating the risk was not too high given the fact these were
outdoor events, She reported a number of neighboring cities were allowing garage sales. She
supported the City of Arden Hills allowing garage sales, solicitors and the use of picnic shelters.
Councilmember Holden was in agreement with Councilmember Holmes.
Mayor Grant believed garage sales had fairly minimal contact and for this reason he could
support garage sales in the City. He commented he did not support solicitors at this time because
they would be going door to door. He stated he could support the opening of picnic shelters in the
City.
Councilmember McClung indicated these were all good points, but he did not want the City to
open up too quickly as this would allow the virus to spread more rapidly.
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Councilmember Scott stated he did not support garage sales, solicitors or the opening of picnic
shelters.
Mayor Grant summarized the comments of the Council and noted three councilmembers
supported garage sales and the opening of picnic shelters.
Councilmember Holden explained if there was an uptick in cases over the next month, she
would want the Council to reconsider garage sales and the use of picnic shelters.
Mayor Grant agreed with this suggestion.
Councilmember McCIung questioned if the City could mandate the use of masks at picnic
shelters or at garage sales.
Councilmemher Holmes stated the use of masks was not necessary outdoors and noted it would
be difficult for the City to enforce such a mandate.
Further discussion ensued regarding a potential mask mandate in the City of Arden Hills.
Mayor Grant believed that a mask mandate should be made by the County or State in order to be
effective.
Councilmember Holmes stated the park shelters are already being used. She explained if the
City were to open these amenities the City would have mors authority over their use. She
recommended that if a change were made regarding garage sales and the picnic shelters that this
information be posted on the City's website.
City Administrator Perrault reported he could post this information on the City's website.
Councilmember Holden requested further information regarding the number of staff members
working from City Hall.
City Administrator Perrault reviewed the work schedule and noted staff members were
encouraged to work from home in order to keep the City under the eight person threshold. He
commented further on how the social distancing requirements were discussed with the Public
Works Department staff members.
Councilmemher Holmes asked what project required the Public Works staff to comingle.
Public Works Director/City Engineer Blomstrom reported street patching work required five
employees. He noted the seasonals were not exposed on this project. He explained a strict limit
of four would be set from this point going forward.
Councilmember Holmes expressed concern with the fact the parameters that were set by the
Council were not followed.
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City Administrator Perrault commented he could follow up tomorrow with a telephone call.
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Public Works Director/City Engineer Blomstrom indicated staff had erred on the side of
caution allowing the seasonals to go home until the test results were known.
Mayor Grant indicated he would like staff to answer Councilmember Holmes question and
explain why a Council recommendation had not been followed.
Public Works Director/City Engineer Blomstrom stated he did not have an adequate
explanation. He reported starting today he would be holding firm on this policy and there would
be no more than four Public Works staff working together on a project.
Councilmember Holmes indicated she would like to understand why staff sent the seasonal
workers home.
City Administrator Perrault stated he could answer this question offline and not in a public
forum.
Mayor Grant requested staff call each of the Councilmembers and provide an explanation to
Councilmember Holmes' question.
City Administrator Perrault reported he would complete this task. He asked if the Council
wanted City Hall to remain closed.
Councilmember Holden recommended City Hall remain closed.
Mayor Grant supported this recommendation in order to keep City employees safe and healthy.
The Council was in agreement.
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2. COUNCIL/STAFF COMMENTS
Councilmember McClung reported as of July I"New Brighton would be providing mutual aid
to the Lake Johanna Fire Department.
Councilmember Holden questioned when the chicken issue would be on an agenda.
City Administrator Perrault anticipated this would be addressed in August.
Councilmember Holden requested staff not send emails after 12:00 p.m. on Monday with
information for the meeting that would be held that evening.
ADJOURN
Mayor Grant adjourned the Special City Council Work Session at 7:03 p.m.
Jul' Hanson David Grant
Ci Clerk Mayor