HomeMy WebLinkAbout09-25-1990 PTRC Meeting Meetings CITY OF ARDEN HILLS
PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING
MINUTES, SEPTEMBER 25, 1990
. Call to Order
The regular meeting of the Arden Hills Park and Recreation
Commission was called to order at 7 : 35 P.M. by Chair David Sand.
Roll Call
Present: David Sand, Keith Enrooth, Carol Johnson, Mark Magers,
Don Messerly, Dorothy McClung, Tom Mulcahy, and Alan Montgomery.
Absent
Pattie Green.
Also Present
Councilmember Tom Mahowald, Program Supervisor Cindy Severtson
and Parks Director John Buckley.
Approval of Minutes
Minutes of the June 26 meeting were approved as mailed.
Council Report
Bruce Vento Meeting:
Congressman Vento chaired a meeting on Saturday, September 22 to
discuss availability of Arsenal property for an athletic field
complex. People present at the meeting included Bruce Vento,
• Kate Seng, from Vento's St. Paul office, Don Lappin, Chief of
General Law-Office of Army Counsel, Tom Mickley, Army Rep. -Real
Estate, Mark Schmitt, MPCA Project Mgr. , Greg Mack, Ramsey Co.
Park Director, Bob Nethercut, Chairman, Ramsey Co. Park Board,
Mayor Sather, Councilmembers Mahowald, Hansen, and Malone, Parks
Director Buckley, Program Supervisor Severtson, City
Administrator Berger, Barb Johnson, Metropolitan Council, and
Larry Jones, Bulletin reporter.
Three main points were discussed: Risk Assessment Study (should
be completed in early 1991) , Safety Factor (storage of explosives
on the site) , and Security Factor (securing the site from
remainder of Arsenal) .
Conclusion: It is premature to discuss availability of Arsenal
site before a Risk Assessment Study is completed.
City Survey: A city-wide survey is now being conducted. Results
should be available in October. Part of the questions in the
survey will ask residents to evaluate the parks and programs.
Councilmember Mahowald and Buckley will meet with John McClung to
discuss pre-development park dedication of property on trail.
Successful dedication would complete the last section of trail
from City Hall to power line trail located just north of Colleen
• Avenue.
CITY OF ARDEN HILLS
PARK DEPARTMENT - 1991 TRAIL DEVELOPMENT
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Trail Length/Trail Approx. Cost
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CUMMINGS PARK
Around perimeter of park 2416' $19, 328
Cul-de-sac to picnic shelter 350' 2 , 800
Warming house to picnic shelter 370' 2 , 960
TRAIL SYSTEM
Lexington to top of hill 768 ' 6, 144
Lower ridge along Lexington 415' 3 , 320
Upper suicide hill 490' 3 , 920
Cummings Park to Fernwood tower 692 ' 5, 536
Water tower Rd. to Hamline 1834 ' 14 , 672
FLORAL PARK
Trail around ball field 1110, 8 , 880
Trail around picnic/play area 1160' 9 , 280
Under power line to Norma path 504 ' 4 , 032
Royal Dr. to ball field 443 ' 3 , 544
TRAIL SYSTEM
Hamline to Floral ball field 995' 7 , 960
'oil HAZELNUT PARK
Around perimeter/athletic area 1750' 14 , 000
Arden Trail to top of drive to
hockey rink 435' 3 , 480
Arden Trail to hockey rink 300' 2 , 400
CHATHAM AREA
Walking bridge to Valentine
Hills School 370' 2� 960
GRAND TOTAL $115, 216
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N Park Notes
` I A newsletter of the Friends of St. Paul and Ramsey County Parks
:t. Pa nand v 1621 Beechwood Avenue, St. Paul, Minnesota 55116 698-4543
mxyca'�` Volume 4, Number 4 November, 1990
'Fail progress slow Frustrated by months of tortoise-like progress in negotiating the purchase of the
abandoned Burlington Northern corridor from the river to Beam Avenue in Maplewood,
County votes for the County Board authorized the County Attorney to file a petition for eminent domain.
condemnation
The County Rail Authority has been negotiating with the railroad for over a year in an
effort to acquire the corridor for joint rail/recreational trail use. With the authorization
to proceed with condemnation,the Rail Authority hopes the issue will be resolved more
quickly. The property could still be purchased through normal negotiations but if they
break down completely or continue at the current pace,the matter may eventually end
up in District Court.
Washington and Chisago Counties are also interested in acquiring portions of the
corridor for light rail transit and recreational trail use. Washington County has levied
for taxes to acquire the property. Chisago County recently formed a Rail Authority for
the specific purpose of acquiring the Burlington Northern Corridor and have notified the
railroad of their wish to purchase the property.
All three counties see little problem with joint use of the trail for light rail and recreation.
With all three counties working on this trail, at completion it would provide a
recreational trail from near downtown St.Paul to North Branch. It also provides the
opportunity to link up with numerous other trails.
Protection of St. Paul If the proposed charter amendment is approved,park lands which are sold or diverted
parks on front burner from park use must be appraised and money from the sale or diversion will be placed in
a park fund for acquisition of park lands. The amendment,introduced by Councilman
Charter amendment Bob Long,was heard in the Neighborhood Services Committee of the City Council in
proposed early November.
St.Paul's 1914 charter contained strong provisions to protect park lands but when the
current charter was adopted in the 1970's,all built-in protection for park lands was lost.
Fearing a raid on unprotected park land,the Friends conducted a survey of other cities
to determine how they insured the preservation of their parks. Of the 14 cities contacted
in 1986,all had safeguards in place. Protections ranged from a policy not to sell park
land,to required legislative approval,to a voter referendum. Those cities which did
allow park lands to be sold or diverted to nonpark usage required that the lost park lands
be replaced.
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"This quote scarcely needs amplification," said Friends Executive Director Peggy
Lynch. "There is some irony in all of this though. Many people protested the fill being
put there to begin with. About 10 years ago the City allowed the Minnesota Department
of Transportation to dump construction material from 35E into a ravine. Allegedly it
was to prevent erosion. I remember it well because in the process of preventing erosion,
they destroyed a beautiful natural area with trillium and other flowers that grow in damp
and wooded places." Along with the threat of condominium construction in Crosby
Park,the dumping of the 35E debris in the ravine led to the formation of the Friends of
the Parks.
"It is such an irony that now two of the things we objected to are coming together like
this. First they dumped junk in the park and buried it. Then they build a police station
in the park precisely where they dumped the junk," said Lynch. "Even though the
Friends opposed the team police site,some very good things have emerged through this
process. In the long run I expect there will be more protection for park lands. Everyone
is so much more aware of the need to preserve what we have. Peoples'attitudes are so
positive toward the parks. What started out negative has become a big plus."
Capitol Mall remains That great green space that announces your arrival at the State Capitol is called
unfinished "Minnesota's front yard:by Capitol Area planners. It is the largest piece of parkland
in downtown St.Paul,yet it is rarely used by the public except for large-scale events like
Taste of Minnesota and the Winter Carnival.
Realizing the need for a more user-friendly Mall, the Capitol Area Architectural and
Planning Board(CAAPB)held a competition in 1986 to redesign the Mall. The chosen
design would enable multiple human-scale activities and promote day-to-day use of the
Mall. It would also provide a more visually exciting setting for Architect Cass Gilbert's
Capitol.
But this is all future tense.
The legislature has not yet appropriated funds to accomplish the redesign. "This is
really a wasted resource,said CAAPB planner Paul Mandell. "We have the potential
for a wonderful park for people to use. In the summer people could stroll here from
downtown offices for picnic lunches,Capitol staff and other employees who work in the
area would find it a quiet"green retreat",tourists who come to the Capitol would find
it a charming place to spend an hour ambling among the sculptures and the plantings.
This is a wasted resource. The first steps have been taken. It is time to complete the
process of making this a usable park instead of a vast green field."
For more information about the Mall plans,call Mary Duroche at 296-7138.
The Missing Mile The one mile of missing property needed to complete the Rice Creek Trail Corridor may
Vento facilitates progress be a step closer to reality following a September meeting between Congressman Bruce
Vento, representatives from the Department of the Army, Ramsey County and four
municipalities.
The Rice Creek Trail is a proposed land and water recreation trail which winds through
four municipalities,Ramsey County...and the Twin Cities Army Ammunition Plant.
The corridor is complete except for the one mile link within the Plant property.
Negotiations among the parties to complete the trail have dragged on for years.
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In recent months the plan to improve Pickerel Lake with MAC assistance has been
threatened by a definition of terms. According to the Environmental Protection agency
and the Army Corps of Engineers,Pickerel Lake should not receive the funds because
it is not a true mitigation. It does not create anything new or restore an area that has been
destroyed. The Corps feels that the work on Pickerel Lake would actually create a net
loss of wetlands.
The Department of Natural Resources has approved mitigation for the Pickerel Lake
site,however one mitigation permit has expired and plans need to be settled again. At
that time the MAC mitigation will again be evaluated. In the mean time,no work on
preserving Pickerel Lake can begin. Excerpted from The voice.a newspaper serving the west side.
Thanks to Jane McClure.
Hike the Burlington You read about it here. The trial corridor which would not die, but which seemed
Corridor threatened from every side. Now you can stop reading about it and walk it. (I've done
it. Wear good shoes!) Join the District 4 Council on December 8 at Earl and Mounds
Park at 10:30 AM. This is the first of a series of hikes sponsored by the Council. Contact
Karen Dupaul at 776-0550 for further details.
Trails proposed A new regional park policy plan seeks to create seven new trails close to the urban
population and is looking at more trails in the next four years.
Six proposed trails are:Fridley to Ramsey in Anoka County;Long Lake Regional Park
in New Brighton to Keller Regional Park in Maplewood;downtown St.Paul to Lily dale
Regional Park in St.Paul and Lilydale;Phalen Regional Park to Mississippi River Blvd.
in St.Paul and each side of the Mississippi River from Minneapolis Central Riverfront
Regional Park near downtown to North Mississippi Regional Park in north Minneapolis.
A seventh trail from Minnehaha Creek through Bloomington and Richfield awaits light
rail transit decisions.
The proposal also extends a planned trail which would interconnect Lilydale,St.Paul
and Fort Snelling State Park.
The Met Council will hold a hearing on the revised parks policy in February. Contact
the Metropolitan Council at(612)291-6359 for more information.
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Trivia How much litter was picked up on Minnesota highways last year? 16,000 tons.The cost
to taxpayers is$4 million a year. Contrary to popular opinion,most of that litter is not
thrown from fast moving cars by disreputable people who are slightly inebriated. Most
of it blows from uncovered trucks,open trash cans,and other poorly sealed containers.
If you see a truck cruising down the freeway blithely unloading itself as it rolls along,
jot down the vehicle license number and the name of the company who owns the vehicle.
Call and register a complaint. Also,make sure your own trash can is properly covered,
and finally, contract with a trash hauler who uses trucks designed to minimize the
problem.
What percentage of trash in landfills is biodegradable? 50%. But even that which is
biodegradable(able to be decomposed by natural processes)most of it just sits in the land
PARK FUND
L19-9- PARK DEVELOPMENT
• Cummings Color Coat Tennis & Hard Court $ 3 , 000
Floral Color Coat Tennis Court 1, 000
Overlay & Color Hard Court 1, 800
Hard Court Overlay:
Sampson 1, 500
Freeway 1, 500
Valentine 1, 500
Ingerson Picnic Shelter 41000
Tennis Court (Single) 15, 000
Trails Surface 25 , 000 1 ► 3, &N
Benches 2 , 000
TOTAL $ 56, 300
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COMMENTS 7) ,300
Park dedication and charitable gambling proceeds are dedicated to
the Park Fund. These monies can only be expended for park land
acquisition, park and trail development and salaries _related to
park development.
Account 303 "Engineer" is increased -:�j $1, 889 in 1990 Estimate
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and to $2 , 000 1991 Proposed budget to reflect increased
engineering services requested from MSA.
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• PARK FUND
1990 PARK DEVELOPMENT ---
Arden Oaks Picnic Shelter $ 4,000
Cummings Lake Path and Dock 5,500
Hazelnut Warming Shelter 15,000
Lindey's Landscaping 1 ,000 y
Valentine Play Structure 9,000 9� 0a
Trails Surface Improvements 25,000 ia, �
Twin City Athletic Field Development 175,000 4- C p
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TOTAL $234,500 2-2W►7
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Park dedication and charitable gambling proceeds are dedicated to the Park
Fund. These monies can only be expended for park land acquisition, park
and trail development and salaries related to park development.
• Account 530 "Improvements Other Than Buildings" increased significantly in
1990 due to the proposed Arsenal Athletic Complex. Also, there will be
related increases in Account 304 "Legal" and 312 "Planner" .
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CITY OF ARDEN HILLS �n�
PARK DEPARTMENT - 1991 TRAIL DEVELOPMENT
Trail S wtilo ® gyp ) Length/Trail A rox Cost
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CUMMINGS PARK
Around perimeter of park 2416' $19, 328
Cul-de-sac to picnic shelter 350-1 2 , 800
Warming house to picnic shelter 370' 2 , 960
TRAIL SYSTEM
Lexington to top of hill 768 ' 6, 144
Lower ridge along Lexington 415' 3 , 320
Upper suicide hill 490' 3 , 920
Cummings Park to Fernwood tower 692 ' 5, 536
Water tower Rd. to Hamline 1834 ' 14 , 672
FLORAL PARK
Trail around ball field 1110, 8 , 880
Trail around picnic/play area 1160' 9 , 280
Under power line to Norma path 504 ' 4 , 032
Royal Dr. to ball field 443 ' 3 , 544
TRAIL SYSTEM
Hamline to Floral ball field 995' 7 , 960
• HAZELNUT PARK
Around perimeter/athletic area 1750 ' 14 , 000
3 Arden Trail to top of drive to
hockey rink 435' 3 , 480
Arden Trail to hockey rink 300' 2 , 400
CHATHAM AREA
Walking bridge to Valentine
Hills School 370' 2, 960
GRAND TOTAL $115, 216
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fill because it is sealed away from the air it needs to break down. Biodegradables should •
be composted and nonbiodegradables should be either recycled or avoided when
possible.
PSSst Just a little note of reminder. We are supported by the generous contributions of
those who love parks and want to make sure they are protected and maintained.We think
that you are in this select group. If we are right and you have not yet joined as a full
fledged,paid up and card carrying member,please do it now. Send your membership
contribution of$10.00 or more to 1621 Beechwood Ave.,St.Paul,MN 55116.
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The Friends of St. Paul and Ramsey County Parks Non-Profit Org.
1621 Beechwood Avenue U.S. Postage
St Paul, Minnesota 55116 Paid
St. Paul,MN
Address correction requested Permit No. 3413
David Sand
Parks & Recreation cow ittee
1989 Jerrold Ave. •
Arden H'lls,pfl 55112
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Although previously reluctant to move forward with a lease or land transfer,the Army
is showing increasing flexibility in their negotiations according to those who attended
the meeting. This new found flexibility may be related to an internal assessment being
done by the federal government to determine which properties it wishes to keep and
which it would like to dispose of. Once the army determines that it is willing to sell or
lease the land three problems remain:
1. Environmental-The Environmental Protection Agency should complete a report by
mind 1991 showing what land and water pollution problems may exist on the site.
2. Security-keeping people out of the Twin Cities Arms Plant buildings and facilities
is essential. Fences should provide enough security.
3. Safety-represents a major problem as there is storage of munitions in bunkers near
the trail site. Secured safety zones will need to be maintained.
The federal government will examine the last two concerns in the months ahead while
the environmental aspects of the trail is being examined by the EPA and the Minnesota
Pollution Control Agency.
The four municipalities would also like to acquire an additional 35 acre parcel of land
within the ammunition plant for athletic fields to complement the Rice Creek Trail. Any
environmental problems at the site are likely to be more difficult to resolve in the athletic
field area than in the trail area because of the difference in the type of usage.
Congressman Vento has been instrumental in bringing all of the parties to the table and
has helped with these early stages of negotiations. Parks and trail lovers who would like
to thank Mr. Vento may write to him at 2304 RHOB Washington D.C.20510.
Minnesota Ski Pass Careful readers of Park Notes undoubtedly remember all of the wonderful reasons to
purchase a cross country ski pass.The best reason is that your fee helps pay for grooming
those ski trails that turn the worst Minnesota has to offer into some of the best. And then
there is the other reason. If you ski a groomed trail without a Pass,it is a misdemeanor
and violators could face a penalty up to$100. Whether you think it is just plain a good
idea...or you are afraid of being caught,you can purchase you ski pass quickly and easily
by mail.
Annual individual passes cost$5.00; Husband/wife,$7.50; and individual three year
passes cost$14.00. Ski passes may be ordered by calling 296-6699(have your plastic
card ready)or by mail or in person at 500 Lafayette Road.St.Paul,55155. Plan ahead,
and think S N O W.
Pickerel Lake plans Fringed by cattails, wildflowers and other native plants,Pickerel Lake is one of the
delayed Harriet Island/Cherokee/Lilydale Regional Park's most beautiful areas.
The spring-fed lake could someday accommodate swimming, fishing and wildlife
habitat, but Pickerel Lake's proximity to the Mississippi means its water quality is
constantly threatened. River flooding and the backup of pollutants into the lake degrade
water quality and introduce rough fish.
Under a plan involving use of funds from the Metropolitan Airports Commission
(MAC),the St.Paul Division of Parks and Recreation hoped to protect the lake from
floods with a dike. MAC's runway extension in the mid 80's damaged wetlands and
their permit required that wetlands elsewhere be restored.
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The proposed St. Paul Charter amendment requires an appraisal prior to any sale or
diversion with funds from the sale placed in a fund for future park acquisition.
Commitment to protections With the St.Paul charter amendment in the works,the Council faced two opportunities
tested to apply the principals of the amendment even though they were not yet bound by it. The
two situations involved park land in Highland Park which had already been diverted for
a nonpark use and the proposed transfer of park lands to the League of Minnesota Cities
for their planned expansion. In both instances the Council cast their vote as the charter
amendment would have required.
Money for Highland Park Councilmen Bill Wilson and Bob Long authored a resolution requiring the City of St.
Paul to put$185,000,the appraised value of the parcel of land in Highland Park which
was diverted from park use to the new team police building,in a special fund for future
park acquisition. The$185,000 will come from the sale of other city owned land,or
street or alley vacations. The City receives about$40,000 a year in this way so the total
amount will be made up in about five years. The resolution may receive council action
in November.
League faces choice Following a storm of protest over the proposal to sell the League of Minnesota Cities
a parcel of park land for$1500,the St.Paul City Council voted to vacate the property
making it available for purchase,but charge the League fair market value for it. Any
proceeds from the sale would be placed in the newly established fund for use in park land
acquisition.
The City gave the League 60 days to determine if they would expand at their present site
or move to a site at Rice and University where land was available which was not park
land and which was suitable for building. If the League elects not to use the vacated park
land,it will revert to its former status.
The current League site was also park land and was purchased for$1 in 1980. The need
for expanded facilities and parking led to the request for the City to sell them additional
land at the bargain basement price of$1500. The appraised value is$55,000.
Cost of Team Police Concern over the loss of open space and the appropriation of park land for non park use
building soars was the primary concern when the Team Police proposed building in the middle of
Highland Park last winter. Perhaps the cost of the project would have been a more
persuasive argument.
Construction on the building started in the summer after architectural drawings and soil
borings were completed. The borings failed to disclose that the property had been used
as a land fill. Removal of the fill material added an additional$104,000 for preparation
of the site. Construction of the police building is now at$616,000 plus the$185,000 the
City will now need to divert from City funds to reimburse the parks for the land. This
building could go down in history as one of the most expensive ever built. The cost for
the 3000 square footbuilding is now at$267 per square foot. Office space in downtown
St.Paul typically costs$60 to$100 per square foot. Last issue of Park Notes quoted an
area architect as saying,"For this(Team Police Building)to cost$170(the cost before
the recent problems were discovered)per square foot either they were gilding the lily or
they should have done more work on site selection."
Park Notes is published quarterly by the Friends of St. Paul and Ramsey County Parks. Editors are Peggy
Lynch and Jeanne Weigum. For additional information call (612)698-4543.
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1991 BUDGET The Park and Rec Department 1991 budget
requests were favorably received by the •
Council. Council requested that program fees be increased in
1991 to help offset program expenses. Summer Playground Program
fees will be increased from $10 to $15. Selected young and
adult program fees will also be increased this Winter.
PARK DEVELOPMENT
1991 Trails Development - $27, 000 was budgeted for trail
development. Two options are available. Concentrate on
asphalting the trail connecting Cummings Park and Floral Park or
asphalting trails within parks such as Cummings and Floral.
Committee members Enrooth, Johnson, McClung, Magers and
Montgomery volunteered to walk the trails and prepare
recommendations for the committee to consider at the next
meeting. Subcommittee is scheduled to walk the trails on
Sunday, September 30, at 5 PM.
Park Development - The wet Summer months have proven that
Valentine Park and Perry lower fields have serious drainage
problems. If the Arsenal complex development is delayed,
Buckley recommended that both sites be considered for renovation
in 1991 or 1992 to correct the drainage.
PROGRAM REPORT A strong creative Summer staff^helped greatly
in making the Summer program a success. New
trips and the penny carnival were good additions to the program. •
New programs - Candlemaking, ceramics, beginning ball skills,
penny carnival, fishing, and new classes filled and parents
responded with positive comments.
Oliketa Day Camp - Kindergarten and first graders were off from
school Sept. 11-14 . The cities of Mounds View, New Brighton,
Shoreview and Arden Hills planned days of camp at Camp Ojiketa.
The program was a definite success. For the four days, a total
of 150 children took part in the program.
Afterschool Classes are underway at Valentine Hills and Island
Lake Elementary Schools. This is the first time of programming
out of Island Lake. Most classes are full to maximum capacity.
Holiday Specialty Classes A Halloween Cookie Class is planned
for October 27. Thanksgiving and Christmas classes will be
planned for Saturday mornings, or days the kids are off school.
BEAUTIFICATION Messerly volunteered to direct the yard
evaluation/recognition program. Sand,
Severtson and former committee member Mary Gillis volunteered to
tour the City with Messerly. Tour was set for Thursday,
September 27 , 5: 15 PM at City Hall. The subcommittee will also
recognize neighborhoods with the most mailbox flower
decorations. •
ADJOURN Meeting adjourned at 9: 20 PM.