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AGENDA (UPDATED ON 11/22/02)
PARKS, TRAILS, & RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 26, 2002
** 7:00 P.M. **
ARDEN HILLS CITY HALL
1245 WEST HIGHWAY 96
1. Call to Order and Roll Call
2. Approve October 22, 2002 Minutes
3. Highway 96 Reconstruction /Rice Creek Corridor Master Plan
Amendment Discussions
* Aaron Parrish— Community Services Director
4. Council Update
5. Parks and Recreation Updates
6. Park Partners Program
7. 2003 Budget Overview
8. PTRC Budget Allocation Request/Motion for 2003 Budget
9. Bridge between Perry and Tony Schmidt
10. Other Items for Discussion
11. Adjourn
** If you are unable to attend this meeting please call
• Tom at (651) 634-5133 or Rich at (651) 636-1796**
�-AI�EN HILLS
MINUTES
PARKS,TRAILS & RECREATION COMMITTEE
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 22, 2002, 7:00 P.M.
ARDEN HILLS CITY HALL
1245 WEST HIGHWAY 96
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Straumann called the October 22, 2002, meeting of the Parks, Trails and Recreation
Committee to order at 7:00 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chair Rich Straumann, Cindy Garretson, Roberta Thompson, and
Patrick Krenn.
OTHERS PRESENT: Tom Moore, Parks and Recreation Director; Michelle Olson, Parks and
Recreation Supervisor; Gregg Larson, Council Liaison; and Bonita Sullivan, Recording
Secretary.
MEMBERS ABSENT: Don Messerly, Jim Crassweller, Bill Henry, Steve Zilmer, and Lou
Speggen.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
The Agenda was approved by consensus.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Approve September 24, 2002 minutes
❖ Chair Straumann stated he had a correction on page 6, Highway 65 should be Highway 96.
He referenced Item 3, 2003 Day in the Park, first paragraph stating both figures represent
2003 costs.
❖ Chair Straumann stated that there not enough members for a quorum and minutes would be
placed for approval at the next meeting.
Council Report
Council Liaison Larson provided the Committee with an overview of the following City Council
items:
❖ The Council will address the preliminary plat for Guidant on October 28, 2002. He
stated that it appears that the process has been a good one. He stated that the
Arden Hills Parks,Trails and Recreation Committee Meeting Minutes 2
October 22,2002
neighborhood has been involved in the process and Guidant has been willing to work
• with the neighborhood and make changes to the plan as needed.
❖ Council discussed the proposal by Guidant for park dedication. He explained that
Guidant would have to pay a certain amount of money for park dedication and that it
would be a significant amount of dollars. He stated that there is an agreement to spend up
to $350,000.00 of their dedication fees. He stated that Guidant is proposing to pay
approximately half and that the $350,000.00 would be invested in a new park structure at
Cummings Parks. He noted that some are not comfortable with the amount to be spent at
Cummings. He stated that to spend this much on one park would make it difficult to
justify not spending the same at other parks in the future.
❖ Guidant has indicated that they are going through the platting process and has made an
offer that includes approximately$70,000.00 to complete the trail around the Guidant site
and along County Road F. He stated that Guidant has also agreed that the Arden Hills
residents could use the trails on their campus and that the City would incorporate the
trails into the system.
❖ He stated that they are presently pumping water from Karth Lake. He explained that the
water is being pumped uphill to a stormwater drop on Windcrest and reviewed with
Committee. He stated that presently the level of the lake is well over the high water mark
and that Council agreed to pump 3.4-feet of water to reduce the water levels. He stated
that it is now one foot below the high water mark on Karth. He stated that the City
• received a petition and several complaints from residents regarding water in basements.
He stated that they would continue to pump at a reduced rate to one-half until Monday,
October 28, 2002. He stated that at that time they would reassess the water levels.
❖ He stated that Council appointed six members to TCAP. He explained that Council
reviewed and ranked the twelve applicants noting that the remaining six were appointed
as alternatives.
❖ He stated that the City is going to adopt a fireworks ordinance. He reviewed a recent law
was passed in Legislature stating that the Fire Department has developed an ordinance
that would require a permit for consumer displays.
❖ He stated that the Council would receive the Feasibility Report for the 2003 Pavement
Plan at the next City Council meeting and reviewed with the Committee.
1. Parks and Recreation Updates
A. Parks Update—Tom Moore
Mr. Moore discussed the following items with the Committee:
❖ Stated that the Buckthorn removal program has started and numerous residents are
involved. He reviewed some of the neighborhood groups involved in the removal: the
• Chatham Area Neighborhood put together a picnic for the neighborhood removal,both
the North and South Associations for Arden Hills Townhomes have groups assisting;
Arden Hills Parks,Trails and Recreation Committee Meeting Minutes 3
October 22,2002
MSI has started their removal; Perry Park Neighborhood; and Bussard Court. He stated
that the rule is if they cut the City would pick it up, chip it and put back into the area.
❖ Park signage will be completed in the next two weeks. He stated that Vacker, Inc. is the
vendor and that they would be installing 20 signs.
❖ Placed handrails along the hill areas for the Arden Hills Trails. He explained that making
the trails accessible year round is an ADA requirement and an action item in the Park
Comprehensive Plan.
❖ All flower gardens have been converted and the last fertilization has been completed.
❖ Installed three park benches at Floral Park.
❖ All crosswalks in the City are officially done and include signage. He stated that every
trail segment and handicapped accessible sidewalk should have MnDOT regulated
signage. He reviewed the County owned streets noting that the City cannot touch or
make changes to County roads. Vince Schwartz completed the stripping.
Chair Straumann suggested inviting Mr. Schwartz to a meeting to discuss other issues. Mr.
Moore agreed. Chair Straumann asked what other improvements are planned. Council Liaison
Larson asked if the underpass is in the County CIP. Mr. Moore confirmed stating that it would
be done next year.
B. Recreation Updates - Michelle Olson
Ms. Olson discussed the following items with the Committee:
❖ She stated that due to turnover in Staff the Winter Recreation Guide would not be issued.
She explained that they have temporary help but that they do not have the experience to
create the guide. She explained that the Winter Recreation Guide is generally the least
impacted as there are less classes. She stated that they are trying to send out flyers that
would normally be included in the guide and that they would monitor the response. She
stated that they would also put a version of the guide on the City website. She stated that
the Spring/Summer Guide would be back to normal.
❖ She stated that they would begin hiring for Ice Rink Attendants.
❖ Pumpkin Hunt is Friday, October 25, 2002 and the 4H Club is assisting.
❖ She stated that they have storage room issues and continue to have drainage issues in
lower level of City Hall.
❖ She reviewed the park activities with the Committee stating that they are finishing soccer.
1 ❖ Outdoor bathrooms would be removed until ice rink season.
Arden Hills Parks,Trails and Recreation Committee Meeting Minutes 4
October 22,2002
❖ Parks are working to remove the nets and are getting the winter sports equipment ready
• for the season.
Committee Member Garretson asked if they would place anything in the newsletter in the
absence of the winter guide. Council Liaison Larson asked if they would need more than a page.
Ms. Olson stated that she would be doing a one or two page flyer that would include all of the
classes. Council Liaison Larson clarified that Committee Member Garretson meant to include a
page with the newsletter or the utility mailings. Ms. Olson stated that she would see if they
could save space in the newsletter.
1. HCM- Presentation and Discussion
Tim McIlwain provided the Committee with a packet overview of the proposal for the park
shelters. Mr. McIlwain stated that they would like to receive comments from the Committee
regarding the proposal for the five shelters.
Committee Member Krenn noted Cummings Park stating that he reviewed the area for the
proposed structure. He stated that it would be sticking over the hockey rink by 17-feet. He
expressed concerns regarding the close proximity of the building to the baseball fields. Mr.
McIlwain stated that they would review the area noting that they are presently reviewing the site
plans. Committee Member Krenn noted that they do not own the parking lot or the land behind
the building.
Mr. Moore stated that this park could possibly change within the priorities and referenced
Guidant and the park dedication fee. He explained that Guidant has stated that they would build
the park structure in Cummings Park. He further explained that based on decisions to be made
by Council it could elevate Cummings to the number one park to address next year. Mr.
McIlwain stated that they could meet with the people putting together the parks to determine the
actual needs and would be sensitive to all issues.
Mr. McIlwain noted that at the last meeting they were requested to consider smaller shelters and
provided the Committee with examples. He also reviewed medium sized shelters with the
Committee. He referenced the conceptual construction cost estimates and reviewed stating that
they tried to use numbers that are historically based.
Matt Lysne reviewed the dollars with the Committee. He referenced a correction for funding
stating that it would be 2003 dollars. He reviewed the costs with the Committee. He stated that
Charles Perry costs are for the large prototype with toilet rooms and kitchens. He explained that
it has considerable square footage for the patio area and reviewed the costs with the Committee.
He explained that the prices do not include estimates for winter site construction and work for
the sewer, water or utility extensions or telephone. He stated that ventilation is included in the
cost estimate but heating and cooling costs have not been provided as a part of this breakdown.
Mr. McIlwain stated that they did not want it assumed that the buildings would be air-
conditioned. He clarified that the structures are three-season structures.
Arden Hills Parks,Trails and Recreation Committee Meeting Minutes 5
October 22,2002
Mr. Moore asked how long the process would be for the project. Mr. McIlwain stated that it
• would take approximately three to four months depending upon the type of contract. He stated
that through the bid process they are looking at approximately six months total time noting that
seven to eight months would be more realistic. He stated that it would start in the May
timeframe with completion in late summer.
Mr. Lysne reviewed the conceptual construction costs estimates for Perry, Cummings, Hazelnut,
Floral, and Valentine Parks and the prototype Picnic Shelters with the Committee. He stated that
the costs are following similar guidelines as previously discussed.
Mr. Moore asked if the SS1 is roughly the same size, dimensionally, as the warming house. Mr.
McIlwain clarified that the warming shelter is 28' x 52' and the SS is 38' x 20' and reviewed the
differences with the Committee. Mr. Lysne noted that the warming shelter is a standard size that
could accommodate a fair amount of people.
Council Liaison Larson asked for clarification of the rationale for two buildings and asked if it
could be done as one building. Mr. Lysne stated that they could be made into one adding that
one of the warming house styles does open up as a shelter. He reviewed the concepts with
Council Liaison Larson. He stated that if the warming shelter is a priority he suggested a smaller
warming house at the top of the hill without toilets. He explained that they could do a single
building where a warming house does open up as a shelter. Ms. Olson noted that the hill is not
very safe and there has been discussion to have the grade lessened.
Mr. Lysne reviewed Floral Park noting that it follows the same pattern with toilets and a small
storage room. He stated that it would be a medium size building similar to the picnic shelter at
Hazelnut Park. He stated that Valentine Park was a fairly substantial building and that this
would be a warming shelter that could be opened up to a picnic shelter. Ms. Olson asked if they
plan to place it in the same place as the current building. Mr. Moore explained that it would be
moved where the swingsets are presently located.
Mr. Lysne reviewed the new prototype shelters with the Committee. He stated that Floral and
Valentine Park are within the $300,000 range and that Perry Park is approximately$500,000.00.
Committee Member Thompson clarified that the cost of the picnic tables is not included. Mr.
McIlwain stated that Ramsey County normally provides the picnic tables.
Mr. Moore stated that the shelter options,with costs, are exactly what they wanted to see. Mr.
McIlwain stated that they could provide further information if necessary. He stated that next
year would be a good year for construction bidding and that they would get a fair price.
Mr. McIlwain referenced the material and image studies stating that they would like to review
the prairie style structure. He reviewed the building image and material palettes with the
Committee. He provided a picture board that included various styles of shelters for the
Committee to review.
Mr. Lysne noted that if they can find the right building that would suit Arden Hills that each
location would be site specific with respect to the materials used structurally.
Arden Hills Parks,Trails and Recreation Committee Meeting Minutes 6
October 22,2002
Mr. Moore stated that the wear and tear factor is important and noted that the "Tony Schmidt"
• design is nice and kid-proof.
Committee Member Thompson noted her agreement with the masonry style and suggested
warming the appearance with wood. She stated that they would like something more unique,
with character,warmth and durability for use. Mr. McIlwain suggested considering a natural
stone for the structures and reviewed the style samples with the Committee.
Chair Straumann asked what the pillars at Tony Schmidt are made of. Mr. McIlwain stated that
it is masonry based and stucco wrapped. Mr. Lysne stated that they have had much success in
wrapping the building in wood noting that the repair would only involve removing the section in
need of replacement.
Mr. McIlwain stated that three of the styles discussed fit within the costs the Committee is
considering noting that natural stone could push the cost higher a bit
Mr. Moore noted that the hybrid wood, with Tony Schmidt flair, is the preference. Mr.
McIlwain stated that they would do a more detailed study that would include colors and material
and bring in examples for the next meeting. He stated that they could do further studies for sites
that still carry a concern and suggested a survey of the area to better determine locations for the
structures.
Council Liaison Larson noted the cost estimates stating that they are well over$2 million for five
• parks. He expressed concerns regarding the cost of the facilities stating that it does not include
any other park expenditures. He explained that the Park Fund could not support the costs for all
five parks in addition to anticipated costs for parks. He stated that Council would ask how they
determined the size of the building stating that the enclosed space appears to contribute to costs
significantly. He asked how many parks have permanent lavatory facilities. Ms. Olson stated
that one park has lavatory facilities. Mr. Moore referenced the repairs of the old water main
noting that the intent is to replace the stubs. He further explained that wherever they are doing a
PMP project close to a park that they would start stubbing in to provide water and sanitary at
these parks.
Council Liaison Larson noted the costs for the buildings is substantial and dollars are not
available and suggested deciding what is truly needed at the parks.
Committee Member Thompson stated this is what part of their planning session included adding
they did walk thru to determine the sizes. Council Liaison Larson acknowledged that they did
the walkthrough but expressed concerns that they did not include consideration of the dollars.
Mr. Lysne clarified that this is a master plan and that it is long term.
Committee Member Thompson suggested reviewing the costs and asked if they could determine
what would be appropriate for portable bathrooms. Council Liaison Larson suggested building a
shielded enclosure.
. Ms. Olson acknowledged that with bathrooms comes more maintenance and requirements for
staffing adding that Valentine Park is not the most utilized and that they should consider the most
utilized parks for the bathroom facilities.
Arden Hills Parks,Trails and Recreation Committee Meeting Minutes 7
October 22,2002
• Mr. Lysne reviewed various structure styles without bathroom facilities and explained the
structural layout to the Committee with respect to satellites. Mr. McIlwain clarified that they
understood that this is a long-term plan and that they have a better understanding of what they
are looking for that incorporates the costs.
Mr. Moore stated that this is the first time they have had a Park Comprehensive Plan for the City
to determine the park needs. He stated that now they have a variety of options that can be
considered and for the first time this department has legitimate documentation from residents
that states Parks and Recreation is an issue. He clarified that this would be an ongoing process
for this Committee, for the Parks Department and the City. He stated that he would like Mr.
McIlwain and Mr. Lynse to return on December 17, 2002 at 7:00 p.m. He asked that they return
with the hybrid and a different structure at Valentine Park.
Mr. Lysne stated they would also bring samples of materials for their review.
Council Liaison Larson suggested that the Committee discuss the structure at Valentine Park
further. Mr. Moore agreed and stated that he would contact them with the results of their
discussion.
2. Park Partners Program
Committee Member Thompson asked Council Liaison Larson if this has been agreed to yet.
• Council Liaison Larson stated no and explained that this is not their proposal and received
feedback from Guidant.
Committee Member Thompson asked if they know why they want private contractors to manage
the construction. Council Liaison Larson stated that they did not know.
Committee Member Thompson stated that a preliminary cost estimate had been requested and
asked if it had been provided. Mr. Moore stated that he had provided the cost estimate.
Committee Member Thompson noted the work session and agreed with Council Liaison Larson
that this is a bit frustrating in taking half the money offered from Guidant to pay for one building
and asked if there are other options. Council Liaison Larson explained the options to
Committee. He stated that it would be $350,000 in addition to the $70,000 for trails.
Committee Member Thompson expressed concerns on the claims for trails and clarified that the
trails discussed were actually owned by Guidant. Council Liaison Larson confirmed that the
trails are owned by Guidant. He reviewed the trail system to be located on campus noting that
they want connections to the City trails.
Committee Member Thompson expressed concerns about the potential encumbrances to the City
trails if Guidant were to apply security to their trails.
Council Liaison Larson clarified the PUD process to the Committee stating it is a win-win
situation for both sides.
Arden Hills Parks,Trails and Recreation Committee Meeting Minutes 8
October 22,2002
Committee Member Krenn noted that Valentine Park's current planned shelter is smaller and
• suggested cutting the storage space at Cummings to reduce costs.
Ms. Olson noted that the point person for this subject is not present and suggested adding to next
month's agenda.
Mr. Moore clarified that the intent is for partnerships with groups such as MSI that would place
an interpretive center. He stated that the center would share names with the City and the Partner.
Committee Member Thompson clarified that the intent is to determine who they want to partner
with and what they would expect from them. She stated that she does not have any problem
giving credit such as plaques that would identify the partner. Ms. Olson noted that this could
also include special events for sponsorship from companies like Guidant and MSI.
Chair Straumann suggested developing a matrix for review at the next meeting
3. 2003 Budget Overview
Mr. Moore suggested placing this on next agenda—departments are not prepared yet with what
needs to be discussed.
4. Next Meeting Agenda
• ❖ Park Partners Program
❖ 2003 Budget Overview
❖ PTRC Budget Allocation Request/Motion for 2003 Budget
❖ Bridge between Perry and Tony Schmidt
5. Other Items for Discussion
Committee Member Thompson noted a motion to approve the PTRC requests for the City
Council to allocate $250,000.00 for 2003 and asked what they are trying to accomplish with the
request. Committee Member Krenn explained that it was an amount of money that could be used
to plan what they would like to do for 2003.
Council Liaison Larson asked if this was an authorization from the Park Fund. Chair Straumann
clarified that it is not. Committee Member Thompson expressed concerns stating that she does
not agree with the process. She suggested that they discuss this issue further at the November
meeting. Council Liaison Larson reviewed the various options for the funding with the
Committee.
Mr. Moore reviewed the intent for the funding process and requests noting that they would like
to move together with the Council in the planning and funding process for the City parks.
Arden Hills Parks,Trails and Recreation Committee Meeting Minutes 9
October 22,2002
Chair Straumann suggested a write up in the newsletter looking for potential volunteers for Park
• Committee membership.
MOTION: Motion by consensus to adjourn the meeting at 9:15 p.m. The motion carried
unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
Bonita Sullivan
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MINUTES
FINAL MEETING
CITY OF ARDEN HILLS,MINNESOTA
HIGHWAY 96 TASK FORCE MEETING
WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 29, 1997
7:00 P.M.
ARDEN HILLS CITY HALL - PUBLIC WORKS LUNCHROOM
1. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was officially called to order at 7:08 p.m. by Chair Tholen.
2. ROLL CALL
Present were: Chair, John Tholen, Public Safety Commission; Chuck Stoddard,
Finance Committee; Dave Sand, Planning Commission, Don Messerly, Parks and
Recreation Committee; Lynn Lawyer, resident; Bill Sanders, Landscape Architect
for Sanders, Wacker& Bergly Inc.; Dwayne Stafford, Public Works Superintendent;
and Kevin Ringwald, Community Development Director.
Absent was: Mick Richardson, resident and Tom Andreasen,'Business Development
Committee.
3. APPROVAL OF OCTOBER 7, 1997 MINUTES
The minutes of October 7, 1997 were unanimously approved as submitted after a
( motion by Stoddard and a second by Messerly.
4. REVIEW OF DESIGN FOR ENTRY WAY SIGNS
Mr. Sanders reviewed the design of the entry way signs and stated that the cost per
sign would be approximately $30,000. Mr. Sanders also reviewed how this concept
could be used for secondary entry ways and also at the City's parks. The task force
concluded that the proposed style of sign could be incorporated into other signage
that the City may choose to build in the future. The task force concluded that in the
future that further design studies could be done with these other signs to more fully
refine their designs.
The task force concluded the two entry way signs should be located along Highway
96. The first at the southwest comer of Highway 96 and Lexington Avenue. The
second at the southeast corner of Highway 96 and Interstate 35W.
The task force reviewed samples provided Mr. Sanders of various materials and
colors which could be used for the sign and the retaining walls. In regards to the
sign face, the task force concluded that a monolithic cast stone (8 inches wide) in a
light gray with recessed black letters would be most aesthetically pleasing. The task
force also concluded that an"anti-graffiti" coating should be applied to the sign.
The cost of this coating is estimated at $.10 per square foot every three years.
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A. Entry Way Signage. The task force recommends that two entry -,,,-ay signs
should be located along Highway 96. The first at the southwest corner of
Highway 96 and Lexington Avenue. The second at the southeast comer of
Highway 96 and Interstate 35W.
The task force recommends that the sign face be constructed of a monolithic
cast stone (8 inches wide) in a light gray with recessed black letters. Also,
that "anti-graffiti" coating should be applied to the sign. The task force
recommends that the City consider using Windsor font on the entry way
signage.
The task force recommends that cut stone pieces of granite, which is a waste
product of the manufacturing process, be used for the retaining walls. The
task force recommends that the rainbow colored granite be used for the
retaining wall color. The task force also recommends at-grade lighting be
provided behind the retaining walls to provide directional lighting at the sign
face.
The task force recommends that the City pursue.the.mature evergreen
landscaping on the Twin Cities Army Ammunition Plant(TCAAP) to
include behind the signs. The task force also recommends the inclusion of
annual planting beds with retaining walls to help visually define the entry
signs. Lastly, the task force recommends pursuing the assistance of Ramsey
County for surplus dirt for berming at the Lexington Avenue sign, given
Ramsey County's current road construction in the area.
B. Median Landscaping. The task force recommends the inclusion of turf with
underground irrigation as the preferred ground cover for the median. The
task force also recommends that the addition of ornamental trees at the ends
of these tree groups (provided by Ramsey County) with low level shrubs
beneath the ornamental trees.
C. City Hall access. The task force would recommend that if the
redevelopment of the City Hall site does not require the use of the median
cut (in front of Public Works driveway), then the median cut be relocated to
Keithson Drive, which is at the top of the hill and has the potential for
expansion into the Reiling property.
D. Noise wall. The task force does not recommend the provision of a noise
wall, but would recommend the provision of additional landscaping/berming
by Ramsey County in those residential areas (ie., Arden Manor Mobile
Home Park) in which residents are directly adjacent to the roadway and do
not have the proper building setback.
DRAFT
ARDEN HILLS CITY COUNCIL - DECEMBER 8 1997 6
Mr. Brown explained that if it is decided to reconstruct Glenpaul Avenue, rather than overlay it,
it would be a major addition to the Project. He stated if it is determined the existing blacktop is )
too thin, as suggested by Mr. Linders,the project can be removed or slated for the future.
Councilmember Malone stated this is the hearing where the Council determines if the engineer
should proceed with project plans which will include borings. He concurred that if it makes no
sense to overlay Glenpaul Avenue it can be removed from the Project. Councilmember Malone
commented on the clay soil in Arden Hills which results in some problems with roadway
cracking.
MOTION: Malone moved..and Hicks seconded a motion to adopt Resolution#97-59,
Authorizing,the Preparation,of Detailed Plans and Specifications in the Matter of
the 1998 Street Improvement Project. The motion carried unanimously (4-0).
Mayor Probst reviewed the notification process which will occur as this project proceeds and
thanked all for attending. He invited the audience to remain for the rest of the meeting agenda.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. November 24„1997 Regular City Council Meeting
MOTION: Aplikowski moved and Hicks seconded a motion to approve the November 24,
1997,Regular City Council Meeting minutes as presented. The motion carried
unanimously(470).,
CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Claims.and Payroll
B. Transfer of On-Sale Wine License
MOTION: Malone moved and Aplikowski seconded a motion to approve the Consent .
Calendar,as submitted and authorize execution of all necessary documents
contained therein. ,The,motion carried,unanimously (4-0).
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Mayor Probst invited those present to come forward and address the Council on any items not
already on the agenda. There were no public comments.
UNFINISHED AND,NEW BUSINESS
A. Highway 96 Improvement Project,Task Force Recommendations
Mr. Kevin Ringwald, Community Development Director, introduced John Tholen, Chair of the
Highway 96 Task Force, who was in attendance to present their recommendations related to
Highway 96. He also introduced John Sanders, landscape architect for this project.
ARDEN HILLS CITY COUNCIL - DECEMBER 8 1997 8
utilizing the existing railroad bridge to gain access to.the Long Lake Regional Park. He stated
the Task Force believes the trail, as designed by Ramsey County, presents a safety hazard.
Mr. Tholen stated the Task Force does not recommend the inclusion of sidewalks on the north
side of Highway 96 but would recommend that if development of the TCAAP is imminent, then
this item be reviewed at that time to determine the appropriate location for trails/sidewalks
within the TCAAP property.
Mr. Tholen stated the Task Force does not recommend the provision of a noise wall but would
recommend the provision of additional landscaping/berming by Ramsey County in those
residential areas (i.e., Arden Manor Mobile Home Park) in which residents are directly adjacent
to the roadway and do not have the proper building setbacks. Mr. Tholen stated the Task Force
would recommend that if the redevelopment of the City Hall site does not require the use.of the
median cut (in front of the Public Works driveway), then the median cut be relocated to Keithson
Drive, which is at the top of the hill and has the potential for expansion into the Reiling property.
Councilmember Hicks inquired regarding the dimensions of the proposed sign. Mr. Sanders
stated it is about 15 feet long and five feet high.
Councilmember Malone expressed concern with the cost estimate for the signs and stated he
would have a difficult time voting to support it. Mr. Tholen stated this corner is currently an
eyesore and it would be appropriate to have a nicely landscaped corner with a City sign.
Councilmember Malone stated he believes there may be an alternate, creative way to handle this
at a lower cost. He stated he supports the recommendation with regard to the median cut, berm,
trails, and sidewalk.
Councilmember Malone asked how far apart Shoreview's lights are. Mr. Brown stated they are
about 300 feet on center per side, or 150 feet apart (zig zag).
Councilmember Malone stated if he had to prioritize the issues of the sign, landscaping, and
lights, he would support the lights.
Mr. Tholen stated the Task Force considered lighting as more of a future improvement.
Mayor Probst stated it would be nice to find a way to reduce the cost of the sign but he believes
there is value in such a City sign and, perhaps, it is a matter of timing this project. He stated he
supports a sign project that looks nice, will be there for a long time, and something the City can
be proud of. He expressed concern with the proposed size of the Shoreview sign. Mayor Probst
stated he is grateful to the Task Force for their work and believes their recommendations are"on
target." He commented that an irrigation system will allow proper maintenance of the sign area.
Mayor Probst stated he also concurs with the Task Force recommendation to not consider a noise
• wall.
Councilmember Aplikowski stated she supports all of the recommendations, including the sign.
However, she has some apprehension about the irrigation but would support it over lighting. She
,- S EN HILLS
MEMORANDUM
DATE: November 14, 2002 Agenda Item 2.B
TO: Mayor Dennis Probst
Council Member Beverly Aplikowski
Council Member David Grant
Council Member Gregg Larson
Council Member Lois Rem
Joe Lynch, City Administrator /f
FROM: Aaron Parrish—Community Services Director1'
SUBJECT: Rice Creek Corridor Master Park Plan Amendment
ENCLOSURES: 1. Arden Hills Future Land Use Map (Comprehensive Plan)
2. Vento Reuse Plan Map: Potential Excess Area
3. Arden Hills Transportation Map (Comprehensive Plan)
4. 11-13-02 E-mail from Greg Mack
5. Proposed Amendment to the Rice Creek North Regional Trail
Master Plan.
Overview
Ramsey County is requesting that the City evaluate a proposed park master plan amendment to
the Rice Creek North Regional Trail Master Plan. In particular, it is necessary for the City to
make a finding that the proposed park plan amendment is consistent with the Arden Hills
Comprehensive Plan.
Analysis
Since the amendment was only received Wednesday November 13`h, 2002, a complete analysis
of the proposed amendment cannot be provided. However, staff would make the following
comments:
1. Land Use: The Future Land Use Plan identifies this area Park Preserve. This land use
category includes natural and scenic areas that are to be preserved for public use. This is
consistent with the proposed amendment.
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Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:25 PM
To: 'aaron.parrish@ci.arden-hills.mn.us'
Cc: Mack, Greg
Subject: Rice Creek North Regional Trail Master Plan Amendment
Aaron,
Attached is a proposed amendment that incorporates the wildlife corridor into the Rice Creek
North Regional Trail. The amendment follows the format Ramsey County has used in the past
to amend existing master plans. This proposed amendment was presented to the Ramsey
County Parks and Recreation Commission on November 12, 2002. Commission members
spoke in support of the amendment as proposed. I asked them to defer taking action until the
city of Arden Hills had an opportunity for further review.
I anticipate, based on our past conversations, that this will be an item of discussion at your
upcoming November 18, 2002, council workshop. I'd appreciate knowing the time of the
workshop. As I mentioned in my voicemail to you, the proposed amendment addresses the
city of Arden Hills concern about access into the primer/tracer site; however, I have not had an
opportunity to meet with representatives of the National Guard to discuss specifics of this
access. I expect that Commissioner Tony Bennett and I will be meeting with General Andreotti
and Colonel Lord to discuss vehicular access to the Rice Creek Corridor and the primer/tracer
site.
Please let me know if you have questions regarding the proposed amendment.
Greg Mack
Ramsey County Parks & Recreation
2015 North Van Dyke Street
Maplewood, MN 55109
651-748-2500
11/14/2002
PROPOSED AMENDMENT
TO THE RICE CREEK NORTH REGIONAL TRAIL
MASTER PLAN
The following amendment to the Rice Creek North Regional Trail Master Plan (June
1998) has been prepared and is being proposed by the Ramsey County Parks and
Recreation Department. Acquisition of the land included in the proposed
amendment will preserve a corridor which links the Rice Creek corridor with the
1500-acre preserve under the management of the Minnesota National Guard. The
corridor will preserve a hydrological and wildlife movement functions, as well as
future trail connections to the large preserve. The property is currently part of the
Twin Cities Army Ammunition Plant (TCAAP) and an "Excessing Process" has been
initiated to dispose of the property.
Amendment to Section VIII ACQUISITION DETAILS
A. Parcel Information
The 1998 Master Plan identified two parcels for acquisition; Parcel A, 113 acres
from TCAAP and Parcel B, 11 acres from MnDOT. (See enclosed Boundary Map).
1. Amendment Action: This amendment proposes that the acquisition boundary
for the regional trail corridor be expanded to include an additional 49 acres of
TCAAP property. The property has been identified as Parcel C and Parcel D.
Parcel C: U.S. Dept. of Defense, 42.75 acres
Parcel D: U.S. Dept. of Defense, 6.25 acres
2. Amendment Justification: The proposed amendment will enable Ramsey County
to acquire an important natural corridor between the existing boundary of the
regional trail and the large nature preserve managed by the Minnesota National
Guard.
Preservation of the wildlife corridor is consistent with the 1996 "Vision for the
Future" plan (a.k.a. Vento Reuse Plan) adopted by the TCAAP Reutilization
Committee appointed by the late Congressman Bruce Vento. The Minnesota
Department of Natural Resources (DNR) has identified the wildlife corridor as an
integral ecological link between Rice Creek on the west and a future regional park
reserve on the east. In addition to its local ecological significance, the DNR believes
that the wildlife corridor is a key link to two regionally significant ecological corridors
— the Mississippi River and the St. Croix River corridors.
The additional area has been identified as two separate parcels. Parcel D has
contamination which must be cleaned up prior to a transfer to Ramsey County. (See
map). Parcel C is free of contamination and could be transferred as soon as the
excessing process is complete.
3. Restoration/Development: The area contains several small buildings, roads and
a railroad spur. The buildings will be removed within five years. It is anticipated that
the roads and railroad will be removed in conjunction and cooperation with
development of the properties to the north and south. The city of Arden Hills has
expressed concern about future road access to the adjacent 66-acre "Primer-
Tracer" site. To maintain the integrity of the wildlife corridor, road access to this site
should be provided from the north off County Road I and follow the west boundary
of the property licensed to the Minnesota National Guard.
The area of contamination (Parcel D) will be remediated by the U.S. Department of
Army in accordance with the standards agreed upon by the Army and the
Environmental Protection Agency. Activities are underway to cleanup contaminants
on the site. In the event that the site is not suitable for public access, fencing the
site may be necessary. Fencing should be installed in a manner that allows for
animal movement under the fence.
Restoration of the natural drainage corridor and vegetation will be accomplished by
Ramsey County. All restoration activities will utilize native plant material and be
coordinated with the Minnesota National Guard to assure consistency throughout
the corridor.
The only recreational development anticipated will be a future trail connection
between the Rice Creek corridor and the Minnesota National Guard property. This
trail connection will be subject to agreements for use of the National Guard property
for trail uses such as Nordic skiing. The property will be available for informal, non-
consumptive outdoor recreation activities such as nature study and birding.
Attachments:
Attachment A — Boundary Map Illustrating Approved Rice Creek North Regional
Trail Corridor
Attachment B — 2000 Aerial Photo of Wildlife Corridor
Attachment C —Wildlife Corridor, Vegetation
Attachment D —Wildlife Corridor, Existing Man-Made Features
Attachment E —Wildlife Corridor, Proposed Development
Attachment F — Rice Creek North Regional Trail Corridor Development
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