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HomeMy WebLinkAbout11-26-1985 PTRC Meeting Agenda - Minutes , • AGENDA Regular Parks and Recreation Committee Meeting Village of Arden Hills Tuesday, Novembei .26, 1985 - 7:30 p.m. Village Hall C�1. Call to Order and-Roll Call L,i f1. Approval of Minutes, October 22, 19$5. V---'3. Council Report 4. Review of Park Survey Results //ww Review Map of Parks and Trails ��— E,--;.5. Hamline Avenue Improvement Project - Review of Feasibility Report;_ 6. Winter Program Proposal _ Miscellaneous/New Business 1986 Park Improvement Program—Possible Grant Applications December Tour to Observe Types of Hockey Lighting Available y- Status Report- Mounds View Basketball Association 8. Adjournment PLEASE CALL THE VILLAGE HALL, 633-5676, IF YOU CANNOT ATTEND THIS , MEETING OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE. - Minutes of Regular Parks and Recreation Committee Meeting • Village of Arden Hills October 22, 1985 Village Hall Call to Order The meeting was called to order at 7:40 p.m. by Chairman Sand. Roll Call Present: D. Sand, A. Anderson, K. Enrooth, D. Messerly, J. Mishek, T. Mulcahy, J. Otto, M. Peterson Absent: G. Dreyling, D. Klick Also Present: Councilmember N. Hansen Mayor R. Woodburn Parks Director J. T. Buckley Mr. Louis Jambois, Supervisor Parks and Recreation Section Community Development Division Minnesota Department of Energy and Economic Development Approval of Minutes The minutes of September 24 were approved as submitted. Discussion of Availability of Grant Money for Park Development Mr. Jambois' office administers grants for LAWCON (Federal Land and Water Con- servation) and the State Legislative Commission on Minnesota Resources (LCMR). • Two types of grants are considered; one focuses on funding for natural - resource-oriented recreation facilities 'such as swimming beaches, trails and boat launches; the second is a special program created by LCMR for the develop- ment of athletic fields. Mr. Jambois stated that the total amount of money available for this biennium is much lower than in previous years. If grants are awarded, the Village is required to provide matching funds (in land, materials, labor, or cash). Grantees are allowed three construction seasons to complete approved projects. A Village may submit several applica- tions (for several park areas) but may receive only one grant per biennium. Applications must be in Mr. Jambois' office by May 6, 1985, for grants for this biennium. The application itself is not difficult to complete; does not require inclu- sion of long narrative. It does require completed site plan, cost breakdowns, maps, information on the points discussed in the next paragraphs. Criteria used in recommending approval of the first type of grant '(focusing on development of natural amenities) (LAWCON) include: (1) site quality, (2) design considerations (park design, is it safe, attractive, (3) accessi- bility, (4) redevelopment (priority is given to redevelopment of deteriorated or outdated park sites, and restoration of natural character of the land- scape), (5) floodplain (if park is located in a floodplain, extra points are given), (6) trails, fishing/boating, swimming beaches (extra points are given if any or all of these amenities are included - Mr. Jambois added that in this biennium of limited funds, at least one or two would have to be included for • the grant to receive serious attention), (7) special population (serving handicapped, elderly, minority), (8) interorganizational cooperation (working with and use of facility by school districts, surrounding villages, etc. ) Minutes of Regular Parks and Recreation Committee Meeting, October 22 Page two • (9) recreation priorities (does the plan include the facilities rated highest in need in survey of citizens' wishes?) (10) a well-thought-out comprehensive plan. Criteria used in awarding the second type of grant (athletic field develop- ment - LCMR) are (1) interorganizational cooperation, (2) site accessibility, (3) population demographics (young, growing community), (4) site suitability, (5) design considerations, (6) facility demand and (7) recreation capacity (priority given to combination projects, �.g. baseball/football fields). Mr. Jambois reviewed the Arden Hills' "Guidelines for Park Development", felt that Cummings Park could possibly qualify for grant money (LAWCON) if access to the lake and a fishing dock or small boat launch were added to the plan. North Snelling park probably does not have enough acreage to qualify. For LCMR (athletic field) grant, the Arsenal would score very highly, except on site accessibility; would probably not qualify this biennium since land is not available nor plans prepared. Committee will discuss applications for grants at a later meeting. Council Report Councilmember Hansen reported on Council activities of interest to the Parks Committee, including progress of third fire station, reconstruction plans for Hamline Avenue, and new construction planned for Arden Hills. • In answer to Committee questions, Hansen stated that the engineer's feasi- bility study on Hamline Avenue will be ready for Committee review at the November meeting, as provided in the Transportation Element of the Comprehensive Plan (requirement added as recommended by Parkway ad hoc Committee). The Council will hold a public hearing in December to allow all residents to review the plans and submit their input. Winter Program Activities Possibilities Buckley stated that the Finance Committee felt there was considerable interest in cross-country skiing, and suggested facilities be provided for that and other outdoor winter activities. Buckley stated he will be providing maps of trails available; hopes that in the future the trails can be groomed and kept up better; is not feasible to do that now, but he will have the trails marked more clearly. He asked that the Committee also think of other possibilities for winter programs that could be incorporated in the 1985-86 winter program; noted there may also be suggestions for programs in the survey results. Buckley distributed copies of "1985 - Summer Facility Use Inventory" showing all facilities heavily used in the season just past. 1986 Park Improvement Proposal Committee will meet in December, when hockey season has begun, to visit some lighted rinks to assess effects of different types of lighting available. Plans will then be made for a meeting with Cummings Park area- residents in January or February to discuss their wishes regarding construction of hockey rink, shelter and lights. Miscellaneous/New Business Otto asked possibility of installation of traffic lights at the Highway 96/ • Hamline intersection; feels it is very dangerous, traffic count must be very high. Hansen advised him to contact the chairman of the- Public Safety Committee with his concerns. Committee asked for a report from the Mounds View Basketball Association on the season just completed. Park and Program Survey Returns Committee members are asked to meet Monday, October 28, at 7:00 p.m. at the Village Hall, to help tabulate survey forms returned. Adiournment The meeting was adjourned at 9:45 p.m. Submitted by Shirley Marshall. THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE WILL BE NOVEMBER 26, 1985, 7:30 P.M. VILLAGE HALL • i Minutes of Regular Parks and Recreation Committee Meeting • Village of Arden Hills November 26, 1985 Village Hall Call to Order The meeting was called to order at 7:35 by Chair Sand. Roll Call Present: D. Sand, A. Anderson, G. Dreyling, K. Enrooth, M. Gillies, D. Messerly, J. Mishek, T. Mulcahy, J. Otto, M. Peterson Absent: D. Klick Also Present: Councilmember N. Hansen City Planner Orlyn Miller Parks Director J. T. Buckley Approval of Minutes It was moved by Mulcahy, seconded by Anderson, that the minutes of October 22 be approved as submitted. Motion carried unanimously. Hamline Avenue Feasibility Study, Phase II Planner Miller stated that the Hamline Avenue Feasibility Study was referred to this committee by Council under authority of the Amendment to the Trans- portation Plan, which states that any improvement to a designated parkways route must be referred to the Parks Committee and to the Planning Commission. He stated that he had originally recommended that Hamline Avenue not be desi- nated as a parkway, because of lack of potential for parkway-type improvement. • z..The Parkway Ad Hoc Committee choose, however, to designate Hamline as a po- tential parkway, because the presently considered improvement was pending at that time, and thus felt it offered an opportunity to try to apply some of the parkway concepts. Deterrents to development of Hamline Avenue as a parkway include: 1. High traffic volume 2,_ Limited right-of-way of 66 feet. 3.: .Preponderance of overhead utility lines (entire length on one side, -half of .length on other side). 4, Limited availability of landscaping space; fairly extensive development. 5. F Right-,of-Vay not,sufficient to provide a median. Miller je.lt the only possibility for including any parkway-type amenities _were ,plantings.of larger shrubs and smaller trees under the utility lines, and/or either securing some land from private landowners, or encouraging the privatelandowners to add plantings along the route. The- F:easibiliz.y.Study shows a walkway on the west side of the road, two driving, janes, ,. nd a center-turn lane. Committee concerns included: - Flow of traffic on Hamline. . .will the proposed improvement increase the flow? Miller stated present usage is 6,000 to 7,000 cars per day; expect future usage to increase to 8,000. It was noted that employees of Cardiac Pacemakers and other businesses along County Road F contribute to this total, as well as the ±1,000 Arden Hills homes which access to Hamline Avenue. Minutes of Regular Parks and Recreation Committee Meeting, November 26 Page two Miller felt only thing that could decrease Hamline Avenue traffic flow would be a change in the I-694 intersection. He noted that Hamline is a City-State Aid road, is considered a "collector" street, whereas Lexington is considered "minor arterial". Partial funding for this improvement is coming from MSA funds, which necessitates meeting State standards on lane width, etc. - Anderson stated she did not feel the center lane would "do any good"; would only make traffic move faster; is concerned about non-residents using the route more intensely as a connection from Highway 96 to I-694; asked how resi- dents wishing to use the pathway would be able to cross the road. She felt the proposed plan created too much of a through-way; makes the route more attractive for through traffic; feels the route functions just fine as it is, would like only addition of a bikeway. - Mulcahy asked if resident input had been obtained to this plan; does this represent an improvement for the residents along Hamline, or just create more problems for them? - Mishek, Enrooth and Peterson reported their observations that a center turn lane improves safety, should be included in the plans. - Anderson asked if it would be feasible to cdnsider eliminating the turn lane, providing instead a parking lane and striped bikeway along the road. She expressed concern about the speeds drivers may average when the road is improved, and safety of anyone attempting to cross the road. Committee discussed at length various methods of providing a way for persons to cross Hamline safely at various places along the route, felt this was a definite need. Suggestions included sidewalk on both sides of the route, crosswalks, or stop signs (at Wyncrest and/or Briarknoll). Motion was made by Gillies, seconded by Mishek, that Committee recommend to Council that $50,000 - for a planting plan and for plantings along Hamline Avenue - be included in the project's budget, and that a solution for the persons who will be isolated on either side of the route if only one sidewalk is constructed be sought. Motion carried unanimously. Council Report Councilmember Hansen reported on Council actions of interest to the Parks Committee. She reported that the Public Works Committee had looked into the advisability of establishing a Village leaf pickup service; conclusions will probably be that it is not practical to provide such a service. The Council has ordered a feasibility study for construction of an additional water tower. Council has approved profits from pull-tab gambling operation at Blue Fox going to the Park Fund, subject to Attorney Lynden's approval. • Council will be appointing 1986 committee members soon, invited all present committee members to remain for an additional year as members of this com- mittee, and asked they inform her before January 1 if they do not wish to Minutes of Regular Parks and Recreation Committee Meeting, November 26 • Page three be re appointed. Park Survey Results - Map of Parks and Trails Buckley stated that the next Town Crier will carry a summary of the results of the Parks survey, and a map of the Village parks and trails. Committee will review the survey more thoroughly in January as it begins planning for future park improvements. Winter Program Proposal The Winter Program Proposal was reviewed and approved. December Meeting Schedule Committee concurred to try to schedule a visit to various hockey rinks to observe types of lighting available during the week between Christmas and New Year. Buckley will provide a listing of locations where different types of lighting can be observed to all Committee members. No regular December meeting of the committee will be held. January-February Agenda Items Park Improvement Program Grant Applications Lights, Hockey Rink, Shelter, Cummings Park Mounds View Basketball Association - This Association has just completed • its second season for girls; sign-up for boys is just being conducted; Buckley will arrange for someone from the Association to attend the February meeting to discuss its progress. Adjournment The meeting was adjourned at 9:55 p.m. Submitted by Shirley Marshall. THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE WILL BE HELD JANUARY 28, 1985, 7:30 P.M. VILLAGE HALL. ARDEN HILLS PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT PROPOSED PROGRAM ACTIVITIES Winter 1985-86 1984-85 Winter Program 1985-86 Proposed Program Youth Youth Ice Skating Instruction Ice Skating Instruction Elementary Gymnastics Elementary Gymnastics Pre-school Pre-school Elementary Age Elementary Age Break Dancing Tap, Ballet, Jazz Dancing Sports Club Floor Hockey Adults Adults Men's Basketball League (CDC) Men's Basketball League (CDC) Three Man Basketball Three Man Basketball Men's Open Volleyball Men's Open Volleyball Co-Rec Volleyball (CDC) Co-Rec Volleyball (CDC) Co-Rec Volleyball (LOL) Co-Rec Volleyball (LOL) Jazzercise Jazzercise Thinning Your Thighs and Slimming Jackie Sorensen Aerobics your Hips Racquetball Instruction . Tennis Instruction Youths and Adults Youths and Adults Winter Skating (Rinks and Ponds) Winter Skating (Rinks and Ponds) Bethel Intramural Broomball Bethel Intramural Broomball Co-Rec Broomball Co-Rec Broomball Aquatic Program Aquatic Program Joint Sponsorship/Assist Other Groups Joint Sponsorship/Assist Other Groups Mustang Basketball Mustang Basketball Girl's Gymnastics (Mary Jane Olson) Girl's Gymnastics (Mary Jane Olson) Youth Speed Skating Youth Speed Skating North Suburban Community Orchestra North Suburban Community Orchestra Cross County Skiing (Hennepin Cty. Cross Country Skiing (Hennepin Cty. Park Preserves) Park Preserves Seniors' Programs (Edgewood Community Seniors' Program (Edgewood Community Center) Center) People Going Places People Going Places Women's Volleyball League (N.B. ) Women's Volleyball League (N.B. ) Men's Basketball League (N.B. ) Men's Basketball League (N.B. ) Men's Broomball League (Shoreview) Men's Broomball League (Shoreview) Men's Volleyball League (Shoreview) Men's Volleyball League (Shoreview) Four Man Hockey League (Moundsview) Four Man Hockey League (Moundsview) 55 Alive Mature Driving • II 9 I i N 1 �5 (14) (S) -------------- Ll Lv--- _ T r NEW gRIGNTON z_� _ F r -. 21 . (8) - - (9) O__-+!+ff" � -w• VILLAGE OF ARDEN HILLS , MINNESOTA 4w000soH Indicates Pedestrian Trails -- Hiking and Cross Country Skiing. October, 1985 • REPORT ON RESULTS OF PARK INTEREST SURVEY This report is intended for distribution to the Council and the Parks and Recreation Committee, and for publication in the Town Crier. All the results are now in from our Parks Interest Survey, and the answers you gave have been compiled and are being used by the Parks and Recreation Committee for future planning. Some of your comments about maintenance will be implemented immediately. About 326 surveys were returned (15%), _which is a good return rate according to those who do surveys professionally. We'd like to have heard .from more,. of you. . .and if you have comments after reading the results of our survey, • we'd still like to hear from you. Overall, most of you who replied were pleased with your parks and with the care they receive. We were especially surprised and pleased with the positive response we received to the development being done in Crepeau Nature Preserve, and to trail development. You wanted more trails, better-maintained trails, and better-marked trails. The Parks maintenance crews, within the limitations of manpower and funds available, will be adding more identification to the trails and maintaining them more regularly. They will be upgraded as funds are available, but we'll probably give them a higher priority as a result of this survey. One thing we learned from the survey was that many of you aren't sure where all the parks are located, or where all of the trails are located. We're pre- paring a description of each park, and a map showing all of the parks and trails, for distribution to each resident. The most responses were received from the Hazelnut Park area, with Perry Park, . Floral Park, Crepeau and Cummings following closely. Valentine Park came next in numbers of respondents calling it their home park, Ingerson, Freeway and Arden Oaks following closely. The surveys indicated many of you interested in more pre-school equipment at your park, and adding that will become a high priority item in our 1986 planning. You seemed to greatly appreciate the tennis courts added in the last two years and asked for more. A few of you would like some of them lighted. The Parks Committee will consider these comments in its 1986 planning also. Dogs in the parks, and dog droppings in the parks, continue to be a problem which we'll try to police, but we need you help on this too. It is the owner's responsibility to remove any feces deposited by his dog, and dogs must be under the control of their owners at all times. We did have some negative comments. Some of you felt Perry Park too heavily used, with four league-sized ballfields. We think it's too heavily used too, and are continuously searching for additional locations for league-sized soft- ball fields. As soon as we can possibly do so, we'll find alternate locations for some of the teams using those fields. We received several comments suggesting we have a broader range of programs. The philosophical guidelines used in developing programs and activities have been: - Emphasis on personal development through relaxation and fun. - Emphasis on skill development for activities that can be enjoyed -3- GENERAL COMMENTS (for Council and Parks and Recreation Committee members) • Arden Hills is on track -- keep up the good work! "Enjoy the parks and open space when driving by. . .thanks for the parks and maintenance. It's worth it." "Excellent job of park planning and programming." "Tax money should not be used for baseball fields for people not paying taxes in Ard en Hills." "Charge non-resident fees." "Have lived in Arden Hills for six months; delighted with parks, people, and Village service." "I don't know location of parks so don't use them." PARK YOU CONSIDER YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD PARK: Sampson 8 Hazelnut 40 Perry Park 35 Valentine 24 Floral 38 Crepeau 34 Freeway 13 Ingerson Park 15 Arden Manor 1 Arden Oaks 13 Cummings 31 TRAILS 58 persons stated they used, and made comments, about the trails. • Cummings Shelter/Picnic/Benches (5) More playground equipment (5) Soccer net and goals (2) Lighted hockey rink (3) General We need a community sized park. More equipment for younger children. Buy Lindey's Triangle for softball. • • Maintenance Comments Please spray for mosquitoes (3) Better upkeep at Sampson Excellent at Cummings Better maintenance at Hazelnut, particularly of tennis courts. Repair broken equipment more rapidly. Better maintenance of tree plantings (regular watering, etc. ) Better field maintenance for Perry. Perry's too small for adult softball (2) Better maintenance of the ice at Freeway, Floral and Hazelnut. Cut grass more often (Floral) Keep dogs out of the parks! (3) Can we get rid of the poison ivy (Cummings, particularly) PRELIMINARY FEASIBILITY REPORT Study WEHRMAN b. keith wehrman Parkway , Minnesota CONSULTANTS roy a. anderson Arden Hills , November 20, 1984 ASSOCIATED iohn o. bergly INC. Investigation of the Ramsey County's plans and requirements for reconstruc- tion of candidate parkway routes revealed the following information: 1. No major improvement or reconstruction of County roads in Arden a,bt�Ct�w.t � Hills is included in the current 5-year Captial Improvement Program Y,,.yGw of Ramsey County. Future improvements will be considered when updating the CIP if the City makes a specific request. 2. Ramsey County has no specific cross-sectional standards for County roads. However, since all County roads in Arden Hills are financed with the County-State Aid funds, these roads must meet Minnesota Department of Transportation standards. If the projected traffic volumes on a route are less than 8,000 trips per day, the following standards apply: 1O 44 feet if parking is provided on both sides of street 36 feet if parking is provided on only one side of street 32 feet if no on-street parking is provided &e -or If projected volumes on a route exceed 8,000 trips per day, the standards increase to a range of 48 feet to 52 feet in width. (See Page 2 for right-of-way widths and traffic volumes on candidate • routes.) 3. If the preceeding standards are satisfied, some design flexibility may be permitted. However, if significant design modifications increase the cost of construction, the City would be responsible /UO,T&_ for additional costs. 4. The Ramsey County Department of Public Works definitely restricts o ff landscaping within the rights-of-way of County roads. Landscaping Np r6r (berms , trees, shrubs) which encroaches upon the rights-of-way must !i be reviewed and may be approved by the County. However, it is a general policy that no landscaping be provided within the right-of- ° way; it must be installed behind the right-of-way line. due+>< 5. No funding sources for financing landscaping along County-State Aid G✓ X �` Highways are available to either the County or the City. Land- scaping costs, except those associated with restoration after construction, a`re no in a as probe cos or ounty road construction: If additional landscaping is to be accomplished, it will be the City's responsibility. 6. The County will construct, when funding is available, - bike paths along designated routes. These paths may be contiguous to the driving lanes or separated if N�y� right-of-way width permits. If paths are separated '" from the roadway, however, they become the responsi- `° bility of the City. c. Ce 4/ -1- engineering — landscape architecture phone 612-546-4303 — 1415 north lilac drive, minneaoolis, mn 55422 planning — urban research o RIGHT-OF-WAY AND TRAFFIC VOLUME ANALYSIS Traffic(a) Route Row Width Volumes 1. Lake Johanna Blvd. 4,900 rcA,_ Co. Rd. D to east limit of Tony Schmidt Park 66' wr I TA r t c,��rD� East limit of Tony Schmidt Park to Snelling 80' r LtX V A ink b, .$, 2. Snelling Ave. 4,400 Hwy. 51 to Co. Rd. E 200' Co. Rd. E to 694 100' 3. Co. Rd. E-2 86' 5,400 4. Hamline Ave. 66' 7,000(b) 5. Co. Rd. D 66' 5,400 (a) Indicates(1982 ADT on the most travelled portion of the route. (b) Based upo -ansultation with the City Traffic Engineer, Hamline II Avenue is the only candidate route anticipated to exceed 8,000 ADT in the future. ALTERNATIVE PARKWAY CROSS-SECTIONS • The following sketches of roadway cross-sections graphically depict the CSAH standards identified on page 1, paragraph 2. These cross-sections are shown related to the varying right-of-way widths of candidate routes. All alternatives assume separated bike/pedestrian paths to reduce the width of paved roadway and to improve safety. -2- Z • O LU a0 to I cooO _ I 0r W i > a0 Q Z H Ne st� iz . Q ! .. T 3- CONCLUSIONS • 1. The development of a true parkway system, (that is scenic roadways with limited access and for non-commercial traffic only) is not feasible in Arden Hills because the system must follow existing routes which cannot be restricted in that manner. 2. If the City wishes to pursue the development of a parkway system, its efforts should concentrate on: Separation of bike/pedestrian paths from the roadway to reduce pavement widths, and �b. Beautification of roadways through more intense and/or uniform landscaping. 3. The County's present restrictions on landscaping within the rights- of-way of County roads present a major barrier to the development of streets with parkway character. If significant landscaping is to be accomplished, it will have to be located behind the right-of- way 1 i ne. ar al I-NI - r cry,,, A ��e.�C�a r�� /rvt�V^ a�° �o� Una<ss G)$ cM► �cj� .,, Y4 .1 /w f .,.lw WI/ . l 4 Development Zo parkway cross-section within segments of candidate parkway routth right-of-way widths of less than 80 feet is not considered f1e..r J�?p✓�it.dl J' �'+�I�. 5. Establishment of a parkway system in Arden Hills can only be accomplished through a long-term improvement plan. Implementation • of such a plan would require: a. Co-ordination with Ramsey County in the design of future County roa recons ruction projects in order to achieve separated bikeLuedestrian paths and reduce_rayPmPnt widths. b. Working with the County to achieve the relaxation of the �� present landscaping restrictions. `— C. Co-or ina io wi �n iapro erty owners to en- courage priva e p an ing, or permit pub is y financed ? planting on private property, to enhance the parkway U character.;,'" e- p- A r WA-We- XIA.,V , ' d. Co-ordinate with NSP for the burl of overhead power lines/when replacement of various segments is required. nod 7•-��c.nii�,.., lihn� 6. Based upon the right-of-way widths, traffic volume, availability of __— landscaping space, beyond right-of-way lines, and exposure to natural amenities, the following routes have the greatest potential for parkway development: a. Lake Johanna Boulevard from Stowe Avenue to Snelling b. Snelling Avenue from T.H. 51 to I-694 C. Co. Rd. E-2 from Snelling Avenue to I-35W -A� �-42 -4- MSEY 0 COUNTY LEAGUEL-i Li 183 University Avenue East OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS St. Pain, Minnesota -55101 CAPITOL COLNTI OF %11NNIS0TA RCLLG JANUARY MEETING Ardcn Hills Falcon Heights "THE PAST, PRESENT, AND FUTURE OF RAMSEY COUNTY'S PARK SYSTEM" Gern Lake Most counties in the metropolitan area seem to have a parks Lauderdale commission, but Ramsey County does not. Should it have one? What exactly is being done in other counties? And how does Little Canada the Metropolitan Council fit into the picture? Attend the MaPle,Aood. RCLLG general membership meeting on January 16 to find out. Mounds View This first meeting of the year will focus on the structure and Ne„ Brighton operations of Ramsey County's park system. Speakers for this meeting will be John McBride, Chair of Metropolitan Council's North oaks Parks and Open Space Commission, and Tony Crea, Executive • N. St. Paul Director of the Ramsey County Parks and Recreation Department. Ramsey County Parks and Recreation directors, as well as park board members Roseville from RCLLG member municipalities have been invited to this meeting in order to add different viewpoints to the discussion. St. Anthom St. Paul Summer is not the only time to think of parks; the future of Ramsey County parks is a topic of importance year *round-- so snorr,ity. mark your calendars now to attend this meeting. Vadnais Heights DATE: Wednesday, January 16, 1985 Whit,, Bear Lake �1 I;itc Bear Tcmnslim TIME: 7:30-9:00 p.m. PLACE: Vadnais Heights City Hall, 687 E. County Road E Directions: 1 . 35 East - North; take 96 exit, go west 1 block, turn left (south) on Centerville Road, right on County Road F. City Hall is at intersection of Clover and County Road F. 2. 694 - take Rice Street exit; go north 1 1/2 miles then turn right. on County Road F. For more information, call RCLLG Coordinator Jeanette Cizek at. Is 227-5600. TRA=L S • 1. Please sod or pave the trails. (4) 2. Need more biking trails, along thoroughfares and around the lake. (5) 3. Keep trails in good condition for winter skiing and summer hiking (3). 4. Continue upgrading of Chatham trails. (6) 5. Expand hiking trails (3) 6. In some areas, too remote -- not safe for-children (1) 7. Trails need better markings. 8. Connect bike path along Lexington to connect Josephine to Arden Plaza. i • PROGRAM SUGGESTIONS 1. Longer summer play programs. • 2. Gym and dance programs later in the day for working parents. 3. Have skating rinks open only every other night -- small numbers of skaters doesn't seem to warrent open every night. 4. Would like tennis lessons for all ages at Hazelnut and at Floral (5) 5. Summer basketball program. 6. Horseshoe courts. 7. Need a football field. 8. Nature walks in Fall and Spring. 9. Square dance. 10. Tour of parks for citizens. 11. Day time activities for people who work 12. CPR Instruction. 13. Saturday program for kids. 14. Preschool programs 15. Soccer in evening for working parents. 16. T-Ball for Kindergartners. 17. Expand programs to be more like Shoreview's. 18. Puppet show. 19. Better swimming lessons. 20. Walking group for adults. We need a map and a description of the parks. . . .(5) • NEGATIVES 1. Too noisy, and too late in the evening - Broomball for Bethel at Hazelnut (3) 2. Need better supervision of softball leagues. 3. Felt softball league excellent (school age), T-ball poor. 4. Reduce softball at Perry Park. 5. Resent paying non-resident fee to Shoreview for programs at Island Lake. (10) CONSTRUCTION COMMENTS Hazelnut Slide too dangerous for little kids. More pre-school play equipment needed for kids (5) More swings Better tennis net (John tok care of this) Less sports and more nature trails No more construction -- (2) Drinking fountain More tennis courts (3) Somewhat concerned about vandalism. Valentine No more development -- keep it as it is. Too wet! More landscaping and trees More climing and play equipment (2) Perry Park More preschool and play equipment, particularly swings (5) Tennis courts (2) Freeway Tennis courts Pre-school play equipment (3) Picnic tables Bigger warming house Crepeau Very happy with nature preserve and trail (5) Can we have some play equipment? (2) Don't remove sumac Delighted with bridge Ingerson Need another park access Tennis court Arden Oaks Preschool equipment swings (2) Tennis court Basketball hoop Softball field $ccer nets Better grass Sod on bank to prevent erosion Floral More swings and preschool equipment (5) wading pool More tennis courts (5) Light the tennis courts (2) More parking Soccer fields • More picnic tables and benches SURVEY RESULTS NO. OF SURVEY RETURNED: 321 Ages of Respondents: 153 under 20 32% 47 between 20 and 30 10% 197 30 to 50 42% 77 over 50 16% # of years living in Arden Hills: 43 -- Under 2 16% 59 -- 2 to 5 22% 98 -- 6 to 15 36% 72 -- Over 15 26% Do you use parks? 34 do not 13% 223 do use parks 87% Seasons used: 197 use parks in the summer 35% 144 Fall 25% 96 Winter 17% 128 Spring 23% Are you satisfied with the appearance of your park? 63 always 30% 21 some times 10% 122 most of the time 59% 1 Never 1% Are you satisfied with the level of development in your park? 156 yes 78% 44 No 22% Have you participated in any programs offered? 125 No 52% 114 Yes 48% How do you rate the program you participated in? Excellent - 44 32% Good 81 59% Fair 11 8% Poor 1 1% throughout an individual's entire life. - Providing more active athletics for women and girls • - Stressing the importance of skill development and individual participation rather than winning, and - Coordinating activities with the school district, neighboring parks and recreational departments, athletic associations and private agencies to keep the duplication of effort at a minimum. Many of you in the Cummings Park area were concerned about having to pay non-resident fees for programs at Island Lake School, your home school. Most of the programs offered at that school are sponsored by the Shoreview Recreation Department, and it is their policy to charge non-resident fees, School district boundaries were established before the village boundaries and unfortunately, your children are attending Shoreview schools. A complete tabulation of survey results is available in the Village Office. -30- October, 1985 sm The beach at Lake Johanna, and Tony Schmidt Park, are not a part of the Arden Hills' parks system. They are owned and maintained by Ramsey County. • Some of the comments we received about park maintenance in general concerned controlling poison ivy and pesky bugs. We will try to control the poison ivy in the major park areas, but we can't do too much about the mosquitoes you mentioned. We're part of the Metropolitan Mosquito Control Commission, and they take care of mosquito control. 32% of those of you replying to the survey were under 20, 10% between 20 and 30 years of age, 42% in the 30 to 50 year age group, and 16% over 50. 16% of you had lived in Arden Hills less than two years, 22% from 2 to 5 years, 36% from 6 to 15 years, and 26% over 15 years. 13% of those of you respond- ing said you didn't use the parks; 87% stated that they did. They seem to be used pretty equally in each season of the year, 35% in summer, 25% in the • fall, 17% in the winter, and 23% use them in the spring of the year. Most of _you (59%) were satisfied with the appearance of your park most of the time, 30% are satisfied with the appearance of your park all of the time, 10% are pleased only some of the time, and the inevitable 1% -- never. 78% of you are satisfied with the level of development of the park you use, 22% were not satisfied, some feeling it was over-developed, probably an equal number feeling it underdeveloped. Responses on questions as to program usage were more mixed, with 52% of you having used an Arden Hills' sponsored recreation program, and 48% of you not having participated. 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