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HomeMy WebLinkAbout07-12-1983 PTRC Agenda and June Minutes • • i on Committee meet I i-.q V i f P,r(1,3 ri T u c s,d y J 'j I y ! 2 6 00 p .m . ME FT A-F V 1 1.-LAGc W LlL FOR TOUR OF VILLAGE PARKS 1 . Tc!jr- Village Pair �s , Return to Village Hall ,j Rol I gal I I to rder P-i"-; 7rluios ' June 21 ,1 1983 $ - Park Development Plan BLISiTen i-i YeSeat S a", � 1 Minutes of Regular Parks and Recreation Committee Meeting Village of Arden Hills June 21 , 1983 Village Hall Call to Order The meeting was called to order at 7 : 35 p . m. by Chair Sand . Roll Call Present : D. Sand , A. Anderson, K. Boss , G. Dreylung , D. Klick, D. Kostishack, T. Tuggle Absent : M. Bergene, J . Gilbert, P. Lippert, J . Otto, T. Sather-, A. Montgomery, M. Wild Also Present : Mayor R. Woodburn Parks Director J . 1'. Buckley Ap2rorsaI of Minutes Motion was made by T. Tuggle, seconded by K. Boss, that the minutes of May 10 be approved as mailed. Motion carried unani - mously. Tour of Village Parks Tour of the Village parks by Committee members scheduled origi - nally for June 13, and then June 20, had to be cancelled both times because of inclement weather. The tour will now be held at the regular July meeting, July 12 , at 6 : 00 p .m. After the tour, meeting will be held to work on p y wo u d ro used 1934 budget d Ten Year Park 1m rovement Plan. uc e like to € nvite any mem ers who cannot make the July meeting to call him and arrangs alternate time for tour of Village parks with him. mmittee Membership JX/R_ckley reported that Al Montgomery will be returning to school for two years at Cowa City , will not be able to continue to serve on Committee. He Is very interested in service on the Committee when he returns to Arden Hills. Chair Sand noted that vacancy will exist on the Committee , would like any suggestions for another member from that area of the Village given to T. Mulcahy. Cummin s Park, Plans Planner Miller expects to present drawings and grading specifica- tions for Cummings Park to Council on June 27 for approval . if approved , he will be advertising for bids the next three weeks . Bid award recommendations will be given to the Council on July 25, and hopefully grading and seeding done In late August or early September. Miller has expressed some concern about severity of grade of trail leading from Lexington Ave. to park, appears to be a 3 to U slope. A. Anderson queried cost of foot bridge across gully , Dreyling suggested plank steps. Foot bridge would be very expensive, steps would still not make path usable by handicappel or mothers with strollers . Ten Year Park Development fi t • Committee concurred thaiiey would like to delay final approval 1 r Minutes of Parks and Recreation Committee Meeting Page 2 June 21 , 1983 • ofpro�o�d Ten Year Park Development Plan until after July tour � of Vi I lage parks. s,,� i-.- Perry P� ark Buckley stated that Council had received two petitions from resi - dents In the Perry Park area stating that : 1 . They feel park is over-utilized for softball ; there are not not enough facilities for neighborhood persons; suggested tennis courts. 2. Feel parking is inadequate for number of softball games. 3. Screening of the park from residents is inadequate; fence has -fallen down and bushes have not grown . 4. Bail players are drinking in the park, speeding on New Brighton Road when leaving park, would like park posted , and more patrolling in the park. 5. Residents would like the City of Arden Hills and the Ramsey County Sheriff ' s Department to post the vicinity of Perry Park as a "Slow - Children - Reduce Speed" zone. 6. Would like speed limit on New Brighton Road from County Road E to County Road E-2 reduced to 30 miles per hour. There were no residents from the Perry Park area present to ds- cuss these concerns with the Committee. Mayor Woodburn stated that Ramsey County Sheriff ' s Department has been asked to patrol the area more frequently. Buckley stated he had posted "No Drinking" signs , at Perry Park. They are removed as fast as "hey are posted. More signs are ordered and will be put up again . Buckley also stated It Is his intention to reduce scheduling of field #4 as soon as Cummings Park field is completed , and eventually convert this field to neighborhood type activities. All teams using the fields are urged to car pool to alleviate the parking problem. He also stated that when residents had re- quested screening previously , they specifically asked for plantings Instead of permanent fencing , and plants have not grown as rapidly as hoped , but should become an effective barrier. Snow fence has been repaired . Leaf Disposal Site Woodburn reported that plans are proceeding for a leaf disposal site on Hudson Road , ,just off New Brighton Road , should be open this fall . This site will be utilizad by Arden Hills, New Brighton , and Ramsey County. Ot appears only cost to Arden H ' Ils will be some work on road into site. Johansen will be projec , coordinator for Arden Hills, with Buckley as assistant. • Minutes of Park and Recreation Committee Meeting Page 3 June 21 , 1983 Misc3llaneous Business - Chair Sand quoted excerpts from May and June Town Crier, in- dicating public support for handicapped recreational program ( recommended by Parks Committee, not approved by Council ) . - Letter from Vento, dated May 24, indicates his office is continuing to pursue release of Arsenal land , is still awalting release by the Department of Defense. Adjournment The meeting was adjourned at 8 : 45 p .m. Submitted by Shirley Marshall . THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE WILL BE HELD JULY 12, 1983, 6 :00 P.M. PARKS TOUR, 8 : 00 P.M. REGULAR MEETING ( 1984 BUDGET PLANNING, TEN YEAR PARK DEVELOPMENT PLAN ) . • • 7" 1 Z r z L V f V c a 0 C !I n vj,a s c L,� [!,o�l orler at 7: 36 p .m. by Chairman Sand . rh_9 Present : D . Sand, A - e s,,.)n , M . B c e r i a, B o s F,, d . G i U b e r t, li D. K [ ilck, 0. of-�ro, T . Sather, T. Tugglie Absent : DrgV I �,,4�on tgor-e ry W t O d A I so F re z a fn I" C 0 1�; T Mu t c a h y pa o7 J . T . SuckJ ey LOREOV'a tl of M I rl u i-C' motion h .n s m cfo by T . 7 ;q,p c , s�con d c d b,,,- T. S a th o r, o hat the .rsinutes ai Aprl 1,2 be 9 rcved as me i I oil Mofloi,. carried unan : Tecusiy . � o John McCtu, 0, PYO )ag-jcw DOVIOpm IO n M y 3 plians to devoliop, c C fl. u n g a d v I s o d t C o 61 J� h il s proper-i'ry south of ti-s'z, V'i, l I a(-le I f Rloya P, Oaks p D z;ns for do- ve B opment (of ilic,I r propijTi-v �b utt pq h, i S are made .;. �,ou 1! d 11. 11 ke to ccordinF,it,3 2rading scAS44, le,;_ for the tVIO PErCells , havel grading done ins A u E,�z s T. 'r!,� is ;,.-,a i t I c 31 g f 2 ( o t s . q, 15 r,3ascn for coming '�o Parks lvoiptr ttoq wes to pork dedlicafl0n ; t�jeve is a waMing p aillc3pg , IF s t . ot.jt�j roporty tilne, which trail � curr,�lnjiur �y fir, fix" St,_ adjolrs tha t-4orth ltl ) ns, 'l 61-Cla:r'%notill hOdIflon . commlltttz ln.v' prov" ounty A to coqlt-roue t' liti [,.,a-'h north I the V1 HL, 0 1 . Ha it 0' to know iu e ("Omn i Fj I t 0-,G w a S S t 6 11 I n t e r e s I-o d, a s;d ho,ti m u C"4 tAq,�, t h c,y t i c>u 11 d 3-4 oa e y p a Th I r, 501 wide along Brlar!,.noi AddIflnli He stated 'Ohal t n ord-sr l u p 1! al- 112 Pc s I ch f as I I Y ComP 0 Y w I til V j 0 t a g e turd I n a n c a r o an i-,r j d !.ioOd be onty 201 avi- Ifabllu for s p d ale is proposing val, ij, -�b 1!o 9 s ow�h a ro a 20 1 ded tz:z' Ion �' soh 11,1d f tvO I!off' An do rsor q,lL I Od i I-rn 1 a -1 nd 'A c sv VO 91 fs jlc.,'f,� ujjg stated tral s 'I C)t ir 0 CP p Z" K.,)s t a n ot a _ - t G1 ilh'-.t Com"11tt9 a had ercoum,6 -PGd pr,-') h p �nt V 1 hll3 ' aO hEva not h, I e S n I,. r,�0 V�_Pg S d t ha 1 �l .6- S a;I n c .! 'n,� tl b a C C queried If troducling wrd."-'�j h:_Ang lu-o Close p j , at d rj p,r cl) 1� r i �n to back y 0,rt,"'�, tea -C i u, n q o., zt d -,i'-h L �t't, tip p; 4 i Ln t Z t r)r r ot i s t r a 1 11 w b n [I�'t Vv� 9zn r_" �i S��.; f" 0;"j I, � s a v I a T Q jr-. C 3 f m p r �3 p h' v,tl' hey 501 �' s • r. m a ji r -end Ln 5 2 d o r r,u,p tl1 n utos of Ra ,U l ar Parks pia, . maf: t i ng Page 2 May 10 , 1983 • F,f thGy are zdequal-!• ; i f t Oa-Du frrOPI COI! tGan , canoe from FBoral Park . Sho eked Q f MCC, L :Mg �-ck; i d cons 1 de,) al acrass between two I.ots �i n tho cu 8 :fie sac on 'R;Fspberry Lane; he rep P Bach he wou 1 d be gllad * o do so. 6,u 1ey r:)d vIv-bit j�, f tra > 0-3 do qot have ade- quate, v 1 s 1 b P e acc,33,s a y a-re not used . Sand asked � f tI.cC 1 own c e-o be ask 9 ng for a varr I ance 6 n tralB wldi-h when plo:-Wng soc°ond addl `''Hora cf hl!; property ; McC G ung stated not�. the r��;� r t t ^,,rdu 1 d t1 ays to bca c; .�:r� more than 50 t w Fi do to get by i h o 13? on the edge . MCC B uaag si-ated he >.<a 16 m < , gc.-j ng 'i-o hc; P Cann b rig Comfit ss 11 on W t th h� s p '1 ans J une B , and the p l at to be corn .I dor ed by the Counc11 1r» M71 €1-ial: Motion was made by Anider5,+on , seconded' by Ctt:';�A ttat Comrarlttee irecorn- mend to Council 1 that i h 20 ^ wt 6 s th, where p G attad as necessary on sketch presen'l-ed - O t;-- bo c;ccap l oa'. r, w 1 d•y h :ilf of trait be nogot 1 a-?®r later, and t h,t a; 51 a a ,ae.anf be as access from Raspbor°rry Lane cull do sz(, . After- ddsc;usslon ,, matto-,-p ai,,.i njdecl d'aaa south por°•ylon of teal 8 beg t n a-Y ml�:h � , i a;� J to ,`00 rlvr•I''9 to 'he goad �Y ft"I! rinq development . . Motlon carHed Councl 1 _RE`-ort Co ncl 14na u) mutcaKy repo ad {-ha- a CoubacJ 1pprov-*;6 Cavatrao a' s 'arre s i p II an, 3s z.+rG r�°ad spec8 f 1ca- t6ons fvr- gradIrg. Approved Droposvd (r'r<�ogb-arn aavd Spr6ng lrastrActorrs . Con plot€ad pare 6o-Ocai ,On W . "V . Gr•alnnoar at 90% $23,800 < Had darn l d PororI,!na I On 0,;r l 1 !' to .;<a pn,..� B .1 at Va lentR n® Court era Coun�°� 1.cad •a-r> ding . [lad ravt; ewad pions fog dWt,-0l0 PM,G of c)ffBca b^r1 { ,' �1rg on Band ctjrron-° O; Go 1 ; Bern 1&�' 6ov-3 1 opar's request for 1:ss8uanca O'tr" ? `. I'' P& zP' nr.A< BJ�.� . l( Set-,r e ary 9 r note park de6'!-,-itIor) €�tonlsrs l � � ya a�s pr vlc3us Cy b�� : r�-+cal ve,d for Ton Year P !I h:� F,7, 1 ��r;ed d by "F .;u��- Comm1 t t a a . Proposed (foul®pq6(ttvnt W:�� b`; 4 iC����� 1 �'ar�� ��dr�>�� < < i r� �b � t�sa � 1gh prloHty , (, 1.., y�{ t irs� � 7�; 3 ���5 ? 1 �; ����r� j 1��^ , ..vs R �dGO yea rs) , 4" Q X` sstatedprF�,:1 -asa1 , a 1-0 � Qan fin 19G;.5 • for the i-,an 3L);r- 3 M; r�Ut a S C',f t vr$ r C _, r ,i '?:i a 00i, i n g Page 3 t4ay [0, 1.9t;3 comlflttee - Anderson -- do ax )undo ` ures rs ( ai-G o anflctpated lncome . Eucklio%i ri-,o"orr-'c! i-o Pe4rks Review, 3- 65-83, cc, paHscn of 1ncomq to �,) tcjo. - Tuggte askod wihy fundo c-r, ph ,qnned for roae, 11 Park; Buck lsy Gtated Is road to tip a bai,A fleld . - Tuggle quoried 1 ,.1 f lgh-'*.'-eng at Arsoral! f &alf_s minM- be deslrablile; ,,iould no' U 5 Y s Duck [,oy feqt if these fielc�s e, an-v rc?:2, 5J­oii t are acquIred, th4,.,ro wculd iiot bo a need for 111ght1ng, unless , at some future poInll- lin dorpavid for fle [Ics becomes heavy arwough so ilhey go any other way . In current dollars, h. 1 one ftaId at $45 ,,-.100 to $60,000 . Anderson notad prlorlty", $6,000 for hard surface area at '?,t rry Pa,rk - qui 'f)s1-tsr Else cf iros,, Ias might be to ma"ke It 11' 6,000 jjjclludkd �snc,,i for trynOs cu,,urt . Sorgene asked If -;1iis g f, considered add i -Hional ra!ntenance costs with addad Buc%,Uay is currently gather- Ing figuros on ?Eirk costs ; VIPI [, aga of Mounds Viev; qstjp,jat,oq�� $65 );I�,_ p@Cro on ad l a r of park, a s 11 y� mO n t;-t S p r t,c a tjou1 .j bey af�ouir sl -,. acres at Cunir.Angs "ark G,i p h c,,i- d Ha Is coi, ile:cflnz; iln�ormatlon from othep YI h jages aaC w 1 1; i: on s i mats Auden H 11 fl f: s I cns,,t- per acre for park cjr_,)t aatuclpata addIiAcn of any ftHtl t1me amploysov, fl;,,r ryas�'Jsnitnce,; -wou d raqulro a!'.`11ditionall aaasanO parks a devellop now areas . - Ande6,son czre4�v0by at 5,UpgeStlons for rsp0acomA-s't of to sure; 1-;111L 'ils absollutelly necassar�­? . - Anderson t__1ur_4rrio! r1*ce.!­.7,1t1;, fcr dolilars plaunad for Old life S 3 re a aree 1p that - ley It n d b�oo n 1 o 4F t t,,u, -1c cj-a w5 -"-h ps,rh E p 5� s or' �,,l ev. I n a r-, t e c, r r e J11 J n,a, s,r% F, o"I u in n D o'V 6 l 0 P m 0 n t fj , C S p r n S C I ea n gyp r a 2 1 0 0 0 to 12 :00 P 3. rrl� Pub �, I Ci ty . zl!.M 3uck �:,I-y kill;11 The f C!11 !)ow "I I 1�d 'i'l 5 r D n,, or c 0 0 r d I n C:I I!6 • M, n ut s o u I z tr P ot i ii- I-iu, V,,30 in g P a 9's My 10, 11933 D. Sand- .._Ha ae r nut D. 1,1 o s t I shark--------- Park D. Park K. Boss Pa�,k G. Dray ting-------------- -Ffora ,,- Park T . Tugglo Buck loy wi I I arrangz, for rte,, sov.; to coordinate clean up in other parks . M sce8 ,Ianecus Bus inass - School D�Z, __Fr rM�cT_has &a,d to so fi Johanna MI c1d, i.3 School Buck Ney Is !:;tM uslnr_; sor� oi; the area for programs on a week- to-wook basis as ava& 1 =-Ob [,-- , - Sand noted art clk.- ln �Aow, 30r0ghton News concer0ing Mounds View and Naw Brighton 3ward-', a- "TrAo Clitles",• asiked Arden Hi s ' p rog rain, si�atod -�-hat V1 u bage does have a "Tres Board". 3((Parks Coinm�Itts,61,' , a 'Eoui­,.,vard Tree Ordiinance, anJ a Community • Forastrj,, Progrvri-.. Sanlid sq--pgasted copies of articlie be attached to those) Wnutes , and Hi, lufs -'iree program be a subject for dlscuss [an at a maotlng_ June Meati%-ijg. June msnt6ng wM consi ,_-v ol- a -?our (;-f V111sago park:,; . Committee members are asked to inesl- a-'Z- thtz) Yfttfage Ha r at 6 :00 p .m. A short bias lnose w ,! 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