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Home My WebLink AboutCC 03-11-2002 . . . ~ ~~ILLS MEETING MINUTES CITY OF ARDE='I HILLS, MTN,,"ESOT A REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING MO,,"DA Y, MARCH 11,2002,7:00 P.M. CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 1245 WEST HIGHWAY 96 CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL Pursuant to duc call and notice thereof, Mayor Dcnnis Probst caHed to order the regular City Council meeting at 7:23 p.m. Present: Mayor Dennis Probst, Councilmembers Bevcrly Aplikowski, David Grant, and Gregg Larson Abscnt: CounciJmember Lois Rem. Also present were City Administrator, Joe Ly~lCh; City Accountant, Tenancc Post; City Planner, Aaron PmTish; Interim Public Works Director and Parks & Recreation Dircctor, Thomas Moore; and Recording Secretary, Kathleen Altman. ADOPT AGENDA MOTION: Councilmember Grant movcd and Councilmember Aplikowski seconded a motion to adopt the agenda for the March 11, 2002, regular City Council meeting as prcscnted. The motion carried unanimously (4-0). APPROVAL OF MINUTES A. Fcbruary 19,2002 Worksession Meeting MOTION: Councilmcmbcr Aplikowski moved and Councilmember Grant seconded a motion to approve the Fcbruary 19,2002 Worksession Meeting as prescntcd. The motion canied unanimOLlsly (4-0). CONSE='IT CALENDAR A. Claims and Payo'oll. B. Regular Full Time Employcc Status Operations and Maintenance Superintendent Jim Penon .'vlOTION: Councilmember Larson moved and Councilmember Aplikowski secondcd a motion to approve the Consent Calendar and authorize exccution of aHnecessary documents contained therein. The motion carried unanimously (4-0). ARDE)l HILLS CITY COUNCIL MEETING MJJ\lJTES MARCH 1 J, 2002 2 . PUBLIC COMMENTS Mayor Probst invited those present to come forward and address the Council on any items not alread y on the agenda. :\fo public comments were made. UNFINISHED AND NEW BUSINESS A. PMP Discussion Mr. Lynch updated Council on thc PMP Discussion. He indicatcd they did not at this time have a Plan B project. He asked if Council wantcd staff to look at a Plan B project now. Mayor Probst indicated he was comfortable with thc path they were Collowing. Councilmember Larson requcstcd staff infonn them oCthc assessment level on the last project the City embarked on. Mr. Post statcd thc project was in 1998, and he believed thc reconstruction rate for Fairvicw Avenue and Edgewater was 541.00 per foot. He indicated he had lookcd at thc cost increase and the costs appeared to be escalating at approx. 4% per year. He statcd thc cstimatc they had was within a 51.00 per foot of that rate. . Mr. Lynch stated there werc no common areas in this project; they were alJ single-family homes. Councilmember Larson asked if there was any other work the cngineers were proposing other than street reconstruction. Mr. Post replied one oCthe concems was the uncertainty oCthc base of the roads needed to get to the cuI-de-sacs. He indicated one of the fears was the destruction of the roads leading to the cul-de-sacs. He statcd this was a deviation from what was originally proposed. Mr. Lynch stated he did not think there were any additional costs involvcd in this and iCthat did occur, they would nccd to come back to Council. Councilmember Larson asked iCthey were proposing to pull up the existing street and leave the existing curb and gutter. Mr. Post rcplied the engineer had not done any soil borings yet, but if the cngincer found it was necessary to replacc the curb and gutter, it would need to be done. Councilmember Larson statcd if they were not going to tear up the curb and gutter, he believed this was a substantial increase in costs. Mayor Probst stated he hoped the estimate included thc curb a.tld gutter and that the enginccr would not replace the curb and gutter if it was not absolutely necessary. . Councilmember Larson requested ifthc engineer's estimatc did have a replacement for curb and gutter, and curb and gutter replacement was not nccessary, the engineer's estimate would be brought down. . . . ARDE:\f HILLS CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES MARCH 11, 2002 3 Councilmember Aplikowski stated she did not believe it was necessary for a Plan B and to proceed with this proj cet. Councilmember Grant requcstcd statT prepare a five-year plan for road maintenance. Mayor Probst replied this had been previOllsly request cd of staff. B. Exccl Utility Line 'vir. LY11ch updated Council on a letter he sent to Xcel Energy regarding construction of overhead electrical lines in thc future. Mayor Probst asked if Council wished to express their view in any stronger temlS other than 'vir. Lynch's March 4, 2002 letter scnt to Xcel. He asked Council how they w'ished to proceed. Counci [member Grant indicated he was not sure of the chain of command of Xcel Energy, hut believed the lctter was sufficient. Mayor Probst indicated he was frustrated with thc unwillingness oCXccl Energy to give the City a contact person at the company. Councilmcmbcr Aplikowski stated she agreed with the prcmise, but she believed this was a sign of the times. She believcd by having surrounding communities pay for what they wanted, Xcel now took the position iCthe Citics want something, they would have to pay for it. She agreed with the letter and the Mayor's opinion, but believed this would probably occur again in the future. Councilmember Larson stated the letter was fine, but he did not believe the letter would be of any benefit or get Xcel Energy's attention. Hc stated he was not surc what leverage the City had to get Xce!'s attention. He indicated he did not havc a great deal of confidence this letter would rcsult in any Cha.tlgCS. Mayor Probst indicatcd at this time they would wait to see if they received a rcsponse from Xcel Energy. ADlVIlNISTRATOR COMMENTS Mr. L)~lCh updated Council on a Legislative proposal limiting the City's ahility to have input on the highway system. He suggcstcd each Councilmember writc a letter or, in the alternative, the Mayor write a letter. Councilmember Larson stated Council needed to be clear enough to staff so staff had good direction in preparing such a lettcr. He indicated he wOldd prefcr not having to writc a letter. Councilmember Aplikowski stated if the Mayor was going to sign the letter, the Mayor should be the one to edit thc letter. She requested tbe next timc a letter goes out from the whole Council, it have the signature of aJl Councilmcmbers. . . . ARDE:\f HILLS CITY COlJNCTL MEETING MTl\UTES MARCH 1 L 2002 4 Councilmember Larson stated he believed that something should be sent to retain some abi [ity to influcncc the decisions ofthc pcople who were building highways through their community. Councilmember Grant asked ifthe Leaguc of Minnesota Cities were active on this front and asked if they were they opposing this Legislation. Hc stated if Council sent a lettcr, he wanted a copy sent to the League as well. Mayor Probst directed staff to draft a Jetter Cor his signature with a copy sent to the League of Minnesota Cities. Mr. Lynch stated he handed out the conclusion of the parks/trails study. He indicated this study would be reviewed by the PTRC this month and would be discussed at the March 18 worksession. Councilmember Larson requested thc PTRC prepare a five-year projcction. Councilmember Gra.tlt strongly encouraged the PTRC to prioritize items Cor thc next five years. lIe indicated an annual study did not make sense. Mayor Probst agreed with the request of Councilmembers Larson and Grant. COCl'ICIL COMMENTS Councilmember Grant stated there was a Joint Maintenancc Facility meeting on March 15,2002. Mayor Probst and Mr. Lynch updated Council on the developments regarding the maintenancc facility. Councilmember Larson requested the School District be informed of the same information that they had provided to the County. Councilmember Aplikowski requestcd thc City not get so restrictivc on their own space that a few years down the road, they are looking for morc space. She requestcd they stay open mindcd on that and not be so conccrned about what everything was costing. Councilmember Grant asked if Council wanted to give any direction or thoughts to the Task Force. Mayor Probst requested the Task Force takes a hard look at how the City does busincss. Councilmember Aplikowski indicated the City Hall dedication was going to be April 20, 2002. She stated they were planning on having a busincss luncheon the day before. She indicated the purpose of the busincss luncheon would be to thank the corporate sponsors, and she would have more inC0ll11ation regarding this at the next meeting. Councihnember Aplikowski stat cd thc Day the Park was shaping up. She indicated there was now a co-chair for the event. Shc statcd they did, however, nced more money to make this event . . . ARDEN HILLS CITY COUNCIL MEETING MI:\fUTES MARCH 11,2002 5 happen. She indicated they \vere not going to get as much money from the community as they had last year and she would come back with an update rcgarding the budget for this evcnt at a future Councilmccting. Councilmember Larson had no comments. Mayor Probst updated Council on thc at'senal prope11y. Mayor Probst asked if Council wanted to prioritizc the worksession meeting schcduled for next week and asked Council to give staff direction. Mayor Probst indicatcd hc offered the following three discussions scheduled for worksession be postponed: Business Subsidy Critcria discussion; 2001 Operative Surplus; and Cable TV Production discussion. Mayor Probst stated thc applications for the Planning Commission were now closed and ncxt Monday night they would intervicw othcr applicants atld identi fy the appointees. ADJOURN Mayor Probg adjou "cd thc meeting at 8:25 p.m. / ,I /7 i '.)l/a i~ .Dellni;,ft>'rob t ' i"/ "'vlayor .. ,)/ -' ";'1 t'" ,I ,', /J,' ,,,, / ,I ',;r' //?'< ~'1t-",{ ,; LZ"I!i---- . oc ynch / Ci . Administrator C/ NOTICE OF MEETINGS The next Council Meeting will be held Monday, March 25, 2002 at 7:00 p.m. at the ArdenlIills Council chambers. EXECUTIVE SESSION City Council went into Executive Session at 8:25 p.m. Council came out of Executive Scssion at 9: 11 p.m. There was no action taken or direction given by the City Council as a rcsult ofthc Exccutive Session. ADJOURN Mayor Probst adjourned thc Exccutivc Session at 9:13 p.m. . . . .~ /]'\~J-IILLS MEETING MII\UTES CITY OF ARDEN HILLS, lVIINNESOT A SPECIAL CITY COlTNCIL MEETING MO;\lDAY, MARCH 11, 2002, 4:45 P.M. CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 1245 WEST HIGHWAY 96 CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL Pursuant to due can and notice thereof, Mayor Dennis Probst cancd to order the rcgular City Council meeting at 4:57 p.m. Present: Mayor Dennis Probst, Councilmembers Beverly Aplikowski, David Grant, and Gregg Larson. Absent: Councihnember Lois Rem. Also present were City Administrator, .Toe LY11ch; City Accountant, Tenanec Post; City Planner, Aaron Parrish; and Intcrim Public Works Director atld Parks & Recreation Director, Thomas Moore. ROTTLUI\D HOMES TCAPP PRESENTATIOI\ Mayor Probst noted the reason for the meeting and wc1comed those prescnt to hear the presentation by Rottlund Homes for TCAA P devclopment. Michael :\foonan of David Bcrnard 110mes introduced himself and expressed appreciation for the opportunity to give the presentation. Todd Stutz of David Bernard Propel1ies prcscnted the background of David Bernard Propcrties which is a division ofRolllund Homes. Brian Fritz is thc Dcvelopment Manager lor .TPl, a multiple family unit developcr. They are rental housing developers only. Mr. Friv cited a specific example of their ability to be involved in multiple family development from Jefferson Estates at the conversion ofthe Lowry Air Force Base. John Mehrkens is with Presbyterian Homes Senior Housing Partners. They would be intcrested in thc scnior housing component ofthe proposed developmcnt. Murray Kombcrg is with CSY! Corporation, a St. Paul based dcvclopment company for commercial propel1y. Their primary product is single story commercial devclopment as well as hospitality development (i.e., hotels and motels). Mr. Kornberg indicatcd that an example of the type of development would be the Fair Isaac facility in Arden Hins. . . . ARDEN HILLS SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINJ;TES MARCH 11,2002 2 Kelly Doran with Robel1 Muir and Company, a Florida based commercial devclopment company, noted that the Northtown Mall in Blaine was a Robert Muir development. \1r. Doran indicated that they havc redevelopment experience. They worked with the City ofBJaine and their Economic Development Authority on thc Lexington 35W Villages ofBlainc development. Tom McGough, Jr., representcd McGough Construction. Mr. McGough showed a presentation on projects they havc done which included Gencral Mills, HB Fullcr, and Carlson Company buildings. Frat1k Ricks is with thc Planning and Architectural Finn of Looncy, Ricks, and Kiss in the southem United States. :VIr. Ricks indicatcd that his fi1l11 was the town designcr for Celebration Florida, which is the planned community built by the Disney Corporation. AJicr thc prcsentation the Council asked questions. Mayor Probst wondered if anyone has considered how to gain cOlmmmity involvement and acceptance of any proposed type of development. Mr. Ricks ofLRK responded that therc are several options to gain community involvcmcnt and acceptance including open fomms, charetles, and neighborhood locus groups. Mayor Probst also askcd about any experience the group may have had with being able to obtain thc necessary proper1y transfer from the Cedcral govemment. The group indicated they have some experience working with developers aJ1er the local unit of govemment has obtained control of the property. They have workcd with redevelopment authorities as property becatne availablc after clean up was completed. Mayor Probst indicated the community is concemed about aJlordable housing. He asked how the group would meet affordablc housing criteria that has been established. This is something that thc City of Arden Hills wants to accomplish in the proposed TCAAP development. Mr. Stutz responded that they are prepared to deal with the alTordability through Rottlund Homes or David Bemard Homcs, -'PI for multiple family housing and Presbyterian Homes for senior housing. The Mayor asked what kind of dcdication the group had for providing financial resources and time commitment. Mr. :\foonan indicated that the companies involved arc prepared to make the necessary linancial resources available. Mr. Noonan indicated the groups understand that this change cannot happen in a short time Jrame. Councilmember Larson inquired if the group had any concept about minimums or maximums for uses in order to make the project economically feasible. Mr. l\oonan indicated there was no minimum or maximum in tenns of amount orland uses to proceed with the project. Hc stated he did not believe that it was necessary to have a regional rctail development on the property in order to make it economically feasible. He believed a town center concept or villages would be more appropriatcly sized. . . . ARDEN HILLS SPECIAL CITY C01J?'.lCIL MEETING MJ:NI;TES MARCH 11,2002 3 Councilmember Grant asked about whether the group had dctermined whethcr there had to be a financial engine to drive thc rcst of the development of the property. Thc group indicated that it is not an exclusive rcsidcntial use development and that anyone ofthc initial nses cOlLld start the project. The group indicated there wOllld nced to be a commercial retail component of the proj ect in order to assist with the financial costs involved. Councilmembcr Grant asked about the resources for the environmental clean up. Mr. Noonan indicated that the group has not retained a firm but would hire a group if they wcre selected as the developer. The group has rclationships with several environmental firms. Councilmember Larson asked about the ability to assist the City in seeking release of the land from the federal govemmenl Mr. Ricks indicated that thcy are very familiar with the process of dealing with the legislativc issues identified. He citcd an example oI"Saldwin Park Development. PLANNING COMMISSIO:\f CANDIDATE INTERVIEWS Mayor Probst recessed the special City Council meeting at 6:11 p.m. and the Council adjourned to interview four Planning Commission candidates. 1. Jim Sommerfeld 2. Jim Borg 3. Megan Ricke 4. Cathy Smithknccht ADJOUR.'< City Council,.adjoum<.;((from the Platllling Commission interviews at 7:20 p.m. "j /' ...., i , ,II l,-:"'////.'.r...'.' :..::< .:. /', ':"'.,,>,' ~_. -,'-', f' ;' /~;".i",~";:': D- , l / ,I,:)" / ~_ ,;'J~'"". 1; Joe Ltnch Ci t )'.A.dministrator DerinisProbst Mayor