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MEETING MINUTES
APPROVED
CITY OF ARDEN HILLS, MTNNESOT A
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 15, 2002, 7:00 P.M.
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CITY HALL COt:NCIL CHAMBERS, 1245 WEST HIGHWAY 96
CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
Pursuant to due call and noticc thcrcof, Mayor Dennis Probst called to order
the regular City Council meeting at 7:02 P.rn.
Present:
Mayor Dennis Probst, Council Members Beverly Aplikowski,
David Grant, Gregg Larson, and Council Member Rem
Absent:
None.
Also present were City Administrator, Joe Lynch; Director of Community
Services, Aaron Parrish; City Planner, Peter Hellegers; Director of
Operations and Maintenance, Thomas Moore; City Engineer, Greg Brown;
and Recording Secretary, Kathleen Altman.
1. APPROV AL OF MEETING AGENDA
MOTION: Council Member Aplikowski moved and Council Member Rem
seconded a motion to adopt the agenda for the October 15,
2002, Regular City Council meeting. The motion carried
unanimously (5-0).
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. September 30, 2002 Council Meeting
Council Mcmber Grant requested thc following changes: Page 8, second
paragraph from the bottom, second sentence should read: Council Member Grant
replicd he was concerned about smart growtb and walk able neighborhoods..."
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Council Member Larson requested thc following changes: Page 2, third paragraph,
second sentence should read: "Mayor Probst said he saw the previous discussion
itcms..." Page 8, last paragraph, second to the last sentence, change mitigating to
mitigation. Page 4, first paragraph, third sentence from the bottom should read:
"He stated this new building proposal was actually a foot lower than the previous
building that was approved". Page 5, last paragraph, first sentence should read:
". . . expressed concern about his privacy, trat1ic increase, and the location of the
ramp to the basement..." Page 7, first paragraph should read: "... stated her main
concern..." Page 8, second to last paragraph, last sentence should read: "...what
was actually built did not necessarily work and hc did not..."
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Council Member Aplikowski requested the following changes: None.
Council Member Rem requested the following changes: Page 9, first paragraph,
first sentence should read: Council Member Rem stated she did not realize when
they heard the presentation at Work Session described as for infonnational
purposes that they would be moving toward endorsing this."
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Mayor Probst requestcd the following changes: None.
MOTIOX: Council Member Grant moved and Council Member
Aplikowski seconded a motion to approve the September 30,
2002 Council Meeting Minutes as amended. The motion
carried unanimously (5-0).
CONSENT CALE~DAR
Claims and Payroll
2002 I st Payment: 2002 PMP Hunters Court/Waldon Place: T.S. Schifsky
2002 1 st Payment: Sewer and Watermain Rehabilitation Project: Visu-Sewer
Clcan & Seal.
2002 1 st Payment: Storm Drainage Improvements: Dryden Excavating
Resolution No. 02-52: Authorizing Application for Recycling SCORE
Grant funds for 2003
Resolution No. 02-53: Establishing Service Fee Charge for 2003 Residential
Curbside Recycling Program
Resolution No. 02-54: A Resolution Approving an Application for
Authorization for an Exempt Gambling Permit to Trinity Lutheran Church
MOTION: Council Member Larson moved and Council Membcr Grant
seconded a motion to approve the Consent Calendar and
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authorize execution of all necessary documents contained
therein. The motion carried unanimously (5-0).
4. PUBLIC INQUIRIES/INFORMATIONAL
None.
5. PUBLIC HEARINGS
Carol Jacobsen, 1295 Wvncrest Court, stated she had lived in her home for 18
years and indicated she found moisture in her lower level as well as a sewer smell
in her basement last week. She stated she had spoken with Tom Moore, who
investigated this, but could not locate the source o[ her problem. She noted since
the City had started pumping Karth Lake, she has had moisture in her home. She
stated this had not happened because of the rain and the wet summer. She stated it
was not a coincidence, that once they started pumping Karth Lake that she has had
moisture problems.
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Mayor Probst asked if Ms. Jacobsen had any connection to the storm sewer and
asked if the City could dye test the sewer system. Mr. Moore replied they had done
a dye test today, but did not see any problems. He noted the sanitary and manhole
covers were Gowing fine. He indicated there was no standing water in Ms.
Jacobsen's yard.
Ms. Jacobsen stated she did not have a logical explanation for what was going on,
but she did not believe it was a coincidence that they were pumping Karth Lake,
and now she had moisture problems. She stated even with all of the rain they had
this summer she had no problems with moisture until they started pumping Karth
Lake. She noted if they continued to pump Karth Lake over the next couple of
weeks and she continued to !lave problems, she would need to come back to the
City for help.
Council Member Aplikowski asked if any of her neighbors had moisture
problems. Ms. Jacobsen replied she had spoken with the neighbors, and the ones
she had spoken with stated their yards were very wet, but they did not have
moisture in their basements.
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Pat Krenn, 1230 Wvncrest Court, stated 15 years ago his lower level got wet
like Ms. Jacobsen's basement due to the City pumping Karth Lake over a short
period o[time. He stated he did not have a problem while they were pumping, but
shortly afterwards; there was a 5-inch rainfall that collapsed the storm sewer
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farther down the street which collected in his pond. He noted thcre werc nine
springs in Karth Lake and one of those springs went into his pond. He stated Ms.
Jacobsen's property is situated on a former pond.
Mr. Krenn stated since they had started pumping Karth Lake the water table
around his home and his pond had gone down. He expressed concern that they
would not be able to ice skate on the pond this year if it continued to go down.
Mr. Krenn suggested stopping the pumping of Karth Lake temporarily to see if
this was causing the problems at Ms. Jacobsen's home.
Mayor Probst asked if they had taken the elevations of the pond. Mr. Brown
replied they had not, but they would.
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Ms. Jacobsen asked if it would make sense to let nature do its part and come to
some agreement to reduce the pumping of Karth Lake. She stated she was opposed
to the pumping originally, and now she was very much against the pumping
because she believed it was affecting her home. She asked what would happen
when the ground started freezing. Would she continue to have problems? Mr.
Brown replicd they expected the pumping to be completed within the next three
weeks, and the ground would not be frozen during that time. He noted if the water
started freezing in the pipe, they would stop pumping.
Ms. Jacobsen asked if someone could investigate if hcr home was sitting on a
former pond. Mr. Parrish replied the City had aerial photos dating back to the
1940's and that they would look into this issue.
Council Member Larson suggested reducing the pumping by one-half the volume,
which would still allow the City to address the concerns of the residents of Karth
Lake.
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MOTION: Council Member Aplikowski moved and Council Member
Grant seconded a motion to authorize the stafI to check Ms.
Jacobsen's home, the surrounding properties, and the propcrties
around Karth Lake and Wyncrest Court that were suspected of
having problem associated with the pumping of Karth Lake.
Staff was also authorized to make the decision to go to one-half
pumping immediately. StafI was authorized to stop pumping
entirely if they deternline thc pumping was affecting residents
in the Wyncrest Court area.
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Council Member Larson requested they revisit this issue at their next workshop
mceting to determine ifthcy should stop the pumping or reduce the now.
Council Member Rem asked that the residents of Karth Lake and the Wyncrest
Court neighborhood be informed about the Work Session meeting, if thcy were
going to discuss this issue again.
MOTION: Council Member Larson moved and Mayor Probst seconded a
motion to amend the previous motion to authorize staff to
measure the flow at the outlet, determine the impact the
pumping may be having on the area, but NOT reduce any now
rate until they met at Work Session next week.
Council Member Rem noted she still supported Council Member Aplikowski's
original motion to cut the now in half.
Mayor Probst stated his concem was that he did not bclieve any change to the flow
would solve Ms. Jacobsen's problem.
Amended Motion failed (2-3). (Mayor Probst and Council Member Larson - Yea.
Council Members Rem, Aplikowski, and Grant - Nay.)
Original Motion passed (4-1 ).). (Council Members Grant, Larson, Aplikowski, and
Rem- Yea. Mayor Probst - Nay.)
6. COM\WNITY SERVICES
A. Fireworks Ordinance No. 342
Mr. Panish explained that the Lake Johanna Fire Department was requesting that
member cities consider passing an Ordinance regulating consumer fireworks.
More specifically, they were requcsting that a license be required to sell and store
fireworks in the city.
B. TCAAP - Update
Mr. Parrish stated staff had had various meetings with thc Development Team,
Ramsey County Parks and the DNR, and John Shardlow, DSU. He updated the
Council on the various meetings.
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Mayor Probst noted thcy needed to keep in mind that a north/south connection was
very important and had been a part of the Vento Plan.
7. OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE
None.
8. ADMINISTRATION
A. Personnel: Appointment of Sandra Byl to Regular Part-time Status
Mr. Lynch stated Ms. Byl began working for the City as a part-time Customer
Service Reprcsentative II. Ms. Byl had completed her six-month training period
and per the Personnel Policy, Ms. Byl was evaluated at the end ofthat period. Her
performance had been satisfactory. Staff recommended the Council appoint Ms.
Byl on a regular, part-time basis.
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MOTION: Council Member Aplikowski moved and Council Member Rem
seconded a motion to appoint Sandra Byl to regular part-time
status as Customer Service Representative II. The motion
carried unanimously (4-0). (Council Member Larson was not
present for the vote.)
B. Discussion: TCAAP Advisory Panel
Mr. Parrish stated the candidates for the TCAAP Master Planning Advisory Panel
Community Representative seats had been ranked by the Council, and askcd if the
Council wanted to set up interviews for the Octobcr 21, 2002 Work Session.
MOTION: Council Member Rem movcd and Council Member Aplikowski
seconded a motion to appoint the top six candidates to the
TCAAP Advisory Panel.
Mr. Lynch noted the Council had originally told thc candidates there was going to
be an interview process, and it would be necessary to communicate with each
candidate abOlLt the Council's logic not to hold interviews.
Mayor Probst stated he would likc to accept the top four candidates, or interview
. all of the candidates.
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Council Member Aplikowski notcd if they were going to interview candidates,
they needed to interview all ofthc candidates.
MOTION: Council Member Aplikowski moved and Mayor Probst
scconded to amend the previous motion to appoint six
candidates to the Advisory Board after intervicwing all twelve
candidates
Amendment canied (3-2). (Mayor Probst, Council Members
Aplikowski and Rcm - Yea. Council Members Larson and
Grant - Nay.)
Original Motion failed (2-2-1) (Council Member Aplikowski
and Mayor Probst- Yea. Council Members Larson and Grant-
Nay. Council Member Rem- abstained.)
MOTION: Council Member Larson moved and Mayor Probst seconded a
motion to approve the top six candidates plus Sharon Klump,
who was rated number one by one of the Council Members.
Council Member Larson noted he did not see the point in interviewing twelve
candidates.
Council Member Aplikowski stated she supported appointing the bottom SIX
candidates as altemates.
Motion failed (2-3). (Council Member Larson and Mayor
Probst - Yea. Council Members Grant, Aplikowski, and Rem
Nay.)
MOTION: Council Member Grant moved to appoint the bottom SIX
candidates as alternates.
Motion failed for lack of a second.
Council .Member Rem noted Mayor Probst did not call for a second to the motion.
MOTION: Council Member Grant movcd and Council Membcr Rem
seconded a motion to appoint the top six candidates to the
TCAAP Advisory Panel, and to appoint the bottom six
candidates as altemates.
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. The motion carried (4-1). (Mayor Probst - Nay.)
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Council Member Aplikowski stated she would like to see a small business owner
appointed as a Business Representative in addition to Guidant Corporation.
C. Metropolitan Council Redistricting Proposition
Mr. Lynch explained the State was required to redraw boundarics for each of the
Metropolitan Council Districts. He noted the Metropolitan Council had provided
three options for consideration: Alternative 1 aligned Arden Hills with the
surrounding communities of Shoreview, Mounds View, New Brighton, and
Vadnais Heights. Alternative 2 aligned Arden Hills in a district with a portion of
the City of Minneapolis. Alternative 3 aligned Arden Hills with the cities of Coon
Rapids, Fridley and Spring Lake Park. He asked for thc Council's
recommendations.
MOTION: Council Member Grant moved and Council Member Larson
seconded a motion to instruct staff to draft a lettcr to the
Metropolitan Council in support of Option I, and to propose
that Roseville, Lauderdale, and Falcon Heights be traded for
Maplewood and North St. Paul. The motion carried
unanimoLlsly (5-0).
D. Livable Communities Grant - Metropolitan Council
Mayor Probst noted therc was an issue raised at the last meeting regarding the
contract. He indicated he had since looked at this issue and he believed this should
be discussed further.
Council Mcmber Grant noted the Council was led to believe this was a planning
grant with no strings attached, but in reading through the contract there was a
clause or two which was of concern to him because it did not leave all of the
planning options open. He stated he did not believe this was in line with the values
of the community.
Mayor Probst noted they had already approved this and he supported their original
decision.
Council Member Larson bclieved they were making a mountain out of a molehill
and suggested thcy let the planning process occur.
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. Council Member Rem stated she also had a concern regarding the requirements of
the contract, and noted the Council had not agreed to support the requirements of
the contract.
Council Member Aplikowski asked if they needed the grant to continue the
process. Mr. Parrish replied they would have to amend their budget to make up the
difference, or utilize the City funds. Hc statcd thcy had other alternatives in the
event they did not have it.
Council Member Aplikowski stated she was against the premature planning they
had experienced and thc mandates of the contract.
MOTION: Council Member Grant moved and Council Member
Aplikowski seconded a motion to extcnd the Council meeting
until 10:30 p.rn. The motion carricd unanimously (5-0).
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Council Member Larson stated if the Metropolitan Council did not agree with the
planning process in the end and wanted the money back, then they would give the
money back, but he supported going forward with the planning process.
Mayor Probst indicated the Metropolitan Council was not going to go away and
stated they needed to work with thern. He noted if they did not accept this grant, it
would impair the City's ability to obtain grants in the fLlture. He urged the Council
to stay with their original decision.
MOTION: Council Member Grant moved and Council Member
Aplikowski seconded a motion to authorizc the City
Administrator to return the grant money back to the
Metropolitan Council.
Mr. Lynch noted they had not actually received any money at this point. Mr.
Panish replied they had not executed the contract yet.
Council Mcmber Aplikowski stated they did not need the grant money, and she
did not believe they should tie themselvcs to the Metropolitan Council more than
they were already required to be.
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Council Member Grant noted the Vento Plan did not address mixed use or high
density and the City had agreed to follow the Vento Plan.
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Mayor Probst stated he believed they were better off partnering with the
Metropolitan Council.
Council Member Rem noted they should be partnering with the residents and
businesses in Arden Hills.
Council Member Rem noted she would be comfortable with signing the contract,
only if it was the Council's understanding that the money may need to be returned,
ifit did not meet the contract requirements ofthe Metropolitan Council.
Mr. Lynch noted the contract did not require any of the Metropolitan Council's
concerns, but instead "encouraged" the City Council to consider certain
suggestions. He noted nowherc in the contract did it address mixcd use or high
density.
Council Member Grant called the question.
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Motion failed (1-3-1). (Council Member Grant - Yea. Mayor
Probst and Council Members Larson and Rem - Nay. Council
Mcmber Aplikowski - Abstain.)
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CITY COUNCIL REPORTS
Council Member Grant had no comments.
Council Member Larson had no comments.
Council Member Aplikowski stated she came being prepared to stop the pumping
on Karth Lake, so hopefully they could resolve that issue to the benefit of
evcryone. She requested staff put on the agenda for the 28th Work Session a
discussion of AMM Policy Recommendations.
Council Member Rem stated there was a recent artiele in the Pioneer Press that
included a comment on hcr membership on the TCAAP and RAB and requested
clarification ofthis comment.
Mayor Probst updated Council on a recent meeting with Guidant and requested a
future Work Session discussion regarding Guidant's proposal for the park
. dedication fee.