HomeMy WebLinkAbout02-13-2024 PTRC
Chair:
Jill Anderson (2024)
Committee Members:
Dan Dietz (2024)
Lacy Loosbrock (2025)
Tim Nelson (2024)
Kerri Seemann (2025)
Kate Olson, Vice Chair (2025)
Emelia Rogers (2025)
Nancy Jacobson (2025)
Abigail Weber (2024)
Elizabeth Johnson (2026)
Youth Committee Member:
Maeve Edgar (term exp. 8/31/2024)
Council Liaison:
Emily Rousseau
Arden Hills
Parks, Trails and
Recreation Committee
February 13, 2024
6:30 pm
1245 W. Highway 96
Arden Hills, MN 55112
651-792-7800
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Agenda
CALL TO ORDER
1. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. January 23, 2024
3. REPORTS
A. Council Liaison Update
4. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
A. Trail and Parks Projects Update
B. Arden Oaks & Freeway Park Wish list
5. NEXT MEETING
A. Tuesday, March 19
6. ADJOURNMENT
CITY OF ARDEN HILLS
PARKS, TRAILS AND RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 12, 2023, 6:30 PM
ARDEN HILLS CITY HALL
CALL MEETING TO ORDER
Committee Chair Jill Anderson called the January 23, 2024 meeting of the Parks, Trails, and
Recreation Committee to order at 6:31 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chair Jill Anderson, Committee Members Nancy Jacobson, Dan Dietz,
Kerri Seemann, Lacy Loosbrock, Abigail Weber, Tim Nelson, Kate Olson, Emelia Rogers (arrived
at 7:20 pm) and Youth Committee Member Maeve Edgar
OTHERS PRESENT: Council Liaison Emily Rousseau and Recreation Supervisor Matt Johnson
ABSENT: None
1. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
The agenda was unanimously approved.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. December 12, 2023 PTRC Minutes
Council Liaison Rousseau noted one change to Item 5B.
Youth Committee Member Edgar mentioned that Committee Member Weber was absent.
Committee Member Olson stated she was present but listed as absent.
A motion was made by Committee Member Olson and seconded by Committee Member
Dietz to approve the minutes as amended. Motion passed unanimously.
3. REPORTS
A. Council Liaison Update
Council Liaison Rousseau thanked Chair Anderson and Vice-Chair Olson for stepping into those
roles. She said Rice Creek Commons is moving forward with a maximum density of 1,960. Next
steps are to develop a main development plan. The spine road will most likely not be completed
until 2027. The developer is expected to spend about $16 million to build parks and green spaces.
Committee Member Olson thanked Committee Member Jacobson for attending that meeting and
making sure parks were mentioned in the TCAAP discussion.
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Council Liaison Rousseau stated she and the Mayor would be drafting a code of conduct for
committees and commissions. She would like to have input from someone on PTRC.
Committee Member Dietz offered to give input.
Council Liaison Rousseau mentioned the State of the City would be at 10:00 am on February 10
at City Hall. She said the Council discussed the PMP and trail rehabilitation impacting the Floral
Park neighborhood. Council approved naming the triangle park South Point Park. She appreciated
the PTRC recommendation and explained that Councilmember Holden had a friend that used to
care for the park and this was one of his suggestions. She told the City Council about some of the
motions that PTRC made, and it sound like they may be able to do a presentation of their goals at
the March work session. An open house would probably have to be pushed past spring. A
prescribed burn would need to be communicated with the neighborhood so that won’t happen yet.
Council Liaison Rousseau said Committee Members Nelson, Dietz and Anderson each have
terms expiring in 2024, and Committee Member Weber and Youth Committee Member Edgar will
be done in August. She asked them to let her know if they were considering renewing for another
three years. There are currently three openings on the Committee with one applicant they will be
interviewing. There is also an opening on the Economic Development Commission and the
Planning Commission will have an opening for a Commissioner and an alternate.
4. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
A. PTRC Procedure and Planning Discussion
Chair Anderson said they are hoping to come up with a clear plan as to what projects they’d like
to focus on throughout the year so they can be better at articulating to the Council what they’d like
to have done. She noted that Committee Member Seemann and former member Kelliher had
provided a lot of details and plans. She would like to come up with four or five projects for 2024
and create committees to work on those.
Councilmember Rousseau felt the PTRC is going in a great direction and they should solicit
feedback from the group to see if it’s working and what they’d like to make different.
Chair Anderson said the progress and types of things they are doing now are very different from
the past.
Committee Member Jacobson thought having work being done in the background with
committees could be a nice way to get things done.
Chair Anderson said once working groups are established they would provide updates to the
Committee to let them know if there was anything they wanted the group to act on or give feedback
on.
B. Trail and Parks Projects Update
Recreation Supervisor Johnson reviewed the memo from Assistant Public Works Director
Miller which included new/updated items:
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Safe Routes to School from MVHS to E2 down Lake Valentine Road/Old Highway 10
is paved. There will be some repair work needed in the Spring but the trail is plowable
this winter and it can be used by pedestrians at this time.
Floral and Arden Manor parks are substantially completed and open. Hardcourt
striping, site clean-up and restoration of both parks will be completed in the Spring.
The 2023 CIP for Parks has been provided in the past and is available online. For the
2025 Parks Project (Arden Oaks Park & Freeway Park), it is requested that the
Committee Members of the PTRC review the parks and provide comments to City Staff
so that they can be presented to Council at an upcoming Work Session with
recommendations from Public Works maintenance perspective.
C. Bathroom Locks
Recreation Supervisor Johnson said a motion was made to bring this item to a Council work
session, but was it was tabled at another meeting for further discussion.
Chair Anderson thought the concern was that Public Works didn’t support it. The Council could
approve it anyway, so if PTRC thinks it’s a good idea they could still present it to Council as a
way of public access to the bathrooms.
Committee Member Olson thought it would save someone renting the building from picking up
a key for the bathroom, but they’d still have to pick up a key for the kitchen.
Committee Member Jacobson thought they were talking about having the bathroom open in the
summer when there would be extra crew at the park to maintain the fields, so the bathrooms could
be checked at that time.
Committee Member Weber wondered if they could put the downsides that have led them to table
it. She noted it wasn’t supported by Public Works, and there were issues regarding labor
requirements.
Recreation Supervisor Johnson said it depended on how much they were open. If the expectation
was that they were open every day, there would be more cleaning involved. He didn’t think it
could be open in the winter as the water gets shut off. There are Public Works staff on call on
weekends for pavilion rentals that clean after the event is done.
Committee Member Dietz understood why Public Works wouldn’t support it, did we know what
they thought they’d be expected to do?
Recreation Supervisor Johnson thought it was more of the idea of another thing added to their
plate. Once it becomes a thing, someone has to take care of it, and that would be Public Works.
Youth Committee Member Edgar saw it as a positive thing, and maybe it if went to a work
session they could get a better idea of what the labor would be. She felt they should motion to pass
it along.
Committee Member Jacobson agreed. She thought it would be a good way to communicate to
Council that they thought it was important to have accessibility to the bathrooms, and maybe
Council would come up with options. Did they want to make a motion to have the locks put on
and not worry about when they’ll be open; they could let the Council or Public Works decide that.
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Committee Member Nelson said for $3,000 it would be an experiment. If they don’t like it they
don’t have to keep it open. Spend the $3,000, play around with it and learn. If it works they can
do it at other places.
A motion was made by Youth Committee Member Edgar Olson and seconded by Committee
Member Olson to request that City Council install automatic locks on the Perry Park
pavilion bathrooms. Motion passed unanimously.
D. Lindey’s Roundabout
Committee Member Jacobson said some residents would like to see something other than grass
in the roundabout. She and Committee Member Seemann produced five options. She explained
the options that were shown on Attachment A, plus an additional option that included an oak tree.
All options except Option 1 would require the City to maintain the area. Are there options PTRC
supports, or should they present all of them to the Council?
Committee Member Dietz asked if they had feedback from Public Works regarding the extra
work involved.
Council Liaison Rousseau said there were no sprinklers installed so there would need to be
ground watering done. She knew Public Works hasn’t had any staff increases in a number of years
and it that constraint is a challenge.
Committee Member Nelson asked if Option 5 would require watering for a lot of years or just a
big need up front.
Committee Member Jacobson said it would be more for the first few years, they could have
watering bags filled periodically by volunteers. She wasn’t sure about the grasses.
Youth Committee Member Edgar thought the tree or Option 2 wouldn’t be that much of an extra
maintenance burden.
Recreation Supervisor Johnson clarified the City has no maintenance responsibility now, but
once they add anything it will become the City’s responsibility.
Committee Member Nelson was concerned about plows tossing snow and salt on the area and
making everything hard to grow, at least in the first couple of feet. He liked the option of focusing
on the center.
Committee Member Olson said there was a four-foot apron that she assumed wouldn’t get
plowed.
Committee Member Dietz said he looked on the State of MN Department of Transportation
website and they want to keep the height at three feet. He felt anything they add would add to a
loss of visibility.
Committee Member Jacobson explained the options would add to the center of the island. She
said maybe what’s in the middle isn’t of that much value because your busy looking at the road.
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Youth Committee Member Edgar understood that the first option would have more color at
some point. She wondered if the concern from residents because they thought it would look as it
does right now in the future. She noted changes would be an added burden on Public Works.
Committee Member Jacobson added that maintenance would have to be led by volunteers but
Public Works would allow them to use road signs that say people are working.
Council Liaison Rousseau thought that would be more for clean up in the spring and fall.
Committee Member Loosbrock said she thought part of the reason for the concrete apron was
so you could see around the roundabout. She liked the idea of having a tree as long as it wasn’t too
tall.
Committee Member Jacobson said the oak would be large and because it would be a fixed object,
Ramsey County would have to approve it, as opposed to a shrub.
Committee Member Seemann said another option would be to wait until they can have an open
house and get feedback from more residents.
Committee Member Loosbrock felt this wasn’t now or never, they would still have the option to
plant something.
Chair Anderson suggested they consider making it a part of their 2025 work plan.
Committee Member Jacobson thought if they incorporated Lindey’s Park that would generate
more interest from the neighborhood.
A motion was made by Chair Anderson and seconded by Committee Member Olson to table
the item and discuss incorporating it into a long-term plan after getting community feedback.
Motion passed unanimously.
E. Chatham Restoration Workgroup
Chair Anderson said she wasn’t sure where this project stood with the goats and restoration. She
hoped to have volunteers for a work group to help Committee Member Seemann.
Committee Member Seemann said she and Committee Member Jacobson had distributed surveys
to the Chatham neighborhood to get feedback on what kind of plant management they’d like to
see.
Council Liaison Rousseau asked if she wanted people for a work group or if she needed physical
volunteers.
Committee Member Seemann said physical volunteers would probably be the most useful.
Youth Committee Member Edgar felt there were opportunities to get volunteers from the high
school, she could add it to the National Honor Society newsletter.
Chair Anderson wondered if the Chatham restoration could be incorporated into their long-term
plan.
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Committee Member Seemann noted she didn’t deal with buckthorn until about August but would
start on garlic mustard in May.
A motion was made by Chair Anderson and seconded by Youth Committee Member Edgar
to table the formation of a work group for the Chatham restoration project until they more
formally address the 2024 goals. Motion passed unanimously.
F. Arden Oaks and Freeway Park Wish List
Recreation Supervisor Johnson explained they have two parks scheduled to be improved in
2025. He would like feedback on improvements they would like to add to the list of obvious
maintenance items that will be done. The playgrounds and courts will be replaced, and PTRC will
have input later on equipment they’d like to see.
After discussion the following items were requested for Arden Oaks Park: a sign on the west side
of the park, more benches that face out into the park instead of just into the soccer field, a new
picnic table, two different play structures for different age groups, bonus stand-alone items like a
little house or spinning piece, a bigger kid item like a rock wall or zip line, adaptive equipment
wheelchair/stroller friendly surface and a path to the playground equipment.
The following items were requested for Freeway Park: a gaga ball pit, swings for older kids, picnic
tables, a path from the upper to lower level, a cement, asphalt or refrigerated floor on the hockey
rink, rink boards redone, a warming house, remove the sand pit, add plantings between the park
and the County road and the neighbors, and level the area where the picnic tables are at.
5. NEW BUSINESS
A. South Point Park Signage
Recreation Supervisor Johnson said the Council agreed on South Point Park as the new name
for the triangle park. They are looking for recommendations for signage. There is already a
gateway sign on the property.
Discussion ensued regarding possible locations for a sign and promoting the checkerboard.
A motion was made by Committee Member Dietz and seconded by Youth Committee
Member Edgar to recommend not adding a regular park sign but to use smaller signage to
indicate that it is a park. Motion passed unanimously.
B. Memo Template Update
Chair Anderson noted that she updated the memo template to identify what action is being
requested of the committee.
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C. 2024 Workplan Draft
Chair Anderson stated that she added in an Action Idea to each item on the goal list. The 2024
workplan will identify what they want to accomplish this year and steps that need to be taken,
along with longer term projects. It will be presented to the City Council at their March work
session. She would like to discuss this version at the February PTRC meeting, along with what
work groups everyone would like to be involved in.
Discussion continued with how work groups’ efforts would evolve into more elaborate proposals
to bring to the Council.
6. NEXT MEETING
A. Tuesday, February 13, 2024
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 8:01 p.m.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS – 4A
MEMORANDUM
DATE: February 13, 2024
TO: Parks, Trails and Recreation Committee
FROM: Lucas Miller, Assistant Public Works Director
SUBJECT: Trail and Parks Projects Update
Previously Discussed Items:
Hazelnut Parking lot negotiations continue between the City and Trinity Lutheran
Church. The City has ordered geotechnical work in the lot to help determine the cost
impacts which will determine scope and extent of work.
City is working with a consultant to pursue grants and it is a candidate to pursue state
bonding funds for the trail from Lake Valentine Road to Highway 96 along Old Highway
10. Feasibility study has been completed for this project this last fall. Estimated project
cost is now projected to be $4.1 Mil since the 60% design is now completed. Estimated
construction would be in 2025/2026 dependent on funding awarded. The Open House
took place on 10/5/23 and was well attended. Great feedback was received. The
Consultant has been directed to pursue federal and state funding for safe routes to school
grants.
Lake Johanna Blvd conceptual trail study was completed by Ramsey County and they are
pursuing funding currently. They are shooting for a final design in 2028, dependent on
funding awarded. Estimated construction cost is $9.5M. Council has adopted resolution
2023-023 which is the local match commitment for Lake Johanna Blvd Trail Project
(estimated $2M). County is going for grants and bonding this year potentially up to
$5.5M. Ramsey County presented in November about the project corridor with Council.
Safe Routes to School from MVHS to E2 down Lake Valentine Road/Old Highway 10 is
paved. There will be some repair work needed in the Spring but the trail is plowable this
winter and it can be used by pedestrians at this time.
Floral and Arden Manor parks are substantially completed and open. Hardcourt striping,
site clean-up and restoration of both parks will be completed in the Spring.
New/Updated Items:
The 2023 CIP for Parks has been provided in the past and is available online. For the
2025 Parks Project (Arden Oaks Park & Freeway Park), it is requested that the
Committee Members of the PTRC review the parks and provide comments to City
Staff so that they can be presented to Council at an upcoming Work Session with
recommendations from Public Works maintenance perspective, as well.
Attachments
N/A
UNFINISHED BUSINESS – 4B
MEMORANDUM
DATE: February 13, 2024
TO: Parks, Trails and Recreation Committee
FROM: Matthew Johnson
SUBJECT: Arden Oaks & Freeway Park Wish List
Action Requested
Members discuss wish list improvements for Arden Oaks and Freeway Park. Please note general
playground and court improvement is already planned for both parks.
Background
PTRC December meeting PTRC meeting members were asked to make some wish list items for
the improvements of Arden Oaks and Freeway Park. At the January meeting members discussed
the following wish list items.
Arden Oaks: West Side Sign, update benches, Playground for two age groups, Playhouse style
playground equipment, big kid item – zipline, ninja course, adaptive equipment
Freeway: Make sure playground equipment is different than Arden Oaks, gaga ball pit, update
picnic tables, path from top to bottom, update rink boards, concrete under rink, glycol
(refrigeration for rink), remove sand pit, more swings
Action:
PTRC will recommend wish list items that could potentially add the park improvement plan.
Attachment
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