HomeMy WebLinkAboutCCWS 03-28-2005
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Approved: April 11, 2005
CITY OF ARDEN HILLS, MINNESOTA
CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION
MONDAY, MARCH 28, 2005, 8:15 P.M.
CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 1245 WEST HIGHWAY 96
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Aplikowski called the meeting to order at 8: 15 p.m.
Present: Mayor Beverly Aplikowski, Councilmembers David Grant, Gregg Larson, and
Brenda Holden.
Absent: Councilmember Lois Rem (excused).
Staff Present: City Administrator, Michelle Wolfe; Director of Operations & Maintenance,
Thomas Moore; Finance Director/Treasurer, Murtuza Siddiqui; Community
Development Director, Scott Clark; and Recording Secretary, Kathleen Altman.
. TCAAP PUBLIC FINANCING
Mr. Clark presented the draft and amended Resolution and the reformatted Public Finance
Policy as recommended by the City Attorney. He asked what additional questions did Council
have regarding the Public Financing Plan and when would Council want to act on this item.
Councilmember Grant asked with the financing tools, where was the risk. Stacie Kvilvang,
Ehlers & Associates, replied with General Obligation Assessment Bonds they would be
assessing 100 percent back to the property owners.
Collin Barr stated the City's assessment had a first interest before a mortgage and the land
would be more than the value of the special assessment being financed.
Conncilmernber Grant asked for the cost of each option. Ms. Kvilvang, replied the TIF bonds
would be at the market rate, special assessment bonds ranged anywhere between 4-5.5 percent
depending on the market.
Councilmelnber Grant noted the general obligation was less expensive than the TIF. Ms.
Kvilvang repliedthat was correct.
Councilmember Larson asked what the process was that the County Assessor used in assessing
the land.
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. Ms. Kvilvang noted the County Assessor would review where the final purchase price was, land
values of similar types of property, as well as what the future use was going to be.
Councilmember Larson asked if they dropped the value because of the clean-up. Ms.
Kvilvang stated that was a possibility. She then stated that Ehlers would review this.
Conncilmember Holden asked how the present school levy would impact this. Ms. Kv.ilvang
asked which school levies she was referring to.
Councilmember Larson stated he believed right now they had one operational and one capital
school levy.
Councilmember Larson stated at the public hearing there was a question about Falcon Heights.
He asked if staff had found out any further information. Ms. Wolfe stated they had a TIF district
established in the 1990's where the developer went bankrupt and another developer took over the
development. She noted this did not create difficulties because another developer took over the
agreement. She indicated the developer that had taken over the project requested the City
decertify the district, which the City did not want to do and this went to Court in which the
developer lost.
Bruce Kunkel, Economic Development Commission Chair, requested Ms. Kvilvang get back
to the Council regarding Councilmember Holden's question regarding the school levy.
. Councilmember Larson asked if there would be a series ofTIF Agreements. Mr. Barr replied
that was correct and each sequential phase of development could have separate a TIF.
Councilmember Grant asked if this was approved, how would CRR plaImed to use it. Mr.
Barr replied it meant the Council was facing the reality that for a property of this scale and
nature, it will require some amount ofTIF and for different cities, TIF could be an issue and that
was why they wanted to bring this to the table at this time. He indicated it was important to
know if Council was or was not in favor of TIF because that decision would change the
development. He noted it was clearly better to get a State and/or Federal grant as opposed to a
TIF note or a special assessment.
Councilmember Grant asked how CRR would use this document. Mr. Barr replied having
this public financing policy in place would assist them in obtaining third-party financing.
Councilmember Holden asked if the County could use some of this money for improvement of
County roads. Ms. Kvilvang stated there was a provision requiring notification of the County it
there was going to be an impact to County roads in which the County could require the
improvemer,t of the roads be used with this money.
Mr. Barr stated it was his experience that this could be negotiated in advance with the County.
Mr. Clark noted this was something they would be looking at with the County.
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. Councilmember Holden asked if there was anything else that could eat away at the TIF. Ms.
Kvilvang replied she believed County Roads was the only thing that she could think of unless
the State Auditors changed their figures for some reason.
Mayor Aplikowski asked how the Council felt about the affordable housing requirements. She
noted this could playa part in the public financing also.
Councilmember Larson noted there were creative ways to incorporate affordable housing. He
stated he would support a broader mix of housing.
Councilmember Grant stated he wanted to see this be a first class development and affordable
housing, while it had a place, did not pull in as much TIF as other housing types. He stated ifhe
had to take a side, he would want a high scale development. Ms. Kvilvang noted apartments
being built today had affordable units in them, but you could not tell which they were and
therefore, the appraiser did not differentiate this. She noted the biggest disparity was in the
single-family homes, so most of the affordable housing, if any, could probably be in the higher
density areas.
Councilmember Larson noted other funding authorities might be more willing to assist with
funding if there is affordable housing.
Former Mayor Dennis Probst also noted there were life cycle developments which should also
. be looked at. He indicated seniors had no choice but to leave the community when they sold
their singe-family homes and the kids who lived in the community could not afford to buy within
the community once they were out of school. He noted the school district attendance was
declining at an alarming rate because young families could not afford to live within the
commtmity and this was something they needed to take into consideration.
Mayor Aplikowski noted work force housing was important to her and she recommended they
have some of this type of housing.
Mr. Clark asked if Council wanted to consider the policy at their April II th Council meeting.
Councilmember Larson responded he did.
Conncilmember Grant responded his inclination was to say yes. He asked where they were on
the timeline. Mr. Barr replied they were a little behind on the timeline, but it was important the
Council was in agreement with this and it be a unanimous agreement. He noted they were under
tight timeframes with the Army and GSA.
Conncilmember Grant stated he would like the residents to understand more about this
financing, but he realized that could take a long time. He suggested they get the residents to
understand this better. He noted by renaming this development from TCAAP to something else,
he believed this would raise the awareness of the development with the residents.
. Councilmember Holden stated it was fine with her to put this on the April II th agenda.
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. Mr. Barr stated he wanted to make sure they were doing this right and were achieving the goals
the City wanted, as well as not exposing the City to unacceptable levels of risk. He asked if the
City was committed to using up to 70 Million in TIF for this project, or was there a value
judgment Councilmembers held in the back of their mind.
Councilmember Grant stated he wanted a quality development, but he was not sure they all had
the same vision as to what quality was. He indicated the water feature was an important feature
for him. He stated he wanted to shoot for something high and not low.
Mayor Aplikowski agreed with Councilmember Grant's comments. She also believed the water
feature was important. She noted whatever they did, it needed to be done in a quality way
incorporating work force housing.
Ms. Wolfe noted an important point to keep in mind was Council could revise the plan if they
were not comfortable with the amount ofTIF financing.
Councilmember Holden stated she did not have any questions.
Mayor Aplikowski stated they had to stop saying this was not going to cost the current residents
of Arden Hills any money ever. She noted this would not be a separate City and there would be
. opportunities that would benefit everybody. She indicated the development cost would not be
carried by the existing residents, but the operating cost to the City could bear some future burden
to all residents in the City.
Councilmember Larson stated he was comfortable with the goal of not burdening the existing
taxpayers with the cost of the development. However, he noted every decision Council made
was not limited to the people who benefit from it and that was how this City developed. He
indicated they needed to recognize that in the future there would probably be a windfall once the
TIF period ended because of this proj ect. Therefore, the best goal would be to limit levy
increases to the rate of inflation.
Mr. Kunkel stated the EDC was struggling with the aging connnunity and there are a lot of
people living on fixed incomes and they needed to be aware of those things as they moved
forward. He stated it was the desire of the EDC that those taxpayers are not burdened. He
indicated they needed to put their best effort forward in trying to achieve that.
Councilmember Grant believed Councilmember Larson's comments were good if this TIF
district was five years or less, but this was being proposed as a 26 year TIF district.
Councilmember Larson stated he wanted a high quality development and if they expected this
high quality, they would need to pay for that value.
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. TCAAP INTERIM AGREEMENT #2
Mr. Clark presented the original Interim Agreement (Draft #10) and the Interim Agreement
Amendment #1 - Extension of Term for Council's comments. He also presented the TCAAP
expense tracking spreadsheets for Phase I (original Interim Agreement) and Phase II
(Amendment #1).
The Council asked various questions regarding the spreadsheets.
Mayor Aplikowski requested any emails sent with questions/answers to the developer,
consultant, or staff, be emailed to every Councilmember to keep everyone informed.
Councilmember Grant noted they needed to be aware that that Council should not be emailing
each other as a way to conduct discussions outside of official meetings.
The meeting adjourned at 10:05 p.m.
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Michelle Wolfe
Mayor City Administrator
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