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Approved: November 29,2004
CITY OF ARDEN HILLS, MINNESOTA
CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION
MONDAY, OCTOBER 18, 2004, 4:45 P.M.
CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 1245 WEST HIGHWAY 96
1. Call To Order
Mayor Aplikowski called the meeting to order at 4:55 p.m.
Present: Mayor Aplikowski, Councilmembers: Gregg Larson, David Grant, Brenda Holden,
Lois Rem
Absent: None
Staff present: Finance Director, Murtuza Siddiqui; Operations & Maintenance Director,
Thomas J. Moore; Assistant to the City Administrator, Schawn Johnson; Community
. Development Director, Scott Clark; City Engineer, Greg Brown
Others Present: Mark Lindeberg, MnDOT and Mark Guest, MnDOT
2005 Citv Council-Staff Retreat
In past years, members of the City Council and management team have participated in a
facilitated retreat. The intent of this retreat is to evaluate thc City's vision, goals, and mission for
the up-coming year.
City staff is seeking the guidance of the City Council in determining whether or not there is an
interest in scheduling a retreat for the beginning of next year. Also, would the City Council like
to have the same facilitator or should a new organizational consultant be brought in for the
retreat?
Members of the City Council felt that a new facilitator should be brought in to evaluate and
review the City's vision, mission, and goals for 2005.
Mayor Aplikowski felt that the facilitator should focus on Arden Hill's future goals as a
community.
City staff will begin the research process of finding a new retreat facilitator. It was al so
suggested that the upstairs area at City Hall not be used for the retreat. Last year the upstairs
. area was very cold and uncomfortable. The downstairs meeting area at City Hall would be more
desirable for hosting this event.
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Environmental Assessment Proiect for 1-694
Mark Lindeberg, representing MnDOT, provided a presentation to members of the City Council
and staff regarding the environmental assessment project for 1-694, 1-35W, and I-35E. The
proposed changes to the freeway system will affect the freeway interchanges located in Arden
Hills. The intent of this presentation is to give the City Council a brief introduction to the
proposed project and allow Council the opportunity to provide input regarding the concept plans.
The proposed project is part of MnDOT's initiative to unweave the weave along freeways in the
Minneapolis/St. Paul metropolitan area. The concept plan recommends a 6-lane section for 1-
694 with 3 lanes of traffic moving in both directions. The 1-694 exit ramps for Snelling and
Lexington Avenues would be considcred a joint right-hand exit ramp.
Mr. Lindeberg noted on the 1-694 Concept Plan Map Section #3 that the proposed interchange
improvements to Rice Street would increase TOad capacity and minimize gridlock problems at
this interchange. The proposed improvements will result in raised medians and better access
along Rice Street.
It was also noted that MnDOT is currently working with Ramsey County to review the concept
plans and create an alternative plan that would minimize construction damage to the wetlands
and lake areas along 1-694.
. Community Development Director Scott Clark wondered if MnDOT had taken into
consideration the 5,000 new jobs that are being created at Guidant Corporation and its impact on
Lexington Avenue.
Lindeberg noted t1lat the Met Council has not taken into consideration the new jobs at Guidant
Corporation while developing the preliminary plans.
Councilmember Larson noted that the City loses local access to Highway 10 and Hamline
Avenue in this proposal.
Mayor Aplikowski mentioned that the residents would like to keep Hamline Avenue a residential
road and not an access for thru traffic.
Arden Hills resident George Gernander feels that MnDOT's proposal would cutoff neighborhood
access to the freeway system.
Councilmember Larson mentioned that this proposal is based upon a number of assumptions.
The modeling process is necessary to determine whether or not this proposal would work This
exercise is needed to determine the impact on the community. The focus of this improvement
project is on regional traffic and not local neighborhoods.
. Mr. Gernander stated t11at the new business developments in Arden Hills are adding a lot of
traffic congestion.
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. Councilmember Rem feels that residents want access to the freeway system but do not want to
deal with the traffic problems or inaccessibility.
Mayor Aplikowski asked Mr. Gernander if he would prefer to have local access or better traffic
movement.
Mr. Gernander believes that the current plan would result in more traffic on County Road F and
Lexington Avenue.
Mark Lindeberg mentioned that the modeling process is underway. The modeling process will
provide MnDOT with a more detailed study to address traffic issues that were not considered in
the original plan. Changes can be made to the original plan, but they may result in increased
costs due to the impacts on wetlands and right-of-way areas. Hopefully the modeling will
identify areas that can be changed with a minimal cost impact on the project. MnDOT is very
interested in local input and feels that it is important to compile a list of thoughts and ideas from
the communities that are affected by this proposal.
Mayor Aplikowski stated that more people will be working in Arden Hills and better access will
be needed in the future.
Mr. Lindeberg realizes that this is a concern for the City. At this time the proposed project is
only in the preliminary planning stages. The State of Minnesota has not budgeted past 2012 for
. road reconstruction proj ects.
Councilmember Larson noted that the modeling for the 1-694 improvement project is based upon
a number of assumptions due to the fact that the 35W corridor group has not completed its
modeling process at this time.
Mr. Lindeberg mentioned that some assumptions are being made, but the engineer must work
wi th the existing infrastructure.
Councilmember Grant was wondering what is post 2012?
MnDOT considers all projects that are not budgeted for at this time to be post 2012 projects.
Mayor Aplikowski was wondering why Rice Street is considered more important then Lexington
Avenue? Shouldn't Rice Street and Lexington Avenue be treated the same.
Engineer Greg Brown feels that Lexington Avenue has high density commercial traffic that
needs to be identified in this proposal. The original plans do not take into consideration the
business growth that is occurring on Lexington A venue. Also, the Highway 96 access question
needs to be addressed.
Councilmember Larson would like to see a future meeting planned to address the 694 and 35W
. proj ect concerns. He feels that a number of these concerns need to be addressed before the
community can buy into this project.
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. Mayor Aplikowski wants to make sure that the City is given a good justification stating why the
existing on-off ramps may be closed.
Councilmember Grant mentioned that modeling is important, but it does not show how traffic
flows impact the neighborhoods.
The proposed project maps will he available for review in the Community Development
Department.
Engineer Brown asked if storm water ponding is being addressed?
Mr. Lindeberg stated that the storm water plans are in its infancy, but they are being addressed.
This project may feel like a long way out, but the environmental assessment testing is scheduled
to be completed in November 2005.
Iffunding dollars are available, this project could begin sooner than 2012.
Mayor Aplikowski wondered how long the public had to comment on the proposed plans.
MnDOT would like to receive public comments from Arden Hills residents hefore Thanksgiving.
Revised CIP/Pavment Manal!ement 2005-2009/Utillitv Rate Sfudv
. Finance Director Murtuza Siddiqui provided the City Council with a brief overview of the utility
rate study and proposed CIPlPavement Management Projects. In the City Council packet the
following information was provided:
I. Revised Utility Rate Study;
2. Preliminary 2005-2009 CIP Spreadsheet;
3. Changes to Preliminary 2005-2009 CIP Spreadsheet;
4. Detailed Listing ofthe Proposed CIP Projects.
Finance Director Siddiqui noted that the projects outlined in the CIP have been incorporated into
the Utility Rate Study and any future changes made to the CIP will impact future fund balances.
Mr. Siddiqui noted that the CIP currently takes into consideration costs associated with
infrastructure repairs, vehicles, and the future SCADA system.
Members of the City Council raised concerns regarding the City's mill and overlay and road
reconstruction schedule.
Engineer Greg Brown stated that the City prefers to mill and overlay streets after 15 years and
full depth bituminous repairs to the roadway after 30 years, if necessary. MnDOT typically
guarantees a road for 20 years.
Councilmember Holden recommended that staff create a map that identifies the individual streets
. that are affiliated with the different neighhorhood projects.
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. Engineer Brown stated that the City will attach a map to identify the different streets in the
neighborhood projects.
Councilmember Grant wondered why the City has so many reconstruction projects scheduled?
Greg Brown mentioned that the City evaluates and rates the bituminous surface, drainage, curb
and gutter, storm water drainage, and the status of the utilities before determining a project's
priority status. Typically asphalt that is rated with a 60-80% PCI is scheduled for mill and
overlay. If the bituminous surface receives a rating under 60%, the bituminous surface may need
to be reconstructed.
Councilmember Holden asked if PCI is the largest factor in determining road repairs.
Engineer Brown agreed that the PCI rating is the largest factor in determining future road repairs.
Councilmember Larson wondered what changed in the utility rate study?
Finance Director Siddiqui stated that the numbers did change a little bit. The City's cash balance
dropped when the projected utility rates were set at $18.00 per household on average as
requested by the Council
Councilmember Larson was wondering why the cash balance dropped?
. Mr. Siddiqui mentioned that study is a "cash flow" model. A reduction in revenue resulted in a
drop in the cash balance. Mr. Siddiqui also noted that the revenue portion of the utility rate study
dropped as did the numbers on the proposed CIP projects. The average rate increase is $ I 8.00
per quarter for residents that use 15,000 gallons of water during the winter months. If a resident
uses more than 15,000 gallons of water their utility bill will show an increase based upon their
consumption. It was also pointed out that the proposed rate structure has a usage component for
sewer rates beyond the 15,000 gallons per quarter average.
Councilmember Grant asked which projects were pushed back or removed?
Engineer Brown reported that the sanitary sewer fund was reduced and the number of lift stations
being remodeled were minimized from 3 to 2 on a yearly basis.
Finance Director Siddiqui noted that the proposed expenditures were based on today's material
cost. The cost for supplies and materials may rise in the future.
Engineer Brown mentioned that water repairs are fairly reasonable in cost. The City has already
repaired approximately 30,000 feet of clay pipe and 15,000 feet of water line that has been sealed
or lined. The City has approximately $3.5 million in lining and sealing projects over the next 13
years. The worst water pipe areas in the City have already been repaired.
. Councilmember Larson believes that the City may have to construct a new water tower if the
City proceeds with the TCAAP project.
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. Engineer Brown stated that a water tower may be needed in the future, but hopefully future
developers will pay for this expense.
Finance Director Siddiqui mentioned that inflationary cost increases must be considered when
creating a CIP.
Councilmember Larson noted that a CIP is only a five year snap shot for the City.
Mayor Aplikowski believes that the City must sell the justification for the utility rate increase to
the public.
Engineer Brown suggested to the City Council that they set a yearly dollar limit on CIP projects.
Councilmember Grant raised concerns that during the past 3 years Arden Hills roads were not
chosen solely on the basis of PCI rating. He noted that south of Lindey's and Old Snelling
Avenue have numerous potholes and is in need of repair.
Councilmember Holden wondered if curb and gutter is part of the City's road reconstruction
plan?
Operations and Maintenance Director Tom Moore stated that curb and gutter is part of the City's
future road reconstruction plans.
. In response to Councilmember Grant's concerns, City Engineer Greg Brown stated the City
typically follows the PCI ratings when prioritizing street reconstruction projects. The City is
trying to attack this problem in a proactive manner.
Mayor Aplikowski also noted that the City has been behind on a number of seal coat projects.
Councilmember Rem asked when did the City reconstruct the north water tower?
Operations and Maintenance Director Moore stated that the north water tower was reconstructed
in July, 2001.
Councilmember Holden asked if the revenue from selling the two trucks is included in the
proposed CIP.
Finance Director Siddiqui stated that the revenue from selling the trucks is not included in the
CIP.
Councilmember Holden asked if the City should hold onto one the F-250 truck for the
Operations and Maintenance Director?
Finance Director Siddiqui felt that the repair costs for this vehicle may be too high to justify
. keeping it.
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. Councilmember Holden requested that the City Council send a thank you letter to Odd Fellows-
St. Paul Lodge No. 2 for allowing residents to use their parking lot during the street
reconstruction proj ect.
Councilmember Grant asked the City Engineer to review the Edgewater storm water drain in the
alleyway. It appears the drain is slightly upgrade.
Engineer Brown noted that the grade should be fairly level.
Councilmember Holden wondered how many trail signs are scheduled for removal?
Operations and Maintenance Director Moore stated that 10 to 12 existing signs will be removed
and replaced.
Councilmember Holden asked what the City receives for $21,0007
Mr. Moore said that the $2 I ,000 will cover 3 I new park trail signs and installation.
Mr. Siddiqui asked the City Council if staff should bring a formalS year CIP and the Utility Rate
Study to the next City Council meeting for adoption.
Council agreed that the proposed five year CIP and the Utility Rate Study should be placed on
. the agenda at the next meeting.
Mayor Aplikowski stated that the City Council would also like to receive a neighborhood project
map along with the proposed 5 year CIP.
Review of Old City Hall Purchase Offer
Community Development Director Scott Clark provided a brief overview of the purchase offer
that Royal Oaks Construction made to the City for the old City Hall location. Royal Oaks has
made an offer to the City of$1 million dollars for this location. This amount equals to $3.80 per
square foot based on approximately six acres of developable land. The proposal that was
submitted by Royal Oaks is to construct three unit office condominiums ranging in size from
4,500 to 6,500 square feet. The proposal is based upon the square footage of constructible
property ($25.00 per square foot of constructed office space).
Community Development Director Clark asked the City Council if the proposed usage of this
land is acceptable. City staff could have an appraisal done on the old City Hall site. This, in
turn, would include completing a Phase I environmental analysis.
Councilmember Holden asked if it is common to buy property on the basis of constructability.
Mr. Clark noted that it is acceptable but it is more common on residential projects.
. Councilmember Holden reviewed past meeting minutes and did not find any discussion
pertaining to proposed property uses for this site.
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. Community Development Director Clark believed he was given City Council direction to
quickly dispose of this property.
Councilmember Holden asked if the City should hold onto the property until the TCAAP project
begins. The property at this site may be worth more money in the future.
Mayor Applikowski does not believe that it would be wise for the City to hold onto this property
until the TCAAP project begins.
Councilmember Grant asked if the proposed project blends in with the existing neighborhood.
Councilmember Holden stated an appraisal ofthis property needs to be done.
Mr. Clark mentioned that the old City Hall property may not be worth as much ifit is sold as a
residential proj ect.
Councilmember Larson noted that this property may be hard to develop. It was his
understanding that the City did not intend to hold on to this property.
Community Development Director Clark asked the City Council if they want a formal appraisal
and environmental study done at this site. Once the appraisal and environmental study are
completed, should staff ask the proposed developer for a schematic drawing of the office
. condominiums at the old City Hall location? Clark also noted that the property at this site is long
and narrow. The proposed layout will be impacted by the property's dimensions.
Mayor Aplikowski asked if housing will be above the businesses.
Mr. Clark noted that the original plan does not include housing.
Councilmember Larson agrees that an appraisal should be done at this site. The developer may
be asked to bring forth a design plan that can be reviewed by members of the neighborhood.
Community Development Director Clark stated that he could provide the City Council with
digital pictures of existing office condominiums in the metro area.
Councilmember Larson noted that the City has complete leverage and control of this property.
The City is in an unusual position. He was also wondering ifthere is an existing easement on the
property or should this issue be a point of sale.
Mayor Applikowski asked if the City advertised this property?
Clark responded, "No."
Mayor Aplikowski asked if the City should advertise this property.
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. Community Development Director Clark noted that the problem with requests for proposals is
that it may take up to 9 months or longer before the project can begin and that small single site
requests usually do not solicit solid proposals.
Clark stated that he will have an appraisal done on the property to determine its market value.
TeAAP Interim Al!reement
Community Development Director Clark passed out a copy of the proposed TCAAP interim
agreement for City Council's review. The developer has already reviewed and agreed to the
proposed agreement extension language. The original development agreement expires on
November 8th
Mayor Aplikowski announced to the City Council that they should contact staff members if they
have any problems with the proposed agreement before next Monday's City Council meeting.
Councilmember Grant was wondering what staff thought about the proposed extension.
Community Development Director Clark believes that the proposed agreement will keep the
project alive for the next 6 months. Essentially, the 6 month extension gives us extra time to
create a funding plan.
Mayor Applikowski noted that the City should not move forward with the CRR agreement if we
. do not want to be a part of this agreement.
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Councilmember Rem wondered why the Economic Development Commission (EDe) is
reviewing the funding options for TCAAP and not the City Council.
Community Development Director Clark stated that the EDC will be asked to investigate
potential funding options for the TCAAP site. The original plan is to have the EDC spend a
minimum of 12 hours researching this project. If would be difficult for City Council members to
arrange 12 hours of their time to review this part of the project. The EDC is being utilized to
complete the ground work for the City Council.
The Economic Development Commission will review the following issues:
. Potential Funding Options;
. Review Similar Projects;
. Review the Different Ranges of Financial Assistance Available;
. Review the Potential Impact on Arden Hills.
Councilmembers are always welcome to attend the EDC meetings.
Mayor Aplikowski mentioned that there are numerous funding sources available for these types
of proj ects.
. Members of the City Council agreed to discuss the six month extension of the TCAAP interim
agreement at the next City Council meeting.
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. Council Reports
eouncilmember Lois Rem:
Councilmember Rem reported that a Planning Commission meeting is scheduled for Wednesday,
October 20th.
Ramsey County Sheriffs Department is hosting a neighborhood watch meeting at North Heights
Lutheran Church on October 21 st.
eouncilmember Brenda Holden:
Councilmember Holden reported that the NRC has been conducting testing at the TCAAP site.
eouncilmember David Grant:
Councilmember Grant asked if the hockey boards will be installed at Cummings Park. Mayor
Aplikowski stated that she thought Cummings Parks was only going to be a recreational rink.
Mr. Tom Moore stated that a neigbborhood meeting is being scheduled to address this issue.
Councilmember Grant raised conccms regarding the TCAAP project. He wondered what the
City wants to accomplish with this project. Should the City treat TCAAP as a separate City or
e create an escrow account for future improvements. He feels that TCAAP should pay for itself
without using taxpayer dollars. Mayor Aplikowski stated that the City will never use Arden
Hills tax dollars for TCAAP, but other expenses will be incurred for maintaining the water,
sewer, storm sewer, and streets.
Councilmember Grant asked who would cover any financial gaps?
Mayor Aplikowski stated that the City must be willing to invest some money to bring this project
up to our Arden Hills standards.
Councilmember Larson stated that the City should not be telling residents that TCAAP will not
cost the taxpayers any money.
Mayor Aplikowski noted that there is an indirect cost on the residents of Arden Hills for this
project.
Councilmember Larson also noted that if the City loses control of the TCAAP project we will no
longer control the project or proposed development activities.
Mayor Aplikowski:
Mayor Aplikowski requested that the City Council pictures be hung on a wall in the City Council
Chamber. Staff members will check into this matter.
. Mayor Aplikowski also requested that City staff follow-up with Ramsey County regarding the
traffic light study in Arden Hills. Tom Moore stated that he will follow-up with Ramsey County.
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. Staff Reports
Community Development Director Clark reported the following information:
. Economic Development Commission is scheduled to meet at City Hall on October 20th
at 7:00 AM.
. NRC meeting is being scheduled for mid to late November. More infonnation will be
available in the future.
. TCAAP redevelopment tour is scheduled fix October 30th at 8:00 AM.
The meeting adjourned at 9:15 PM
Respectfully submitted by Schawn P. Johnson, Assistant to the City Administrator.
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