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MINUTES OF REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING
Vi llage of Arden Hills
Monday, September 12, 1977 - 7:30 p.m.
Village Hall
Ca I I to 0 rde r
Pursuant to due cal I and notice thereof, Mayor Crepeau called
the meeting to order at 7:30.p.m.
Roll Call
Present - Mayor Henry J. Crepeau, Jr., Councilmen Ward Hanson,
Charles Crichton, Robert Woodburn.
Absent - Councilman James Wingert.
Also Present - Treasurer Donald Lamb, Clerk Administrator
Charlotte McNiesh, Deputy Clerk Dorothy Zehm.
. Approval of Minutes of Regular Council MeetlnQ of August 29, 1977
Woodburn moved, seconded by Crichton, that Councl I approve the
Minutes of the Regular Council Meeting of August 29, 1977, as
amended. Motion carried unanimously.
Business from the Floor
Douglas Barthany requested a status report relative to the hiring
of a Police Chief for Arden Hills, and queried whether City Is
consi derlng contracting for police protection with Ramsey County.
Mayor Crepeau reported that the Council wi II discuss
prepared by the Finance Committee re costs of County
police protection later on the agenda (Item 8 AI.).
selection has not been made to date.
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vs. City
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REPORT OF VILLAGE PUBLiC WORKS SUPERViSOR HANS JOHANSEN
Request for Additional Ful I-time Maintenance Employee and OJT
Student
Woodburn moved, seconded by CriChton, that Council authorize the
hiring of OJT student Carl Karth @ $2.80/hour for the balance of
year. Motion carried unanimously.
Crichton moved, seconded by Woodburn, that Council authorize the
hiring of a full-time qualified Public Works Department employee,
as outlined In Johanse.n memo of 9/18/77. Motion carried unanl-
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Suspension of Public Works Employee
Johansen referred Council to his memo of 9/9/77 re Suspension of
Public Works Employee, outlining the reasons for suspension, as
recommended by the Pubilc Works Committee and endorsed by Johansen.
Johansen reported he discussed the matter with the employee prior
to the time the employee was given letter advising of the three-
d!!lY suspension.
In rebuttal, Wayne Laundervllle read his response (dated 9/12/77)
to letter of 9/9/77 from City; requested Council to delay .ctlon
for one month; asked for a hearl ng before the Counc I' with his
Union representative present.
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After discussion, Woodburn moved, seconded by Hanson, that Council
approve and affirm the three-day suspension, without compensation.
Motion carried unanimously.
Mayor Crepeau advised Laundervllle that the Council wIll meet with
him and the Union representative at any time meeting can be arranged;
should make arrangements with Cijerk Administrator McNlesh.
REPORT OF VILLAGE PLANNER ORLYN MiLLER
Case No. 77-33.Speelal Use PermIt for Twin City Chrls1'lan Homes
Planner Miller referred Council to the draft of the Special Use
Permit, prepared by Attorney Lynden; reported that no additional
presentation Is proposed at tonight's meetIng; developers are
present to answer any questions.
It was noted that Council deferred action because of the concerns
of neighboring residents relative to traffic, density, devaluation
of surrounding properties, etc. Miller noted that comparisonS re
density were made based on 50 single-family homes vs. the proposed
retirement facility:
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September 12, 1977
about 175 people
about 275 people
- single-family homes
- apartments and nursing care units.
Miller noted that standards have not been established for this
type of facility.
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Traffic evaluation:
Single-family homes would generate more traffic on Pascal
and Wesley Avenues.
Retirement facility would generate more traffic on
Snelling Avenue and Old Highway 10.
Slngne-famlly homes traffic Is based on 8-10 tripS/day.
Retirement facility Is anticipated to be from 2-4 trips/day.
Peterson said that traffic generation depends on how available
public and private transportation Is to the facility: TCCH will
provide transportation for shopping etc., estimates 2 trips/day
per unit.
Miller noted that the streets that would serve TCCH traffic
(Snelling, Highway 10 and County Road E) are adequate to handle
this, and a great deal more, traffic: there Is no serious problem
In that respect.
Miller noted that the 50 homes (used In the comparison) would
be on re-platted lots, not existing plat: number could vary up-
ward for a PUD.
Miller noted that the nearest units, as proposed, would be about
1600' from Lake Valentine; within about 600-700 feet of some low
land, which mayor may not require an EAW (not determined>.
Miller reported that the question of devaluation of properties Is
primarily dependent on the quality of the apartment proposal and
how well the site can accommodate them: If treated correctly en-
vironmentally and aesthetically, It Is not necessarily true that
surrounding neighborhood values would be devaluated, or that
these surrounding properties would be also uti Ilzed for the higher
density use. Miller noted that proposed building Is about 150'
from the nearest residence; parking lot is about 200' from nearest
residence; wi i I look for screening and bermlng In these areas.
After discussion, Woodburn moved, seconded by Crichton, that Council
deny the Special Use Permit for the TCCH retirement center Planned
Development on the basis that:
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I. land Is now platted for single-family residences (R-Il.
2. No better use has been shown for this land.
3. Density Is considerably higher than that of single-
family home development.
4. Proposed .ratl rement fac III ty Is essent I a II y an apartment
project (units sold as apartments) sponsored by a non-
profit organization.
In discussion Hanson noted that Councl i had approved a Special Use
Permit for TCCH about two years ago; feels Council Is morally obli-
gated to continue the Initial Special Use Permit which was granted.
Crichton said he did not see some of the short-comings at time of
the Initial proposal.
Woodburn said that the density of the Presbyterian Homes Geriatric
facility In an R-I zone, and the Impact that the Northwestern College
Fine Arts facility proposal had In an R-I zone are examples of
problems which are similar to those problems he envisions ~hls
proposal could create.
Crichton noted that the Impact of Presbyterian Homes and North-
western College on the neighborhood could have been greatly reduced
If a wider buffer strip were provided; did not see this impact
when considering the Inltla.! Special Use Permit for TeCH.
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Howard Kern, 1400 West County Road E, said the City should feel
no moral responsIbility to TCCH; It was only after many assurances
and much reservation that they received even a passive response
from the community on the Initial proposal; after obtaining that
Special Use Permit they did not follow through; a different build-
ing Is proposed now. Kern said, If a poll were taken of Arden
Hills residents, he feels that less than II would want an apart-
ment next to them; apartments are not comparable to our existing
homes.
It was noted that this TCCH proposal Is lower In height but closer
to the residential area than the previous proposal.
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Architect Winsor said that only two stories 8"1" the end of the
building will be visible to residential; traffic within the grounds
wi II be peaceful - older people as contrasted to that of younger
drl vers.
Woodburn noted that the reason the first Special Use Permit was
not used was because the deveioper could not find proper financing.
Peterson said the nature of the facility has not changed; financing
of the project has changed - are now aiming at a middle-upper
Income group, rather than subsidized housing; "fee1 we have made
Improvements In the site plan - moved buildings to the west and
lowered them two stories; will provide screening to the residential
area to the south; other directions are primarily naturally screened.
TCCH Is not In the single-family home business; wants to provide
a housing facility for the elderly prior to their need for a nursing
home. Peterson referred Council to former Council Meeting Minutes
which Implied that If a similar proposal were presented, Council
saw no reason why It wouldn't be approved; density Is not Increased
over the last proposal.
Mrs. Stoutenberg, said the property Is zoned residential; would
like to see It kept that way.
Hanson advised that the Zoning Ordinance lists alternative land
uses which are permitted in R-I zones with a Special Use Permit.
Mr. Stoutenberg noted that when the project was formerly approved
by Council, a petition opposing the project had been presented;
another petition was presented against this proposal; apparently
this petition carried more weight.
Mayor Crepeau advised that the Council does pay attention to
petitions; we accept and consider all petitions.
Larry Peterson stated that at the last Public Hearing (held before
the Planning Commission) many residents immediately adjacent to
the sIte supported this proposal; the ordinance provides for develop-
ments of alternative housing - thIs Is a residential development.
The motion carried unanimously.
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Case No. 77-40. Front Setback Variance for Garage Addition - 1840
Venus Avenue. Clifford Anderson
Planner Miller referred Council to his report of 8/30/77 and ex-
plained that the app~lcant Is proposing to convert the existing
garage to laundry and living space and construct a new garage In
front of the existing garage, requiring a 7' front setback variance;
reason for modifying Is to provide laundry facilities on the main
floor for medical reasons.
Miller explained construction options which could be considered. An
addition to the rear would require either a sldeyard setback or an
off-set of the new wall; el"l"her would De less desirable to the
applicant than the proposed construction; '~he front encroachment,
as proposed, would not In his opinion adversely affect the appear-
ance of the neighborhood; not convinced thore is a genuine hard-
ship to the lot.
Miller reported that the Board of Appeals and Planning Commission
recommend Council approval, and 12 neighbors have endorsed the plan.
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Hanson said that strict interpretation of the ordinance dictates
denial, but moved that Council grant approval of the 7' front
setback variance because of the handicap Involved. Motion was
seconded by Woodburn.
in discussion, Crichton referred Council to the options noted by
the Planner. Mr. Anderson advised that the reason the house
Is located as it Is is because the area on the left was used by
the Village for drainage; therefore, builder considered it to be
unfit to build on, when house was constructed.
Motion carried (Hanson, Woodburn, Crepeau ~otlng in favor of the
motion; Crichton voting in opposition).
Case No. 77-31. Preliminary Plat of Valentine Lake View No.3
Planner Miller reported that the Planning Commission continued
the Public Hearing over a couple month's time because of the prob-
lems of the site:
a)Two steep slopes with low land In between; concern was
primarily of drainage.
b) Availability of sanitary sewer service for some lots.
c) Nearness of the freeway.
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Miller referred Council to his report of 8/30/77 which outlines
his findings after preparing a grading study for the site based
on information provided by the applicant, his surveyor, and Rice
Creek Watershed District.
Miller reported that Rice Creek Watershed District has granted
approval of the most current plans; developer Is allowed to fil I
to accommodate home sites and access, but the low meadow area Is
not to be completely filled. Miller reported that the City
Engineer Indicates no problems If filling Is kept to a minimum as
proposed; recommends that existing storm sewer be extended to
the southern edge of the cui-dc-sac; existing sewer line elevation
will require pumping. Mi Iler reported that District Highway
Engineer advises of no legislation to prevent residential construc-
tion along freeways; new homes will not be considered for estab-
lishing the need for future sound abatement programs.
In revi,ew of the plat design, Miller noted that the plat consists
of 4 lots and an Outlot; outlot to be consolidated with lot I,
blk. 2, Valentine Lake View. Miller noted that Lot I is sub-
standard (110' deep and 13,200 sq. ft. In area); adjustments to
bring It up to standard would not Improve the buildIng site on
Lot I, and would limit the building area of Lot 4.
After review of the plat and discussion, Woodburn moved, seconded
by Hanson, that Council approve the Preliminary Plat of Valentine
Lake View No.3 with the following contingencies:
Approval of final grading pian by City Engineer.
Development can be accomplished with minimal grading.
filling and tree removal.
Building elevations can be established adequately above
the low land of the site.
The existing drainage outlet will prevent pondlng on
the site. '
Construction of homes wi II not adversely affect drainage
of adjacent properties; swales be required to direct
drainage from yards around the proposed houses.
Culverts are provided for driveways on lots 2 and 3.
A catch basin Is provided to direct water from the
cul-de-sac.
Approval of sewer lifts by the City Engineer.
Buyers are Informed that these lots will not be con-
sidered for noise abatement programs.
Consolidation of Outlot A with Lot to north (Lot I, Blk.
2, Valentine Lake View).
Council expects no variances for houses on these lots.
SUDdlvlsl~n Is subject to park dedication.
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Motion carried unamlmously.
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it was noted that Council approves the varianc~for Lot I, which
,Is substandard In depth and area, and It Is understood that any
required sanitary sewer Hlfts are to be owned by the property
owners, not the City.
Case No. 77-27. BulldlnQ HelQht Variance - Mutual Service Office
BulldlnQ
Planner Mi! lar reported that the Planning Commission determined
that the best way to consider a height variance for the proposed
Mutual Service building is to tie It to an elevation because of
the undulating land: difficult to determine height from grade
for the various building elevations. '
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Miller noted that the Planning Commission considered the impact
of the building on the adjacent developments and recommends
Council approval of a building height variance for the Mutual
Service Office Bul idlng; elevation not to exceed 963' at top of
roof deck with a maximum 30" parapet above the roof deck, and a
maximum elevation of 973' at top of elevator penthouse; penthouse
not to exceed 20% of main ,area of roof. '
Tom Lynch (Wlnsor/Faricy Architects) described the proposed
building elevations - at main entrance (north side) at 924';
roof deck at 963': top of penthouse at 973'. South elevation
cafeteria entrance at 898' elevation.
in discussion, Miller noted that variances can be granted beCause
of hardship arising because of speCial conditions applying to the
structure or land in question. It was noted that Ord. 99 also
permits bulldlngsthat exceed the height limits Imposed by provisions
of the ordinance, by Special Use Permit (Sec IV, Q. Floor Area
Ratiosl.
Lynch noted that the building covers about 'i acres of the 54
total acres (40 acres 'f park and residential are excluded):
proposed building wi I I be located approximately 500' from resl,den-
tlal to the west, 600' from residential to the east and 900' from
residential to the south.
After discussion, Hanson moved, seconded by Woodburn, that Council
approve building height variances as recommended by the Planning
Commission (Minutes of September 6, 1977), subject to the additional
contingencies that building entrance, at cafeteria, to be at a
maximum 895' elevation and that pen+house not exceed 12% of main
area of roof (Instead of 20% as recommended by the Planning Commis-
sion). Refer to eievatlons on section drawings dated 9/12/77.
Motion carried unanimously.
Case No. 77-43. Variance from Ordinance 147 - Detached Garage,
Jerry Beltz CArden Manor)
Planner Miller referred Council to his report of 8/31/77 and to
the Planning Comm1sslon recommendations (Minutes of Sept. 6th);
suggested that anamehdment to the Spacial Use Permit for Arden
Manor Is probably necessary, rather than a variance from Ordinance
No. 147.
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After discussion, Woodburn moved. seconded by Hanson, that Council
deny the request for a varIance for a detached garage on the basis
that garages are not permitted by the Special Uso Permit granted
for Arden Manor, and would create a more crowded situation than is
envisioned for the area. Motion carried unanimously.
REPORT OF VILLAGE BUILDING INSPECTOR LARRY SQUIRES
Recommendation re SIQn Permits and Licenses for Governmental AQencles~
Public Schools and Churches
Squires referred Council ~to his memo of August 17th and noted that It
has been Village policy to not require licenses for the County beach
signs (Tony Schmidt Park), publIc schools, and churches.
After discussion, Crichton moved seconded by Hanson, that Council
authorize waiver of fees for governmental agencies, provIded Attorney
Lynden determines It Is permissible to do so. Motion carried unani-
mOlJsly.
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It Is Council's understanding thaT Permits and Licenses for these
signs will be required and thaT governmental agencies Includes
public but not private schools.
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H.R.A. Basic Grant Program
Squires referred Council TO his memo of 9/2/77 and noted That
$3630.00 In rehabilitation grant funds have been reserved for
Arden Hills residents. Money Is to be used for repairs to
dwellings within the Village; a number of forms must be completed
to determine eligibility of applicants, one of which Is that the
adjusted gross income of all members of the household must be
$5000 or less. Squires reported that a Grant Committee of at
least 3 persons (Council, Staff, Cltizenl should be appointed to
review applications and decide who shall receive the grant money.
Squires noted that priority must be given to those re energy
saving repairs and,to The handicapped.
Council deferred appointment of the Grant Committee until the
September 19th meeting; will accept nominations until that time.
REPORT OF VILLAGE TREASURER DONALD LAMB
Investments
lamb reported that two CDs matured on September 1st In the amount
of $111,511.09, and on September 8th in the amount of $150,000.00;
Invested $100,000 In 30 day CD @ 5.7% Interest; balance, Including
Interest, was deposited In Savings accounts.
Crichton moved, seconded by Hanson, that Council ratify the Invest-
ments as reported by Treasurer lamb. Motion carried unanimOUSly.
OTHER BUSINESS
Finance Committee
A. Report of August 18th
Hanson referred Council to cost comparison for 1978
Arden Hills Police Department vs. Ramsey County Sheriff
Department, August 18, 1977; indicating an apparent
savings of about $53,000 to the Village If services are
contrected.
CrlchtoP.~r~~~jed ~R~~ a cost comparison based
on hls~1978 I the Arden HilUs Police
Department which would employ five officers and a chief,
no overt~~~A~~ part-time officers. His comparison
Indicete~'~~~Y~ of about $4,200 If services are con-
tracted. NOTE: Finance Commltte~ comparison was based
on PrOposed 1978 Budget empioYl'ng six men and a chief,
overtime and some part-time officers.
After discussion, cost comparisons were referred to the
Finance Committee and Council for review and discussion
at the Joint September 22nd Meeting; matter was also
referred to Lt. McCall to review Crichton's revised Police
Dept. budQet figures for consideration at that meeting
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B. Sewer Rate Study Committee
Hanson referred Council to the approximate $40,000
estimated rate Increase for Arden Hills by the Metro-
politan Sewer Commission; suggested that sewer rates be
re-studied between now and the end of the year; suggested
that Gray Henderson be requested )'0 work with the City
relative to a possible need for a sewer rate Increase
next year. Council concurred that Henderson be requested
to work with the committee on this matter.
It was noted that there may also be an Increase In water
rates from St. Paul; should also Investigate this possi-
bility re adequacy of Clty's current wllterrates.
C. Recommended Use of Federal Revenue Sharing
Council was referred to a Notice of Public Hearing on
~he Uses of Federal Revenue Sharing and the 1978 General
Fund Budget.
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Council concUrred with the proposed Ilst,of uses for
publication In the Notice of Public Hearing; list Is
subject to change after hearing Is held.
Status Report - Park Dedications
Crichton reported no progress to date.
Floral Park Site improvement - lnfleid Material and Asphalt
for Hard Court Area
Crichton moved, s~onded by Woodburn, that Council authorize
the purchase of Infield material and asphalt for the hard court
area as requested. Motion carried unanimously.
REPORT OF VILLAGE CLERK ADMINiSTRATOR CHARLOTTE MCNIESH
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Group insurance Contract
McNlesh referred Council to her memo re Group Insurance Contract
Renewal (8/26/77); noted that rate increase of 10% will be effec-
tive October 1st.
Council concurred that contract be continued; matter to be referred
to Finance Committee for review next year.
Schedule Open House - Sponsored by League of Women Voters
Council scheduled the Open House at 8:00 p.m. at the Village Hall
on October 27, 1977.
Caron Letter Re Seniority
Council referred matter to Crichton to discuss with Union Repre-
sentat I ve.
Salary Review - Lt. DouQlas McCall
Woodburn moved, seconded by Hanson, that Counci I approve an Increase
in salary of $175/month, retroactive for periOd In position of
Acting Chief; salary Increase to be applicable onHy while In the
capacity of Acting Chief. Motion carried unanimously.
Parks and Recreation Committee Resignation
Crichton moved, seconded by Hanson, that Council accept the resig-
nation of Ronald Lemke from the Parks and Recreation Committee.
Motion carried unanimously.
It was noted that the following Committees are short members for
the balance of 1977:
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Human RI ghts - 2
Pub II c Safety - 2
Parks and Recreation _ I
Policy Re Sauad Cars
Crichton reported that members of the Public Safety Committee
have requested Council to reconsider Its policy to not allow
riders In the squad cars.
Crichton moved, seconded by Woodburn, that Council authorize mem-
bers of the Public Safety Committee to ride In squad cars on occasion.
Motion did not carry (Crichton voting In favor of the motion;
Woodburn, Hanson, Crepeau voting In opposition.>.
MTC Routes
Woodburn noted that MTC Route '~8 fell short of anticipated rider-
ship; are expecting to "pull back" on other routes as well.
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McNlesh was requested to look up Council's former motion re the
MTC route-; th rough Arden Hills.
Adjournment
Crichton moved, seconded by Woodburn, that the meeting adjourn
at 12: 10 a.m.
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CllarloTte McN esh
Clerk Administrator
Notice of MeetlnQ
The next Council Meeting wll I be held at 7:30 p.m. on September 19,
1977 at the Village Hall.
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