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MiNUTES OF REGULAR COUNCIL MEET1NG
Village of Arden Hills
Tuesday, October 12, 1976 - 7:30 p.m.
Vi j lage Hall
Ca II to Order
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, Mayor Crepeau called the
meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
Roll Ca II
Present - Mayor Henry J. Crepeau, Jr. , Counc II men James Wingert,
Charles Crichton, Robert Woodburn.
Absent - None.
Also Present - Treasurer Donald Lamb, Engineer Donald Christoffersen,
Clerk Administrator Charlotte McNiesh, Deputy Clerk Dorothy
Zehm.
. Approval of Minutes
Wingert moved, seconded by Woodburn, that the Minutes of the Regular
Counc II Meeting of September 27, 1976, be approved as amended. Motion
carried unanimously.
Wingert moved, seconded by Crepeau, that the Minutes of the Special
Counc II Meeting of September 28, 1976, be approved as presented.
Motion carried unanimously.
BUSINESS FROM THE FLOOR
Lexington Avenue Recommendations, Ramsey County Environmental and
En Ineerln Committee - Commlssicner Donald Salverda
Commissioner Salverda District 2 Chairman of the Environmental and
Engineering Committee (a 21 member advisory Committee) Introduced
. County Engineer Deane Anklan and Transportation Subcommittee Chairman
Mike Martllla<
Martllla reported the following subcommittee actions:
I. Reviewed transportation polley of .Board of Commissioners.
2. Met with concerned citizens from Rosevllle.
3. Met with Rosevl I Ie citizens and Engineer Deane Anklan.
4. Presented alternatives from the County staff.
5. Presented proposal to business men along Lexington Avenue,
possibly affected by the. improvement.
6. Met wiTh Shorevlew, Arden Hills and Rosevlilo citizens.
7. Prepa red conclusions and recommendations.
8. Reported findings to the Committee.
Anklan noted alternatives to be determined:
I. Do nothing.
2. Rebuild road at Its present design.
3. Build 4-lane divided road.
4. Build 4-lane, not divided.
5. Bu! ld a 4-lane combination of divided and not divided.
Anklan described the proposed road Improvement, as recommended by the
Committee as follows:
I. County Road 0 to 500' north of Harriet Avenue - 4 lanes, undivided.
2. From 500' north of Harriet to about Victoria - 4 lanes with
left-turn lanes (protected and unprotected) .
. 3. Victoria to Highway 96 - 4 lanes, undivided.
Marti Ila described Lexington as a major col lector or arterial street
(a long distance mover), serving at least 8000 vehicles/day (more than
th Is In southern portion).
Martilla said the sub-committee was comprised of I Sf. Pau I, I Shore-
view, I Rosevllle and 2 White Bear residents.
Wingert asked I f Resolutions submitted by Shorevlew and Arden Hili s
had been considered by the Committee. Martllla said they are Included
In the Committee's report.
Slides were shown depicting the road as It now exists, with orange
cones placed along the right-of-way to Indicate the delineation of
the 4-lane roadway proposed by the Committee.
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in discussion, Woodburn asked what would happen to house at northwest
corner of County Road 01 Anklan said It could possibly stay, but It
might be deemed more desirable to move It.
Crichton noted that the proposed roadway veers to the we s t , . north of
Victoria, cutting Into a portion of Cummings Park property; area
would require tremendous amount of fill; suggested plan for roadway be
re-aligned to fol low existing roadway.
Ma rt I I I a said that Lexington Is a major co! lector street, the 32' width
recommended by Shoreview and Arden Hills Is not sufficient in the Com-
mittee's estimation. People will continue to use the street, whether
. It Is Improved or not; more hazardous as It Is - not adequate shoulders.
He suggested that a 4-lane road, not striped, would be acceptable, per-
haps; drivers usually use this type of roadway as a single lane each
way, except during rush hour traffic.
Wingert acknowledged that there is some urgency to decide, but sugges-
ted that a roadway bul It to dlfferent~andards than presented would sti II
qualify for turn -back funds.
In discussion of speed, it was noted that proposed road Improvement is
designed for 40 mph traffic. Anklan explained that unwarranted traff i c
controls generally Increase traffic problems - County does not establish
speed limBs; speed limits are based on what G5) of dr Ivers drive
(international situation); signs establish controls for policing area,
but do not control the speed.
It was noted by Anklan that the County has experienced that roads
(eg. Falrvlew, north from County Road BJ, widened to 4 lanes as pro-
posed for Lexington, has actually reduced speeds since the i mprove-
ment.
Salverda said that the area from County Road 0 to E Is the crucial
section; beyond thaT Is different funding. Anklan sa I d they will
proceed with plan for the south of 0 (In Rosevll ieJ, regard less of
the decision north of County Road D. Rosevllle has given conceptual
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approval and authorized preparation of plans and specifications which
will lead to a publiC hearing. Anklan said the County must have con-
cept approval before preparing plans and specifications for section
through Arden Hllls/Shorevlew.
Wingert noted that the local reaction (0 to E) to concept I s extreme I y
negat i ve . Anklan said the County wants everyone to be aware; If Improve-
men~ Is not desired, It won't be done. it wi 11 have to be done later
with local funding, I f turn-back money Is not utilized.
Wingert said he I s leery about approving expenditure for plans and
specs, knowing there is a high resistance to the Improvement proposal;
primarily opposed.
Anklan noted that mass transit also requires on-street space for pu II -
off for buses; narrower road cannot provide for this.
. C.r.i ch ton moved, seconded by Crepeau, that Counc II give concept approval
of plans from Harriet to Highway 96, provided that the County give con-
sideration to cliff on west side of Lexington at Victoria; suggest
County re-examine Shorevlew and Arden Hills resolutions re The area
between County Road 0 to Harriet before proceeding with plans and speci-
fications. Motion carried (CriChton, Crepeau, Wingert voting In favor
of the motion; Woodburn voting In oppos I t I on) .
REPORT OF ViLLAGE ENGINEER DONALD CHRISTOFFERSEN
Bids - Little Crow Addition improvement
Chrl stoffersen referred Council to the three bids received, a I! of
which exceed his bid eSTimate; suggested that property owners be con-
tacted to see If they des I re Counc i I to proceed, pending Christoffer-
sen's check of the bid Items and written report at next meeting.
Counc i I concurred and requested McNlesh to contact property owners
re bids received for their determination.
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Pemtom North, First Addition - Street Acceptance
Christoffersen advised that repairs have been made as outlined In his
letter to Pemtom (9-13-76); recommends City acceptance at this time.
Woodburn moved, seconded by Wingert, that City Accept the street In
Pemtom Townhouse Villages North, First Addition. Motion carried
unan I mous I y.
(Christoffersen noted that warranty begins on date of City acceptance
of the street).
County Road f Emprovement
. Arden HI I Is/Shoravlew Agreement re County Road F Storm Piping
Chr I stoffersen referred Counc II to proposed Agreement, and attached
Drainage Boundary Map (Exhibit B), between Shorev I ew and Arden H I II s
re storm drain Improvement (County Road F Improvement a portIon of
Improvement P-SS-W-ST 75-1, S.A.D. 187 -I 0 I -0 I ) .
Christoffersen noted that ~ttached map conforms with the Rice Creek
Watershed Map, Indicating that approximately 65 acres wi II drain
from Shorevlew Into Arden Hills (45 acres, north of County Road F
# ~o ac res south of County Road F); 36 n pipe proposed will carry
Shorevlew flow and drain the intersection.
Crichton displayed a map of water areas, preparej by Rice Creek
Watershed about two years ago. Ch r I stoffersen s~id that Shorevlew
has not changed the direction of drainage i n rec~nt years and wll I
not a II ow additional run-off to occur beyond acr~age shown on the
map; Shorevlew wants assurance they can use the pipe I f they pay for
the I r share.
Christoffersen noted the following alternatives, as he sees It:
I. Bull d storm sewer for Arden Hills only.
2. Build storm sewer for Arden Hills and Shoreview.
3. Don't build storm sewer at all.
4. Build larger storm sewer now and pursue drainage agreement with
Shorevlew.
In discussion, It was noted that approval from property owners should
be obtained In order to Increase flow over property not owned by City.
It was noted that whether culvert runs under F 01" under Lexington,
length of easement across Reiling property is about the same.
Christoffersen recommended that some type of dra n be Installed at
the County Road F ILex I ngi"on Intersection; Shoraview has agreed to
the C.A. financing method; should know this week what size pipe to
Install.
After discussion re costs of various sized pipe fnstallatdJons, Wood- 1
burn moved, seconded by Wingert, that Counc i I authorize the Instal-
lation of the larger 36" pipe at Lexington and County Road F, as
indicated by Engineer; Arden Hil Is to proceed with an agreement with
Shorevlew In which they be Invited to participate In the cost of the
Installation per paragraph 4 of IEnglneerJs letter of 10/4/76 when
. downstream drainage to 1-694 is constructed, and to offer their part-
Icipation at that time on the C.A. basis on drainage between 1-694
and County Road F. Motion carried unanimously.
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lit was noted that pipe should belnstafled and ~nglneer
tinue working on an agreement with Shorevlew to resolve the downstream
drainage from County Road F to i -694; not nacessury to actually have
agreement signed before Installation of the plpe~)
~.S.P. Agreement and Reiling Easement that Counc II authorize execu-
Crichton moved, second$d by Wingert,
tlon of an Agreement with N.S.P. by the Clerk Administrator and Mayor,
subject to approval by the Sngineer and Attorney. Motion carried
unanimous Iy.
It was noted that several attempts have been mCldt) by the City to
contact Relll ng In an effort to obtain notarized signature on water
main easement. Counc II dlr~cted The Engineer TO not delay the project.
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Arden Manor Management Request re Banister Inspection of Sewer 1I n3S
Christoffersen reported that the Arden Manor contractor Is to start
work on the sewer lines this week; Dykema has requested Banister to
Inspect the work as It progresses. Chr I stoffersell said that Inspection
by Banister Is virtually Impossible for about two weeks; suggested that
a good contractor will know what has to be done to pass the specs re-
quirements (they have a copy of the specs.l; Banister would prefer
to only Inspect for Arden Hi I Is, after work has been completed (not
inspect our own Inspections).
Counc II concurred that Banister should not perform Inspections during
the corrective work at Arden Manor.
. REPORT OF PLANNING COMM1SSION
Case. .N.o_.__76-3.6_,_.~t,!n,~ar_cL.(}~'-c..~mpany - Bu II d-'.flJ1.I".erll!it.
Wingert referred Council to Minutes of the Planning Commission Meet-
ing ('0-5-76) and to plans submifitid for car wash addition to the east
end of the Standard 01 I Service Station, 1306 West CounTY Road E.
Wingert noted that the Planning Commission determined that the one-bay
cold water car wash proposed, is an accessory use, In its opinion, to
the service station primary use of the property; recommends Council
approva I of the BuildIng Permit.
Wingert moved, seconded by Crichton, that Counc II authorize the
Issuance of a Building Permit for the car wash adcltlon as per plans
submitted with Case No. 76 -36. Motion carried unenlmously.
(It was noted that Ordinance No. 132 (Service Station Ordinance) con-
flicts with Ord. 99 (Zoning Ordinance); 132 does not permit vehicle
wash and 99 does permit it as an accessory use.)
Case No. 76-33, Buzzell Builders - Subdivision
Wingert reported great opposition at the Public Hearing held by the
Planning Commission ( 10-5-76) to the proposed development of the a rea
(Tiller Lane, Hamllns Avenue and Ingerson Road); considers this to be
swamp land and If filled, even partIally, they felt would cause water
back-up Into basements of surrounding homes on I ngerson Road and
Dunlap Avenue.
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Wingert referred Councl I to the SubdIvision plans, as presented, pro-
posing six (6) building lots (4 on Ti II er Lane and two (2) on Ham II ne
Avenue) ; lots on Ingerson Road are already plattec lots and not part
of the subdivision request.
Wingert reported that he understands Buzzell Builders have withdrawn
their purchase contract, since the Public HearIng; do not Intend to.
pursue the subdivision proposed; consequently, no Counc I I action is
required at this time.
Wingert noted several req u I remen ts In the Subdivision Ordinance (No" 98l
regarding subdivisions Involving water courses, areas which are subject
to periodic flooding, contain extremely poor drainage facilities etc.
It ~as also noted that the Building Code requires that houses be bul It
on a so II d foundation; If soi I can't support a hou se, It Is Impossible
. to b u I I d on the site.
~ n discussion, It was suggested by Wingert that Council seek a solution
re swamp areas, recognize them as wet lands and storage areas for local
drainage; suggested that Council determIne what can be permitted In
these low areas, and possibly the CI~y acquire these areas.
Woodburn suggested that Engineer advise whether a holding pond could
be created In this area, also creating a buildable area on the tract;
ask Rice Creek Watershed to look at It also to see what It recommends
for pond and for building:
is pondlng feasible7 ~ s building feasible? I s filii ng feasible?
etc.
McNlesh was requested to ask Buzzel I to notify City, In wrltl ng, of his
determination to withdraw or pursue the subdivision.
Counc II deferred action pending receipt of Buzze Il'S decision to pursue
or wIthdraw his application for Subdivision.
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Case No. 76-34, Leslie Nordin - Variance for Location of Garage Prior
to Construction of Resl~ence on Floral Drive
Wingert referred Councl I to sketch of II-acre tract on which Nordin
requests to locate a storage garage. Wingert reviewed the Board of
Appeals (9-19-76) and Planner (10-1-76) reports and Planning Commission
Minutes of 10-5-76, and moved, seconded by Woodburn, that Council
approve the variance to locate the garage on the property, as shown
on the sketch submitted, prior to construction of the house, provided
that al I vehiCles (mobile home, corn planter etc.) be stored In the
garage, eliminating outdoor storage on the site, and that the garage
not be used as living quarters; variance approvai not to exceed twelve
(12) months and is subject to review at the end of that period. Motion
. carried unanimously.
Case No. 76-35, Minneapolis Hide and Tallow - Building Permit
Wingert reported that he and three Planning Commission members visited
the Mlnneapo! is Hide and Tallow site on Saturday, October 8th to see
the existing operation and locations of the proposed additions whiCh.
are proposed to improve air and water quality. Wingert described the
proposed construction and referred Councl I to plans submitted, reporting
that the Planning Commission considers that the construction proposed
Is not expanding the business, but to Improve air and water quality
(non-conforming In L-l zone.)
Council was referred to letter of 10-12-76 from Tlbor Kosas, Division
of Air Quality, and to letter of 10-8-76 from Donald R. Madore, Metro-
politan Waste Control Commission, and to Planning Commission's recommen-
dation (Minutes of 10-5-76).
After discussion, Wingert noted that the on-sight visit by the Planning
Commission was satisfactory, and moved, seconded by Crichton, that Coun-
cil approve issuance of the Building Permit pursuant to plans dated
10-5-76, with condition that construction plans be signed by registered
engineer. Motion carried unanimously.
In further discussion, Crichton asked what complications there might
be If lots on which Minneapolis Hide and Tallow buildings are located
were consolidated Into a single parcel; noted that buildings cover-
several platted lots, overlapping lot lines etc. Council expressed
concern when and If a portion of the property were sold, possibly with
a building on it, causing a non-conforming situation re set-back from
property lines. Wingert felt that only a minor purpose would be served
by a consolidation at this time; City would always have control as to
building occupancy and lot spilt at time of sale.
OTHER BUS iNESS
Case No. 76-37, Blue Fox Inn - Replacement Sign
Wingert reported that the Blue Fox Inn has requested approval of a
temporary slgn,d~rlng period of construction and approval of a 23'
high replacement sign.
Wingert advised that former sign, on the canopy pylo~ was 22' In height;
new proposed sign Is 23' high (Internally lighted), to be located 25'
... from LexIngton property line and 20' from Grey Fox Road property line.
After discussion, Wingert moved, seconded by Woodburn, that Council
approve a height variance of 6' (sign to be 22' In height) as shown on
the site plan; curb to be wrapped around base of standard; Including
sign In the landscaped area. Motion carried (Wingert, Woodburn, Crepeau
votIng In favor of fhe motion; Crichton VOTing in oppOSiTion'.
Wingert movad, seconded by Woodburn, that Council ~pprove business
Identification temporary sign until November 15, 1976. Motion carried
unanimously.
REPORT OF CLERK ADM IN I STRATOR CHARLOTTE MCN i ESH
Temporary Signs - St. Paul Book and Stationery
McNlesh referred two temporary sign applications from St. Paul Book
and Stationery to Council for approval; St. Paul Book Intends to use
one. of them during Its sale (Oct. 21 through Oct. 25). 't was noted
that one of the signs Is the one previously used by St. Paul Book
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(lighted sign on a roller wagon) - oTher alternative Is a I a rge r
12 I x 24 I un lighted sign, also on a roller wagon,
Wingert moved, seconded by Woodburn, that Counc II approve the use
of either sign during days of sa'e (Oct. 21st through Oct. 25th), on
the basis that sign Is moved Indoors after close of business In the
evening. Motion carried unanimouSly.
(it was noted that only one sign at a time should be used.)
Claims and Payrolls
Crichton moved, seconded by Wingert, th at Counc I I approve Claims and
Payrolls as presented. Motion carried unanimously.
Fa'l Program ! nstructors
. MCNlesh referred Council to memo from Buckley, requesting approval of
Instructors for the Fa II programs.
Crichton moved, seconded by Wingert, that Counc II approve the Instruc-
tors II S3.50/hr. as listed. Motion carried unanimously.
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Suburban Rate Authoritf Meeting Rate Authority meeting on October
McNlesh reminded Counc I of Suburban
20th. Wingert said he expects to attend; will report on meeting at next
Counc.11 meeting.
Precinct Boundaries
Crichton suggested changed Precinct boundaries for Councl I IS considera-
tion as follows:
Prec I net 2 - to remain as It Is - Soui-h of 500 Line RR and west of
Snelling.
Prec I nct I - North of 1-694 to Highway 96.
Precinct 3 - North of Highway 96.
Precinct 4 - South of U -694 to North of Soo Line RR.
Precinct 5 - South of Soo Ll ne RR and (last of Sne I it ng.
Special Counc I I Meeting
Wingert moved that Council schedule a S~ecial Count: I I Meeting on Mon-
day, October 18, 1976, at 7:30 p.m. to review Codification of Ordinances
and Proposed Zoning Ordinance. Motion ~as seconded by Crichton and
carried unanimously. Motion carried uncnimously.
Adjournment
Wingert moved, seconded by Crichton, that the meet'ng adjourn at 12:30
a.m. Motion carried unanimously.
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Charlotte cNlesh .
Clerk Administrator
NOTICE OF MEETiNG
The next Speci a-r-Counc I I Meeting wll i be held on Monday, October 18,
1976, at 7:30 p.m. at the Village Hail.
. The Next ~egular Council Meeting will be held on Monday, October 25,
1976, at 7:30 p.m. at the Village Hall.
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