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Minutes of Specli'd COIJnci I ~1eet'ng
Village of Arden Hills
Monday, August IB, 1980 - 7:30 p.m.
Vi II age Hall
Ca I I to Order
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, Mayor Crepeau called the meeting to
order at 7:30 p.m.
Roll Call
Present -
- Mayor Henry J. C,-epeau, Jr., Counci Imen Robert Woodburn, James
\~ i nger-r, Wa rd Han son
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Absent
- Councilman Charlie Crichton
.~;so Present - Engineer Donald Christoffersen, Fiscal Consultant Peter Popovich,
T,-easursl" Donald Lamb, Clerk Administrator Charlotte ~1cNiesh,
Dorothv Zohm
Business from the Floor
None.
PUBLIC HEARINGS - SPECIAL ASSESSt,lENTS
(See attached Minutes of Hearings)
Improvement No. 55-'ll-PST -78-4, rlcc I uno' 5 Fi rst Add it ic,n
\1oodburn moved, seconded by Wlngerf:tfi"af"COuncTr'adopf Resolution No. 80-41,
Resolution Adopting and Confirming Assessment Roli for Improven~nt No. 78-4, McClung's
First Addition, Motion carried unanimously.
Improvement No. SS-W-PST-78-6, V~rth Lake So~
Wingert moved, seconded by Hanson, that Council adopt Resolution No. 80-42,
Resolution Adopting and Confirming Assessment Roll for Improvement No. 78-6, Kerth
Lake South. /40tlon carried unanimously.
In~rovement No. SS-W-PST-78-3, Kerth Lake West
Hanson moved, seconded by Woodburn, that Council adopt Resolution No. 80-43,
Resolution Adopting and Confirming Assessment Roll for Improvement No. 78-3, Kerth
Lake West. Motion carried unanimously.
Improvement No. SS-'~-PST-79-1, f\rden Lake Knoll
Wingert moved, seconded by Hanson, that Council adopt Resolution No. 80-44,
Resolution Adopting and Confirming Assessment Roll for Improvement ~. 79-1, Arden
LClke Knoll. Motion carried unanimously.
Proposed f'''I)~ram ",ct!vlt!es - 1~\80 Fa!! Program
Hanson moved, seconded by WI ngel't, that CQunc i I approve the Parks and Recreat Ion
Department's Proposed !980 Fall Program Activities as i isted. Motion carried
unan i moll 'Cc I y.
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Case No. 80-34, Rezoninq from 1.2 to B-2, Schedule Publ Ie HearlnQ
Hingert moved, seconded by Woodburn, that Cou~il schedule a public hearing before
the Planning Commission on Wednesday, September 3rd, 1980 at 8:00 p,m. at the
Village Hall. Motion carried uranlmousiy.
Case No. 80-24, Variance for Gar'aQe - Thomas Carroll, 3131 N. LexinQton Avenue
Engineer Weltzln, Ramsey County Engineer, distributed a mamo from Paul Kirkwood
I-a sight lines at the northwest cOl'ner of Lexington Avenue and County Road D
<8/18/80l and described the retaining wall (2f' to 3' In height) to be constructed
on the County rlght-ot-way. Weltzin explained that the situation has been evacluated
by his office and no potential problem Is seen with a garage located es proposed
by the Carrol Is. Weltzln suggested that since the sight-I ine is difficult to ,
determine \~ith the house and hi I' there (!1c,use \~i II be removed and lot graded in
the next weak or two), a decision on the matter be deferred until after the house
and hi!ij are removed.
in discussion, other potential slgnt-line problems were noted, such as trees, ,:
shrubs, fences, parked cars,sncw pi les, etc., al I of which could Intarfere wlth
the line of slght.
Shirley Bamberry presented a petition to Council, signed by approximately 24 neighbors
<representing about 12 househo!cs) on County Road D and Shoreline Lane opposing
the proposed garage.
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Mr. Earl Morgan, presented a sl~~Ch of the re-aligned Lexington Avenu~ and County Road
o intersection, Indicating a sIght line and recommended sight line minImums and
stopping distances at 30 mph and 40 mph speeds; noted that his calculations Indicate
that a car traveling at SO mph will cover 300 feet In 4 se,conds (at 40 mph In 5.1
seconds>.
Tom laNasa said he studied the corner, appears to be no difference If a garage Is
there or not; feels the real problem is the retaining wall.
Mrs. ~oOrgan said one problem Is being removed and another problem Is b,.lng created
If garage is constructed.
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Resident on Shol-ellne suggested that Carrol Is consider enlarging their existing
garage and create a horseshoe drive and turn-around area.
Mrs. Carrol! said there Isn't sufficient space; problem is backing on'lo Lexington.
Weltzln explained that the proposed garage Is behind the sight line.
Mrs. Hardy asked why a garage Is needed; If a driveway to County Road 0 Is desired,
"I'lne, but does not see why a garage is necessary that wI i I hInder the sllfety for
the residents on COllnty Road 0 and Shoreline.
Mr. Cllrro! I said he does not feel that removal of his existing drive alld cons'tructlon
of a new garage as proposed, will be a sight line problem; currently, ClrS parked
. on his driveway could cause a hindrance; existing drive will have IS% grade; snow
piles at his ex~stlng drive will create a sight line problem; If driveway Is to
County Road 0, these situations wou~d be alleviated.
Mrs. B.timberry sa ld ther',. wi II be a high bank on County Roe.d D at thE' proposed
driveway and her property line - also a sight problem.
It was noted by Weltz'n that additional concreta will have to be removed from.the
oldstlnq Carroll driveway; about a 15% slope wIll result; similar sltu,~tlon to
that at the house next door to the north; County Is encouraging turn-arounds on
the Lexington Avenue properties where feasible; noted that the contractor has been
requasted to "hold off" on the drive pending Council's decision; wants to cooperate
with evaryone; September 15th is the project completion date; traffic en::1ineer
does not see a sight dIstance problem here.
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Hanson noted thai" City or'd i nance does not requ I re peop I e to have garages; persona I
needs are not a compel I Ing reason for granting a variance.
Carroll explained thllt his concern Is for sa"fety of his fElmlly and also for the
vaiue of his property; does not intend to create a parking lot out of what remains
of his front yard; is concerned that tha variance requestod, In order to construct
a garag'3 with safe access to County Road D. Is not going i'o result In a safety
problem fOl" others.
Mrs. Ca~roi I said '1'he propo~,a! is considered to be a ",.asc.nable solution to solve
il diiijgii~"'O\JS sitw~-;- ~cn.
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\~lng3rt said he Is comfortable \1lth the sight line, which does not appear to be
a probl,~m, but other thIngs should be considered; noted that Carrol Is have a
safety Goncern for their existing driveway which would be alleviated if access
can be ~rovlded to County Road D; would I fka to work with them and grant a
varlanc3; do not kno\1 if 32' variance Is roasonable. it \'16S noted that an alternate
proposal, suggested by the Planner, Is not possible unless the land acquired by
"~he CoUlty Is sold to Carrol Is.
\~oodbur:l agreed that there is no sight line problem, but has a problem with the
amount of variance; noted a val"lance of thi s magn l'tude ha,; not been granted before,
to hIs ,{nowledge.
Wingert said he feels there Is ground for some variance; would like to pursue some
manner of I-edUCing the varlcmcll.
Woodburn moved to not approve the variance requested; seconded by Wlnger't.
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~n discussion, Carroi!s were asked if they would opt to pursue the alternate
garage location If land can be purchased from the County. Mr. Carroll said he
would if it can be purchased at the appraised value.
Mrs. Bamberry said she would also want to know when property Is placed on the
market "for sa I e".
Hanson rnoved, seconded by Wingert, that Council table the matter until the August 25th
Council meeting at 7:30 p.m. Motion to table carried (Hanson, Wingert, Crepeau
voting in favor; Woodburn voting In opposition).
proposed SI~n Ordinance
in review of draft of Proposed SIgn Ordinance (received 7/14/80>, the following
changes were made:
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16. Sign, Height of:
Mi Iler to re-word re "freeway sign height"
which should relate to ground elevation.
A. ld. 2. Delete 2 - Polltlca~ SIgns.
(Lynden to determine If City can prohlbl-t
political signs; if so, delete.>
A. 3g. Add "not to exceed a height of ~ot above
building height".
A5.b Search lights - delete.
B. Add number 9. Search lights.
Change "Review and Approval" heading to
"~nltlal Review and Approval" and under
column headed "~Il umlnatlon", mange "Yes"
to "permitted" ilOd "no" to "not permitted".
8. e. Deiete "Political Signs" If Lynden
d<'l'tennines Ii" Is legal to do so.
Under "~llumlnatlon" heading, change "yes"
to "permitted" and "no" to "not'permitted".
Change "Review and Approval" heading to
"initIal Review and Approva~".
E. 5. Re-word sacond i ina as follows:
".... 'to the temporary area
Identification sign, "
C. 3. ~nsert dilapidated
~!.... is di:apidatad C~... a
public nuisance..."
Change "Pub! Ie Hearing" to "hearing",
If approved by Lynden.
Permit Fees - Deiets. Charge to be
established by Resolution, rather 'than
Include In the ordinance.
c. Delete numbers 2 and 3 In their
ent I re'ry.
c. Insert in third line "... the dimensional
requirements of thIs Ordinance" (instead
of "terms">.
Adjournment
Wingert moved, seconded by Hanson, that the meeting adjourn at 11:15 p.m.
Motion ';arrled unanImously.
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Charlotte McNiesh
Clark Administrator
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NOTiCE OF MEETING
The next Regular Council Meeting is scheduled for Monday, August 25 at
7:30 p.m. at the Vil!age Hall.