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MINUTES
CITY OF ARDEN HILLS, MINNESOTA
WORKSESSION CITY COUNCIL MEETING
SEPTEMBER 16, 1993
7:30 p.m. - CITY HALL
CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, Mayor Sather called to
order the Worksession City Council meeting at 7:40 p.m. Present:
Mayor Sather, councilmembers Paul Malone, Dennis Probst, and
Beverly Aplikowski. Also present was: City Administrator,
Dorothy Person and city Accountant Terry Post.
AGENDA ADOPTION
MOTION: Malone moved, seconded by Probst, to adopt the September
16, 1993 worksession agenda. Motion carried unanimously
(4-0) .
TCAAP update:
The City Council met in a worksession for discussion and review
of the TCAAP situation relating to possible land development for
a City Hall/Public Works facility.
Councilmember Probst updated the Council on the possible use of
TCAAP property as a proposed site for City Hall/Public Works
facility. Probst indicated that it has been quiet beyond the
meeting of several months ago with interested parties who met at
the TCAAP site. Probst has recently met with the Biathlon
Organization at their request, and they have written a letter of
support to share the use of open space. A State Patrol
representative was at the Biathlon Association who indicated
interest in use of the TCAAP land for a ski trail and shooting
range. Probst also indicated that the Army Office of Economic
Development which normally offers assistance to communities when
there are base closings, has been contacted for City
representation at their normal meeting with community officials.
Mike Fix has attempted to work with this in order to set
something up. However, Representative Vento has now been
attempting to schedule this meeting per Mike Fix.
Regarding what the next approach will be: Probst indicated that
he has a land drawn map (which was viewed by group). This map
identifies generally the areas of open space which is well over
50% of the area. The general areas along Hwy. 10 and Hwy. 96
show commercial development with a small area for the City Hall
and the County/city Public Works garage along the Hamline and
Hwy. 96 entrance area. Probst indicated that it seems the
preferred site for City Hall is still along Sunfish Lake, (along
the SE side of the lake). However, if that is not possible, the
second area for consideration may be to attach City Hall to the
PUblic Works garage area on the west side of Hamline. Probst
indicated that he would like to circulate this map to those who
attended the meeting at TCAAP several months ago and request
their feedback. Probst indicated that this map is consistent
with the City's thoughts going into that meeting and was
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surprisingly consistent with all of the groups attitude and
consensus at that meeting.
Tom Ryan with the National Guard has been contacted and their
group is needing a maintenance facility of their own. They wish
to move forward by early fall 1994 and expect to have the
appropriations by then to construct a maintenance facility. Ryan
has indicated that he is willing to act as a Federal contact for
the location of the Public Works facility. The Sunfish Lake area
is currently being protected, and seems to be a high priority for
the DNR to keep this land protected and to be inaccessible for
development.
There was discussion regarding the proper channels to pursue more
in depth discussions regarding the TCAAP land. There are several
areas where there may be advocates or assistance within the Army
itself. Vessey will be contacted, as well as Mr. Horner by Tom
Sather.
Terry Post will search out Ray Lunde, a possible contact, who
retired in May 1993. He was in charge of the Reserve Command for
the Midwestern region. Rod Sando at the DNR, it appears, does
have a major role in this area which includes communicating their
requests and needs. The State Patrol, MNDOT and PUblic Safety
Commissioners will be contacted by Tom Sather in order to
identify their needs. Probst proposed that the City schedule
public meetings inviting different groups of interested parties
and will issue press releases. He would also request further
letters of support from different agencies, especially state
agencies. These will be kept in a separate file for easy access.
The lease purchase method is still available per Mike Fix. The
Arden Hills' position identifies several needs: 1) an area for
City Hall/Public Works development with the County if possible;
2) Recreation facilities (which has been requested and pursued
since 1978). 3) access to the areas for the residents such as
trails through the Hamline Avenue excess point. 4) Development
along Hwy. 10 and HWy. 96.
other groups that support this involvement and may also like
access to the TCAAP property include: other recreation groups
such as: cross-country skiing and boy & girl scout troops. The
Council agreed that Arden Hills must stay in the lead role. The
release of this land it seems will be piece by piece since the
clearing is being done piece by piece. However, from all
reports, the City Hall/public Works facility needs are apparent.
Discussion also followed regarding joint efforts with others such
as the National Guard and Army Reserve. Some possible joint uses
with the Army Reserve were discussed which would include using
the area west of the Reserve building.
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Brooklyn Park did a similar action with what is believed to have
been with the National Guard by joining the city
Hall, the ice arena, National Guard areas for joint use.
A discussion followed regarding a proposal for the current site.
The current site if used for City Hall & Public Works creates
many problems such as side yard variances, or front and back yard
variances that may be needed in order to build on the current
site. It continues to be the belief of the Council that the
current site is insufficient especially if there is any growth
need in the future. When working out their building plans, the
city would like to be in compliance all city ordinances. The
Council agreed that the Round Lake area (previously known as the
Rendering site) would be acceptable as far as some areas of the
City Hall, however, space does not appear to be sufficient for
all of city Hall/Public Works especially considering the desire
of the County Public Works to be included. Accessibility to Hwy.
96 is an issue along with limited visibility of the land to
citizens. However, this is a second choice, and less desirable.
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Tom Sather will also contact Met Council in order to be in touch
with the Metro area planning agency. Press releases will be
developed by Denny and Dorothy.
Solicitation policy
It was advised that the Solicitation policy will be addressed at
another meeting later in the year since this activity will be
dramatically reduced in the colder weather.
Storm Water utility Appeal process:
The Administrator updated the Council that the appeal process
would be in order potentially for Alpo Food. The Engineering and
Administration staff contacted other cities who indicate that
they normally have very few appeals, possibly one to three per
year. The Council will normally review the information brought
in by the applicant with considerations given to whether or not
there is a runoff where they contribute to the storm water
system. In addition consideration will be given as to whether
it stays on the applicant's land. Alpo has questioned the city,
however, they have paid their Storm Water utility billing. Since
it is not a critical timing issue for tax purposes or for sending
to the County by the end of October, this issue will be set aside
for another worksession. The Council generally agreed that the
process proposed to date seems acceptable.
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Ramsey County Functional Consolidations (turnbacksl
The Council was updated by the Administrator that Ramsey County
has not been able to deviate very much from their level 90
turnback which is basically recycling. They do not deal with any
issues such as storm water, utilities, and other related issues
The Council agreed that County Road F in front of the
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high school is the highest priority for the City for turnbacks
and that County Road F between Lexington and Hamline is not a
priority road to the City. They do not want to spend City's
money on this project. The Council agreed that if the county
wishes to do additional work on it, it would not be at city
expense and that Council is not willing to trade a road for this
portion of County Road F.
The other areas identified by the County for potential turnback
could be pursued if there is additional funding from the county.
At this time the city is not agreeable to pursuing any further
turnbacks at the level the County wishes to turn it back. The
Administrator with the assistance of the Engineers will notify
the County of the Council's discussion.
Bobcat SDecifications:
The Administrator notified the Council that next week the staff
will be advertising for bids for a purchase of the Bobcat per the
1993 budget. Council had no objection.
1994 Union Neqotiations
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The Administrator advised the Council that a proposal from the
Local 49 has been received by the city. The Administrator
notified the Council that she would like to use a different labor
negotiator for the 1994 negotiations. This negotiator is Pam
Galanter from the Madden and Associates office. The Council
agreed to this change.
Sheriff's Contract City GrOUD
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The Administrator notified the Council that the Sheriff's group
is pursuing an option for a three year Federal grant for
additional staffing in order to pursue crime prevention with the
City matching 50% of funding. The first staffing position that
has been identified as having the greatest need is the "Power
Shift" which deals with higher crime areas such as the Rice
Street corridor through Vadnais Heights and Little Canada. The
Council indicated that they do not see any effect that this
position would have on Arden Hills and at this time are reluctant
to agree to any additional costs for this position to Arden
Hills. The Administrator also indicated that apparently there
has been for several years discussion about a crime prevention
officer. This may be included later in this grant. She indicated
that any expenses from this grant would be assumed by the city in
full after two to three years. The Council again was reluctant
to add any additional hours to the Arden Hills contract. Council
is interested in pursuing community policing within the
complement of deputies that we have. The Administrator will
pursue this further with the Contract group.
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ADJOURN
MOTION: Malone moved, seconded by Probst, to adjourn the
meeting at 9:05 p.m. Motion carried unanimously. (4-0).
Dorothy A. Person, City Administrator