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MINUTES
CITY OF ARDEN HILLS, MINNESOTA
WORKSESSION CITY COUNCIL MEETING
MAY 18, 1993
4:30 p.m. . CITY HALL
CALL TO ORDERIROLL CALL
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, Acting Mayor Hicks called to order the
Worksession City Council meeting at 4:37 p.m. Present: Acting Mayor Hicks,
Councilmembers Paul Malone, and Dennis Probst. Also present were: City
Administrator Dorothy Person; City Accountant Terry Post; Public Works
Superintendent Dan Winkel, Building Official David Kriesel, City Engineer Terry
Maurer, Garrett Lysiak, Bill Chapman and Recording Secretary Renee' Kaulfuss.
AGENDA ADOPTION
MOTION: Malone moved, seconded by Probst, to adopt the May 18, 1993
worksession agenda. Motion carried unanimously (3-0),
Councilmember Aplikowski arrived at 4:45 p,m,
Garrett Lvsiak - ReQuestinl! Appointment to Cable TV Commission
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Mr. Lysiak presented his resume to the Council and outlined his areas of expertise
relating to Cable TV. Mr. Lysiak reported on items of interest relating to the 1994
regulations, and area of responsibilities of the Cable Company as it relates to the City.
He is offering to be a technical consultant and assist David Sand in matters relating to
the Cable. The Mayor indicated Mr. Sand was open to this assistance. The staff will
bring this to the Council meeting as an appointment of Mr. Lysiak as a City volunteer
technical assistant on cable matters.
Mayor Tom Sather arrived at 5:05 pm and was updated on previous agenda items
discussed.
Update TCAAP Propertv
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Councilmember Probst informed the Council he met with Mike Fix from the
Department of the Army, Twin Cities Army Ammunition Plant on May 12 and the lines
of communications are back on track. Mike Fix had informed Mr. Probst that there
seemed to be misunderstandings on the City's intent of the Concept Plan and that some
felt the City had been very aggressive. Mr. Fix noted the Army is notifying the affected
tenants of the need to vacate and to demolish existing buildings. Probst commented the
next meeting is scheduled for May 27 with Mike Fix, Paul Kirkwold, Dorothy Person and
himself. The meeting will address the issues of immediate needs, Probst will provide an
update as to the progress of the City's original request from 1991-92 for an immediate
lease with future purchase or turnover of the property. Probst will also attempt to speak
with the new Colonel and advise the Colonel of the City's intents so no lines of
communication will be misconstrued,
Staff was directed to locate the Washington office address of Pat Schroeder to obtain
her legislation regarding Colorado turnback of Army land. It was commented that
Commissioner Sando originally agreed in principles to the motives and intent of the City.
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There has been comment of misunderstandings through the DNR. Probst was directed
to send a letter to Commissioner Sando to clear up any
misunderstandings relating to intent.
Review of Ramsev County Proposal of Road Turnbacks.
City Engineer Terry Maurer presented the preliminary proposal from Ramsey County
relating to the road tumbacks. Old Snelling would be seal coated and Lake Johanna
Blvd would have State Aid Improvements. Council agrees that Maurer research what
monies would be available for Stowe Avenue and County Road F for improvements.
Council discussed taking County Rd F (between Lexington and Hamline Avenue) and
take Lake Johanna Blvd and Old Snelling, Maurer suggests that Council direct him to
make a structural site visit at the bridge area over Snelling Avenue, This bridge area
was rated #56 in 1993. Council directed City Engineer to research what monies would
be available for improvements on County Road F which would include checking with the
Mounds View High School, (School District #621) and study the need for bridge work
over Snelling Avenue, and comparing to consider a north-south turn back.
Mr. Chapman requested that his concerns be heard relating to issues in the area being
addressed at this time. He referred to his letter of May 17 which was included in the
packets for this evening. Mr. Chapman states his work experience in the area of a
Planning Consultant and after researching the Old Snelling area, suggested that the
logical width for this area is 80 feet of right of way, He believes the area is currently too
wide and it should be reduced when the City receives it back. Mr. Chapman suggests to
leave the NE portion as is and don't touch the lower end of the area until the bridge
area is addressed.
Councilmember Hicks stated he would like to hear from affected residents. Hicks
comments issues that would need addressing include whether the land would be given
back to the residents or if it would be sold.
Councilmember Probst indicated a trail improvement option should be considered.
City Engineer Maurer agrees that a 80 foot ROW is sufficient for this area, but the area
would need to be checked for easements.
Council directed City Engineer Maurer to research the issues addressed above with the
City Planner and report back to Council at a later worksession. Mr. Chapman asked to
be included in the discussions.
Everest Group. Revised Concept Plan of Development of Gatewav Business District.
Tim Nelson, Bill Franke and Jeff Nielsen presented their proposal at this time. Mr.
Nelson presented an overview of the Concept Plan showing the vision of the "Corporate
Headquarters" preserving the best 12 acres for this location. The Plan is for a three (3)
story Corporate structure, underground parking with a mix of office and non office use.
There is approximately 70 acres with II acres for road ROW, 31.25 for open space,
leaving a net of 59 acres, The proposal uses brick and glass exterior and possibly
masonry block on backwall. Council indicated that a trail system possibly reaching
Long Lake Regional Park and/or Round Lake maybe a future consideration.
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A concerned was addressed by the Council relating to potential non permitted uses and
difficulty in controlling this. Council indicated that further discussion could be followed
up regarding such issues relating to the non permitted uses, He further commented that
there were many changes being requested and felt in certain areas the Plan was
requesting too many changes. Councilmember Probst stated the GBD criteria was
written on a larger scale with minimal details, Permitted uses are easier to deal with.
The Council discussed the availability of lakeside office sites and related limited truck
uses.
The Council discussed money in escrow up front to provide for the road and possibly a
bridge. Councilmember Malone stated that this area may be included in the TIF
District. Mr. Nelson stated he would like to see the development take place first, then
the land acquisition and public improvement and avoid putting the road in up front. Mr.
Nelson questioned whether the City would consider providing the water, sewer and
bridge.
A question was raised whether the Development Agreement could be sold to another
developer without the consent of both parties. Mr. Nelson stressed the importance of a
working relationship and trust factor between the developer and the City,
The Council concurred the Concept Plan overall is favorable and suggested that Mr.
Nelson and his staff draft a Development Agreement and present to staff in June with
Council review.
Zonlnl! Enforcement and Conslstencv Update
City Administrator Person requested direction from Council relating to Parking Permits.
Current staff has found many inconsistencies relating to the Parking Permit Request,
Special Use Permits, and Sign Permits.
Many parking requests have been brought to City Hall asking for permission to park for
a longer period of time than the six hour maximum, In the past, the parking permits
were authorized for different period of times and for various reasons.
Council directed staff to research the parking permit request with neighboring cities and
to verify their policies, if they in fact have parking permit policies. Councilmember
Hicks requested a "friendly living" approach to this issue.
In the interim, Council directed staff to set in place a 30 day procedure and present this
procedure to the Council.
It had been brought to the Administrator's attention that Ryder Transportation currently
has a nonconforming parking lot. A 1973 variance was denied, but the owner appears to
have expanded the parking lot. Various options were discussed including allowing a time
frame to comply limits set on expansion, but to clarify that the City intends to enforce
ordinances.
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The Business License and Signage for Arden Hills Nursery have been renewed for many
years, however, the Ordinance does not allow for this type of use on residential property.
The Administrator requested direction from Council on this issue. Council indicated
that the Administrator may allow for a reasonable time period to provide ordinance
compliance.
The Building Official Dave Kriesel indicated that tagging or ticketing of recreational
vehicles would be addressed over the next few months. Kriesel indicated he plans to
notify violators initially through an informational notice, through the local papers and
the City newsletter, followed by warning notices with enforcement as a last step. Council
agreed and concurred that this arrangement is acceptable to take place over the summer
with enforcement in early fall.
Administrator Comments: Administrator Person made note of a Town meeting
scheduled for May 22 at 7:30 am at Irondale High School. The meeting will be
conducted by Bruce Vento and the agenda will include a legislative wrap up,
Council Comments: Councihnember Aplikowski would like to address the issue of an
Economic Development Committee at the next Council Worksession.
Adjourn: Malone moved, seconded by Hicks to adjourn at 8:05, Motion carried. (5-0),
Dorothy A. Person, City Administrator