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MINUTES
CITY OF ARDEN HILLS, MINNESOTA
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
January 25, 1993
7:30 P.M. - City Hall
CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
Pursuant to due call and notice thereof, Mayor Sather called
to order the regular City Council meeting at 7:33 p.m.
Present: Mayor Thomas Sather; Councilmembers Beverly
Aplikowski, Dale Hicks, Paul Malone. Also present were:
City Engineer, Mark Graham; Parks Director, John Buckley;
Public Works Superintendent, Dan Winkel; City Accountant,
Terry Post; Deputy Clerk/Zoning Administrator, catherine
Iago; Recording Secretary, Shar Foster.
ADOPT AGENDA
Note was made that Consent Agenda item "Approve List of
Claims/Payroll" should be revised to read "Approve List of
Payroll".
MOTION:
Hicks moved, seconded by Malone, to adopt the January
25, 1993 agenda with the revision noted above. Motion
carried unanimously (4-0),
APPROYAL OF COUNCIL MINUTES
MOTION:
Aplikowski moved, seconded by Malone, to approve the
minutes of the January 11, 1993 Regular Council Meeting
as prepared. Motion carried unanimously (4-0).
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOTION:
Hicks moved, seconded by Aplikowski, to approve the
Consent Calendar and authorize execution of all
necessary documents contained therein. Motion carried
unanimously (4-0).
a. Approve 1993 Liquor License Renewal - Great Lakes
Restaurant.
b. Approve 1993 Business Licenses.
c. Approve List of Payroll.
PUBL_IC COMMENTS
There were no public comments.
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UNFINISHED AND NEW BUSINESS
1993 PAVEME~~_~AINT~pANCE IMPROVEMENT:
RESOLUTION NO. 93-08 -
FEASIBILITY REPORT & PUBLIC HEARING
RE~9LUTION NO. 93-09 -
PLANS & SPECIFICATIONS
Within Council packets were copies of the Feasibility Report
on the 1993 Pavement Maintenance Project. City Engineer
Graham briefly summarized that the project consists of
bituminous overlay and seal coat improvement on a number of
City streets, based on ratings of the conditions of streets
City-wide. He added that in accordance with the City's
Assessment Manual, 50% of the bituminous overlay cost is
proposed to be assessed to abutting property owners, while
the City will pay the balance.
Graham recommended Council adoption of Resolution 93-08
receiving the feasibility report and ordering a public
hearing for March 8, 1993, and Resolution 93-09 ordering
plans and specifications.
Mayor Sather commented that Council has reviewed and
discussed this matter at length in Council worksessions.
MOTION:
Malone moved, seconded by Hicks, to adopt Resolution
93-08 Receiving The Feasibility Report And Ordering A
Public Hearing (March 8, 1993 at 7:30 p.m.) On The
Improvement In The Matter Of The 1993 Pavement
Maintenance Improvement. Motion carried unanimously
(4-0).
MOTION:
Malone moved, seconded by Aplikowski, to adopt
Resolution 93-09 Ordering Preparation of Plans And
Specifications In The Matter of The 1993 Pavement
Maintenance Improvements. Motion carried unanimously
(4-0).
REVIEW FEASIBILITY REPORT -
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There were 80 - 90 citizens present to hear and/or
participate in discussion regarding the closure of T.H,
51/0ld Snelling Avenue. Mayor Sather announced that there
was a register to be signed by anyone wishing to speak, and
speakers were asked to limit their comments to two minutes;
a few minutes was allowed for the register to circulate.
City Engineer Graham explained that he serves as the City
Engineer, and he and other representatives of the City met
with the State Department of Transportation (MnDOT) in
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November 1992 to discuss the matter of the closure of the
T.H. 51/01d Snelling Avenue intersection.
Graham reported that at the November meeting, there were
four options recognized with regard to the intersection:
Option 1 Do nothing, leaving the intersection closed
permanently.
Option 2 Create a frontage road and redesign the
intersection including traffic signalization.
Option 3 Create a frontage road along Snelling to Lydia,
(which would involve wetland issues and
participation by the City of Roseville).
Option 4 Widen/redesign County Road E bridge/intersection
Graham stated that tonight's meeting is the forum for
receiving input, then Council will determine what options
they wish to pursue, if any.
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Deputy Clerk Iago called names from the register in the
order they were listed. Following is a synopsis of each
speaker's comments/questions (not verbatim).
Tom Fabel. 1550 Edqewater Avenue - My concern is the unsafe
condition that existed prior to the closure of the
intersection and the many deaths which occurred at that
location. The death of a Mounds View High School student
was the final straw, after which I, my brother phil Fabel,
and some Mounds Views Senior High students drafted a letter
to the Attorney General pleading for review of the
intersection, stressing that if no action Were taken, there
could very likely be a case of negligence against the
government entity responsible for the intersection. The
Attorney General's office took steps which eventually
culminated in the closure of the intersection. I'm not sure
which options being considered might be acceptable, but I
oppose returning the intersection to its former situation as
it was intolerable from a safety standpoint. I believe the
City of Arden Hills would be liable if the intersection Were
returned to the former situation, and I am presenting a
letter to Council stating that position, as well as a
petition signed by 19 Rotary Club members supporting keeping
the intersection at least as safe as it is today.
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Tom Mulcahy, 3530 Siems Court - I believe that some time
ago, this intersection was changed from an "x" design to a
"right angles from both sides" design based on MnDOT's
recommendation that the "X" design was unsafe; however, what
MnDOT created has now been closed because it is now deemed
unsafe. I object to an influential person in the community
using their relationship with a person of power, such as the
situation with Tom Fabel and the Attorney General, because
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this does not provide Eor due process, Now the Council and
MnDOT are faced with an impossible situation because no
matter what takes place, it is likely that some lawyer may
accuse the City of negligence.
Linda Swanson, 1124 Ingerson Road - I thank the Council for
this open meeting as I have only heard about other meetings
on this subject after they have occurred. I'm opposed to
the options presented on the grounds that they are unsound.
To my knowledge, local police and fire departments have not
voiced their concerns for safety at this intersection. A
signalized intersection would be detrimental to the existing
neighborhood by creating more traffic, air pollution, and
noise pollution, in addition to being very costly. The only
reason which has been given to reopen the intersection is to
provide for more convenience, IE the intersection is
opened, noise barriers will be necessary.
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Tom Lynch, 3220 North Hamlin~ - I have lived within 800' oE
this intersection for 27 years and have dealt with this
issue many times in the past. Seven people have been killed
during those 27 years, even aEter realignment and the
installation of a traffic signal at Lydia/Snelling. The
speed limit of Snelling is the same as a freeway, which is
very inappropriate, in fact, the area is so dangerous that I
began avoiding the intersection beEore it was closed.
Phil Fabel, 34~? Glenarden Court - Since 1971, this is the
third time this matter has come up. No one should profess
to know more about the matter than MnDOT; MnDOT has made
their position clear by closing the intersection, and that
action should stand.
David Webster, 3529 Snelling - I have lived in the area for
15 years and witnessed tremendous growth in the area. Since
the intersection closure, the area seems much safer,
particularly for children. I was involved in an accident at
this intersection, and I understand the inconvenience posed
by the closure of the intersection, but I feel it is worth
the added safety.
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Todd Albertson, 1543 Glenhill Road - I moved to the area in
1963 and have witnessed many accidents at this intersection.
I represent the Arden Hills Three Association and all eight
people within the Association are opposed to the service
road option. I believe reopening the intersection would be
a fatal mistake.
Kay Reyerson, 3201 Ridgewood Road - I echo the comments of
earlier speakers and favor any measure that will make a
safer neighborhood. I am particularly concerned about the
frontage road option as I believe it would endanger wetland
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areas. I urge Council to keep the intersection closed and
not approve any major project.
Raminik ShahJ 1435 Bussard Court - I am opposed to permanent
closure of the intersection and don't think the number of
accidents experienced is atypical. I would support a
realigned intersection perhaps with traffic signalization.
It is impossible to close all intersections because there
have been accidents there.
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chuck Kelly, 1430 Lametti Lane - I represent a number of
families with regard to this matter who do not wish to
experience further deaths, thus support keeping the
intersection closed. (Using a overhead projector, Mr. Kelly
presented evidence, copies of which were in Council packets,
supporting his position.) According to the state's study of
semaphores, a traffic signal will actually increase the
frequency of severe accidents at this particular type of
intersection. Reopening the intersection may expose the
City to liability should another serious accident occur. A
traffic signal will result in significant increase in noise
and air pollution. Daily traffic counts continually
increase on Highway 51. Ambulance and Fire Department
access has not been affected by the intersection closure
according to the City's Public Works Superintendent and
Health One Ambulance. According to Ramsey County Traffic
and MnDOT, there has been an insignificant increase in
traffic count on County Road E since closure of the
intersection. The petition requesting reopening of the
intersection does not reflect City-wide sentiment; a survey
or vote would be the only way of determine City-wide
opinion. A traffic signal at the intersection has been
considered before and rejected by MnDOT.
Joe Kahnke, 1541 Edqewater Avenue - The thing that is being
totally overlooked is the fact that our area is becoming
urbanized and we need to slow down traffic rather than cut
off traffic routes. The signal at Lydia/Snelling helps
somewhat, but a 55 mph speed limit is not appropriate for
T.H. 51/Snelling. I see nothing wrong with a signalized
intersection and believe it would be effective, but I also
believe many past accidents have been caused by speed rather
than roadway design. It is not reasonable that long-time
residents have their access cut off.
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Jean Lemberq, 1401 Skiles Lane - I support opening the
intersection in the safest way possible. I am frustrated
that the intersection was closed in a dubious manner. There
is no way to close all intersections where accidents have
occurred. If MnDOT is open to the option of full
signalization and approach warning lights, that should be a
safe way, I, too, am heartsick about past fatalities,
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however, some things mentioned during this evening's
discussion are not relevant. School buses did not use the
intersection for many years before its closure because they
identified the unsafe circumstances, but the School Board
has indicated buses would use a signalized intersection.
I've heard that a cost sharing arrangement between the City,
County, and State is a possibility. MnDOT is the expert in
this matter and they are not opposed to reopening the
intersection with a safer design,
Janeen Kaier, 1434 West Gounty Road E - Convenience alone is
not a valid reason to open the intersection. It should be
opened safely, not in its former design. It is council's
duty to the citizens of the City to consider reopening the
intersection in a safer design.
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John Swanson, 1468 Lametti Lane - I favor some sort of
access, but not a traffic signal. County Road E and other
alternate routes are inadequate to handle diverted traffic
load or pedestrian/bike traffic. Volume and speed of
traffic were the primary concerns surrounding the former
intersection. There is no method to reduce volume, only
divert it, however, we can try to reduce the speed on Old
Snelling/T.H. 51, then traffic controls could be added.
Georqe Morse, 1540 Edqewater Lane - I moved to this area
three years ago, and because of safety concerns, stopped
using the intersection even before it was closed. The
intersection should not be reopened in its former design and
a 1/2 million dollar cost to reopen it in a safe design is a
very high price to pay for convenience. The best option is
to do nothing other than perhaps try to reduce the speed.
Ray McGraw, 1427 Bussard Court - (Gave background as to the
creation of the Snelling/T.H. 51 and County Road E
intersections.) MnDOT closed the intersection without due
process moving the traffic to other routes. citizens have
been denied the right to a safe and convenient access and
emergency response time has been negatively impacted which
could result in deaths in other ways. Let's not make any
further mistakes, let's build a safe and sane intersection.
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Mary Miller, 35Q5 Glenarden Road - There is a problem with
emergency response time now that the intersection is closed.
Because of the closing of the T.H. 51/Snelling intersection,
we are forced to use alternate routes to access our
residences. Recently, I was caught in a traffic jam created
by an accident around one of the alternate routes which
would have made emergency response impossible if emergency
response would have been needed in my neighborhood. The
former intersection was dangerous, a redesigned intersection
is appropriate, simply closing an access is inappropriate.
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Brad Lemberq, 1401 Skiles Lane - I have many years
experience as a municipal engineer myself, and I resent the
manner in which this intersection was closed without due
process. The public should be aware that the signals which
are now at Lydia/Snelling were originally bid for the T.H.
51/Snelling intersection, but a decision was then made not
to install them at that location. In my opinion as a
traffic engineer, County Road E is a very poor alternate
route and traffic around Lake Johanna is unsafe. There is
no provision for pedestrian or bike traffic to cross. T.H.
51. Noise barrier walls along highways have proven to be
ineffective, Money is available through MSA funds to
improve the intersection. Right-of-way was originally
purchased for a diamond intersection and that is what should
be designed by a professional. We need a replacement.
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Paul ine,Haas, 142.0 West County Road E - r' ve heard rumor'
that the people on County Road E are pushing to reopen the
intersection, but as one of those residents, I want to
report that we want a safe intersection to service the
entire community. A vital artery has been closed without
due process and now there is additional safety concerns
along County Road E. For the whole community, we want an
intersection; if a signalized, redesigned intersection is
found to be a good alternative, let's do it.
Clifford Nimis, 1485 Glenhill Road - Accidents at the former
intersection were the result of speed on the roadway.
primarily, we need to reduce speed so there is less chance
of serious accidents.
Mayor Sather announced that Council has received a number of
pieces of correspondence and staff has also maintained a
list of resident phone calls expressing various positions on
this matter.
Councilmember Aplikowski stated that she shares the concern
regarding the speed of traffic on this roadway in addition
to the poor design of the intersection. She stated that she
would favor ordering a feasibility study to determine if a
new intersection with reduced speed is a viable possibility.
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Councilmember Malone recapped the background surrounding
this issue, and stated that the City left it to MnDOT's
discretion whether or not to close the intersection after
the last fatality. He added that options for reopening have
been considered, and although it is out of the question to
reopen the intersection in its former design, perhaps there
is a safer design for reopening the intersection. He said
that since this matter involves main roads, in the interest
of circulation of traffic, it would be prudent to examine
the options.
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Councilmember Hicks echoed the comments of Councilmembers
Aplikowski and Malone, stating that an improved design for
the reopening of the intersection needs to be investigated
thoroughly,
Mayor sather stated that if the only options were to open
the intersection in its former design or close it
permanently, he would definitely close it permanently. He
added that he is not convinced that any of the options
presented will be "safe havens", and although it may be
difficult to reduce speed, it is worth investigating that
possibility.
Sather said it appears that Council consensus is to review
the options for a redesigned intersection and keep the
intersection closed in the interim. He added that it would
be appropriate to report that position to MnDOT and send
MnDOT a copy of the minutes of this meeting.
MOTION:
Hicks moved, seconded by Aplikowski, to direct the City
Engineer to investigate all possible options for the
T.H. 51/Snelling intersection for Council consideration
at their February 22, 1993 regular meeting. Motion
carried unanimously (4-0).
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There was a comment from the floor that perhaps there are
interested citizens who would be willing to facilitate a
committee to discuss this matter with MnDOT. Mayor sather
responded that there could be a worksession to review that
matter after the City Engineer's report is reviewed. A
citizen suggested conducting any future meetings on this
subject at a location large enough to accommodate the number
of people likely to attend. Sather said staff could try to
make those arrangements.
Jean Lemberg said many informational meetings have taken
place on this issue, the options have been published for
months, now it is time to take action. Councilmember
Aplikowski stated that some kind of action will likely be
determined soon, but the public must keep in mind that
funding must be available for a redesigned intersection.
Mayor Sather asked the public to follow up by showing MnDOT
and the County the desires of the community. He stated that
an intersection improvement project could require the
pledging of many years' MSA funds.
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Sather clarified that, barring any unforeseen problems,
Council will be considering the City Engineer's findings at
their regular Council meeting on February 22, 1993 at 7:30
p.m., at a location to be announced (probably Mounds View or
Valentine Hills School).
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while the assembly departed, Council recessed and then
reconvened.
DRAFT STORM WATER UTILITY
City Engineer Graham explained that he has provided Council
with a sample ordinance relating to the establishment of a
surface storm water runoff management utility, a sample
resolution to establish policy on the operation of the
utility, and a sample resolution to establish utility rates.
Graham stated that the substance of the sample ordinance and
resolutions was largely provided by City Attorney Filla and
is very similar to what is in use by the City of Shoreview.
Graham suggested that conducting an informational meeting
would be appropriate before adopting the ordinance and
resolutions even though the matter is not expected to be
controversial. He commented that it is possible the utility
could be in place for the second utility billing quarter of
1993. He added that Council will need to consider how the
storm water utility would be administered to undeveloped and
underdeveloped property.
Consensus of Council was that staff should compile a
complete package of information and recommendations on this
matter to be considered at the next Council worksession.
MOTION:
Malone moved, seconded by Hicks. to accept the draft
storm water utility report. and to direct staff to
refine all details of the report and prepare
recommendations with regard to undeveloped and
underdeveloped property for Council consideration at
their February 16, 1993 worksession, Motion carried
unanimously (4-0).
RESOLUTION 93-07 - AWAIR BILL
Parks Director Buckley reported that Minnesota's
Occupational Safety and Health Act (OSHA), signed into law
in May 1973, requires all workplaces with 50 or fewer
employees to be in compliance by July 1, 1993. As part of
that compliance, he recommended the City:
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Review the AWAIR act (A Workplace Accident/Injury
Reduction Program).
Review the City Employee Safety and Health Policy,
Review the AWAIR indicators. and
Demonstrate direction and support by adopting
Resolution 93-07.
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Councilmember Malone asked if the budgeted amount of $7,250
is adequate to do all that is required to comply with law.
Buckley said he anticipates the budget is adequate for
compliance with both OSHA and AWAIR.
Public Works Superintendent Winkel commented that in past
years, steps have been taken and funds have been spent on
equipment, etc. in an effort to comply with OSHA standards.
MOTION:
Hicks moved, seconded by Malone, to adopt Resolution
No. 93-07 Recognizing The Need For Safety In The
Workplace Per The AWAIR Bill, Motion carried
unanimously (4-0).
COUNCIL COMMENTS
There were no Council comments.
ADJOURN
MOTION:
Malone moved, seconded by Aplikowski, to adjourn the
meeting at 9:42 p.m. Motion carried unanimously (4-0).
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NOTICE OF MEETINGS:
The next regular Council meeting will be held February 8, 1993 at
7:30 p.m. at City Hall.
The next Council worksession will be held Tuesday, February 16,
1993 at 4:30 p.m. (Monday, February 15 is President's Day
holiday).
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MINUTES OF THE ARDEN HILLS COUNCIL WORKSESSION MEETING
MONDAY, JANUARY 25, 1993, 5:00 P.M. - CITY HALL
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Thomas sather called the meeting to
order at 5:05 p.m.
ROLL CALL The roll being called the following members
were present: Mayor Thomas Sather,
councilmembers Dale Hicks, Paul Malone and Beverly Aplikowski.
Also present: Engineers Terry Maurer and Mark Graham, City
Accountant Terrence Post, Public Works Superintendent Dan Winkel,
Park Director John Buckley and Community Planning Coordinator
Catherine Iago.
ADOPT AGENDA
Malone moved, seconded by Hicks, to adopt the
Worksession Agenda as submitted. Motion
carried unanimously. (4-0)
1993 PAVEMENT
MANAGEMENT RPT,
Council was referred to the 1993 Pavement
Management report prepared by the City
Engineer.
Engineer Graham advised that all City streets were rated and
noted the estimated assessment rate is listed as $3.22!per front
foot. He explained this rate may be reduced if bids received for
the project are more favorable, and a reduced rate may allow
expansion of the proposed project by including more streets.
Councilmember Malone expressed surprise at the low ratings listed
for many streets and asked if staff had comparison figures from
the previous study. Engineer Maurer stated he would send a print
out of the street ratings for Council review.
staff noted the estimated project cost for the Bituminous Overlay
and Seal Cost projects is $123,700.00, which includes 15%
overhead to cover miscellaneous costs as listed in the report.
The Engineer indicated the estimated amount proposed for
assessment is 50%, as established by the adopted Assessment
Policy. He noted the remaining balance of 1993 budgeted funds
for pavement management would allow improvements to Keithson
Drive or other maintenance improvements as authorized by Council,
Councilmember Hicks noted some of the streets shown for
improvement are not extremely old, such as Briarknoll.
Engineer Graham advised he did not have information relating to
the age of the streets and ratings at this time and will forward
this information to Council.
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Council concurred that the 1993 Pavement
Management proposal is appropriate and
matter as part of the Regular Meeting
they will consider this
agenda.
AGENDA
REVISIONS
Mayor sather reviewed the Agenda and advised he
was working from previous worksession materials.
He noted the following Revisions:
DISCUSSION OF TIF PROPOSAL, JOHN ARKELL, THE COTTAGES. This
matter is postponed to the February Worksession Meeting.
EVEREST GROUP DISCUSSION OF ROUND LAKE DEVELOPMENT. This matter
to be discussed at 6:00 p.m. this evening.
ADMINISTRATOR REPORT. Postponed to the February Worksession
meeting,
STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND PROPOSED COUNTY ROAD TURNBACKS.
Engineer will briefly review this evening.
Council concurred with the agenda revisions,
Department
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Engineer Maurer reviewed his letter
dated 1/5/93, regarding meetings with
with Ramsey County Public Works
to discuss the effects on the City of the proposed
consolidation of roadways in Ramsey County.
DISCUSS PROPOSED
COUNTY ROAD TURNBACKS
Maurer advised the County would prefer to proceed with two
turnbacks immediately: Hamline Ave and County Road F turnback to
the County for a total of 1.48 miles. He noted that in exchange
for these two roadways, the County proposes the City take back
Old Snelling Avenue and some other segment (possibly Lake Johanna
Boulevard or County Road F)~'Maurer stated the County is also
proposing a one-time lump sum payment of approximately $8.00 per
square yard to cover the cost of overlay for the roadways.
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The Engineer noted that, with this proposal, the City would take
over 1,19 miles of County roads and 2.61 miles of State Aid
roads, for a total of 3.80; the County would take over 1.48 miles
of City roads, for a net gain in mileage for the City of 2.32
miles. He further noted one drawback to the proposal is that
Ramsey County cannot guarantee the roadways turned back to the
City will be included in the State Aid Program. Maurer also
explained Hamline Avenue and County Road F are in good condition
compared to the sections of roadway the County is proposing to
turn back to the City.
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ROADS (Cont'd)
Maurer stated there is some liberty to
negotiate for funds from the County in
to bring the County roads scheduled for
condition.
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amount appropriate
turnback into good
Council concurred to direct the Engineer to meet with Ramsey
County representatives and begin negotiations for the road
turnbacks and costs associated with upgrading the roads to an
acceptable quality.
There was discussion relating to possible costs for improvement
of Stowe Avenue by reconstruction and installation of utilities
in the roadway, The Engineer indicated costs relating to this
matter would be discussed with Ramsey County during negotiations.
Also discussed was responsibility for replacement or widening of
the Old Snelling Bridge and if the railroad would participate in
the costs.
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Mayor Sather related his discussion and
subsequent agreement with the City of
Shoreview relating to removal of snow from
Arden Hills sidewalks during the 1992-93 winter season. He
indicated the City may have a legal obligation to remove snow
from City sidewalks and questioned if staff had prepared a policy
statement relative to this issue,
SIDEWALK SNOW
REMOVAL POLICY
Public Works Superintendent Winkel and Parks Director Buckley
described the problems related to the removal of snow from City
sidewalks, based on lack of equipment and the retaining wall
obstruction along the Hamline Avenue sidewalk. Winkel indicated
he had contacted independent contractors to determine interest in
contracting for snow removal services; some indicated they had no
interest in providing this service.
Staff explained they did not have sufficient information to
discuss a policy at this time.
Council concurred to direct staff to research alternatives for
sidewalk snow removal for discussion at a future worksession
meeting.
RENTAL OF CITY
HALL FACILITY
Accountant Terry Post advised that several
requests have been received by staff for use
of the City Hall facility for meetings. He
explained staff has concerns relating to the inability to secure
administrative offices from the general public and establishing a
rental fee which would cover costs for an employee to open and
close the building.
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RENTAL (Cont'd) Post indicated that staff has briefly
discussed this matter and no policy has been
determined for submission to Council.
council concurred to direct staff to research rental of City Hall
and prepare a policy for Council review at a future meeting.
AMEND 1994 BUDGET
PROCEDURES
Accountant Terry Post outlined a process
whereby the 1994 budget would be discussed
in two stages; staff would begin working on
the budget assumptions earlier than in the past and would prepare
a five year capital equipment plan. He also stated staff would
address goals outlined in the Arden Hills 2000 Teambuilding
report and try to integrate them into early budget policy
discussion.
Post stated the procedures would direct early budget discussion
to capital expenditure and policy issues such that later budget
discussion would largely focus on operation items.
~ Council concurred they would prefer to discuss policy issues
surrounding capital equipment purchases earlier in the budget
process.
COUNCIL
COMMENTS
Councilmember Hicks questioned correspondence he
received from the Volunteers of America. He
explained they requested he forward a letter on
their behalf which outlines their activities, however, he is
unaware of any activities by this organization in the City.
staff offered to research the request and report to Hicks.
Councilmember Malone asked what other Councilmembers recall
regarding arrangements for the purchase of the City's backhoe.
He noted that although the minutes of earlier discussions are not
clear, he recalled that originally, the City had two tractors and
planned to sell the Massey Ferguson tractor and use a portion of
money from the budget (originally allocated for the purchase of a
bobcat) to purchase a backhoe.
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Public Works Superintendent Winkel recalled that originally there
were plans to purchase a bobcat and money budgeted to do so,
however, the opportunity to purchase a backhoe at a very good
price presented itself, so the backhoe was purchased using the
funds budgeted for a bobcat. He added that now if a decision
Were made to purchase a bobcat also, the only way to do so would
be to sell or trade in the Massey Ferguson tractor.
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Councilmember Hicks emphasized that when the
opportunity to purchase the backhoe arose, it was
a very good deal.
Councilmember Malone stated that his reason for raising this
issue is the fact that the City now has a John Deere tractor, a
Massey Ferguson tractor, and a backhoe, and he is concerned that
it appears the City's equipment inventory is "mushrooming".
Winkel commented that the only reason for possibly getting rid of
the Massey Ferguson would be to replace it with a bobcat which
would be a multi-functional piece of equipment.
Hicks said that in addition to the excellent opportunity to
purchase a backhoe, he recalled that at the time the decision was
made to purchase the backhoe, the City was faced with a major
repair cost for the Massey Ferguson tractor, so the Massey was to
be sold when the backhoe was purchased. Winkel did not recall
any repair concern surrounding the Massey at the time of
purchasing the backhoe, although he was aware the Massey had some
history of past repair costs and perhaps it had not been serviced
as well as it should have been.
Accountant Post recalled that the backhoe was not anticipated to
be purchased during the year, and if the backhoe had not come
into play, the Massey could have been sold to purchase a bobcat.
Winkel said his understanding was that money had originally been
set aside in the budget for the purchase of a bobcat without
having to sell the Massey Ferguson tractor.
Malone stated that if the original plan would have taken place,
the City would have ended up with two tractors and a bobcat,
however, the situation now is that budget money has been used and
the City still has two tractors, a backhoe. and no bobcat.
Winkel stated that certainly the Massey Ferguson could be sold or
traded in if a bobcat is purchased, and he would look into that
possibility.
Councilmember Aplikowski questioned if the City directs letters
of appreciation to Charitable Gambling organizations, such as the
Light Brigade for contributions made within the City.
Mayor Sather advised that Council, as a group, normally
acknowledges the Light Brigade as one organization which
contributes all of their donations within the City.
Council recessed for 15 minutes and reconvened at 6:10 p.m.
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Resident Jean Lemberg questioned if the
closing of Trunk Highway 51 would be
discussed at the worksession meeting. Mayor
Sather advised discussion of the closing
the regular Council meeting.
would be held at
Tim Nelson and Bill Franke or Everest Group,
and Rob Davidson, President of Nielsen &
Associates Realty, appeared before Council
to review a preliminary proposal for
development in the Gateway Business District, located at the
intersection of 1-694 and I-35W. They provided a summary of the
background of Everest Group and, using a slide presentation,
introduced Council to past projects which they have accomplished
or are presently involved in.
EVEREST GROUP
DISC ROUND LAKE
TIF DEVELOPMENT
With regard to a proposal for the Gateway Business District,
Nelson explained that Everest Group has reviewed the City's
zoning codes and envision some areas which must be worked out.
He added that Everest recognizes that the City designed their
zoning characteristics without a specific proposal in mind. The
City's current zoning characteristics which were of concern to
Everest were the requirement of at least 25% but no more than 50%
office space, and the requirement of no more than 75% warehouse.
Nelson explained Everest's overall idea is for a fairly intense
development to create a tax base for the City, create jobs, and
create a certain image at this key intersection. He added that
this can be accomplished through a specially designed plan for an
office/warehouse development, and Everest hopes to locate tenants
fot. i;hich they can "build to suit", with perhaps a corporate user
who would initially occupy a portion of the development and "grow
into" the entire development over time.
Nelson emphasized Everest's belief that an exclusive developer
should be involved in the overall planning effort for this
property. He added that Everest is interested in pursuing this
project and if chosen, they would expect substantial City and
citizen input as to how best to fit into the community.
Nelson pointed out some planning issues which would likely need
to be addressed, such as the nearby developing residential
neighborhood, the transmission tower, access and ownership. He
presented preliminary ideas as to possible site plans for the
development, and stated that landscaping and setback requirements
would require additional discussion,
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EVEREST Nelson added that Everest would propose
GROUP (Cont'd) significant City participation with Tax
Increment Financing (TIF) and would be interested
in exploring both the bond method and the "pay as you go" method,
He said another possibility Everest would consider is being
designated as the developer of the property without ownership
through a program with City assistance. He explained how some of
Everest's past development projects have been arranged in this
manner.
In summary, Nelson stated that key ingredients to Everest's
involvement would be flexibility in the City's planning
requirements, specifically openness to light industrial uses, and
a mix of uses (perhaps 35% office/65% warehouse/industrial). He
stated that if three necessary elements (coordinated mixed uses,
TIF, and designation as exclusive site developer) could be worked
out, Everest would be interested in further pursuing this
project. He added that the purpose of this evening's
presentation was simply conceptual in nature, and obviously mOre
worksessions would be required to work out details.
Mayor Sather advised that this meeting would need to adjourn very
shortly because the chambers need to be used for another meeting.
He asked Council if they had any general questions at this time.
councilmember Malone asked what would be the next step if the
City were to be open to the three necessary elements Nelson
identified. Nelson stated that the next step would be to review
with staff an outline of intended uses, nature and intensity of
development, etc., and then present a preliminary draft
development agreement for the City's consideration.
Malone asked if Everest Or the City would be expected to perform
road improvements. Brief discussion took place as to the fact
that road improvements, critical t.o support this development,
would be a typical function of TIF.
Councilmember Hicks stated that the flexibility of uses would not
be an issue from his standpoint, and it appears that TIF is a
possibility that can be worked out, but he would like a clearer
understanding as to what would be involved by designating a
"exc I us i ve devel opeL'" . There was bri ef di scussi on regarding what
"exclusive developership" might entail. Hicks stated that he is
supportive of continuing on to the next step, which is to further
discuss Everest's concept in more detail.
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EVEREST Note was made that this meeting was for discussion
GROUP (Cont'd) purposes only, and while Council has not given any
approval or made any commitment to Everest Group,
Council is inviting Everest to prepare further detailed
information for Council review.
ADJOURN
The worksession adjourned at 7:27 p.m.