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Minut.. of l.gul.r Council M..ting
Village of Ard.n Hills
Monday, Jun. 27, 1983 - 7:30 p...
Vill.g. H.ll
C.ll to Ord.r
Pur.u.nt to due call, .nd notic. th.reof, M.yor Woodburn c.ll.d
the ...ting to ord.r .t 7:30 p...
Roll Ca.ll
Pr...nt -
M.yor Rob.rt Woodburn, Counci1m.n Diane tiCAlli.tar,-Michael
Chri.tian..n, D.le Hick., Tho... Mulcahy
Ab.ent -
Non.
Also Pr.s.nt - Plann.r Orlyn Mill.r, Tr...ur.r Donald L..b, Clerk
Admini.trator Ch.rlott. HcNi.sh, D.puty Cl.rk
Dorothy Z.h.
Approval of Minut.s
Chri.Uan..n mov.d, s.cond.d by Hicks, thst the Minutes of the
R.gul.r Council Mee Ung of June 27th b. .pprov.d .. ...nded. Motion
,c.rri.d unani.ously. (5-0)
Busines. from the Floor
Non.
REPORT OF VILLAGE PLANNER OlLYN MILLER
Approval of Gr.ding Pl.n. and Adv.rti....nt for Bid. -
Cu..inlls P.rk
Hill.r r.ferr.d Council to the ...nd.d gr.ding pl.n for Cummings P.rk,
incorporating the conc.pt pl.n chsng.. pr.viously .pprov.d by Council;
.ugg..t.d .dv.rtising for bids on Jun. 30th snd July 7th .nd .w.rding
the bid July 25th, which would .n.bl. City to se.d by S.ptemb.r.
In r.vi.w of the gr.ding pl.n, Mill.r not.d th.t the tr.il 10.s
.a.t to the ba.. of the hill and .top.; .xpl.in.d th.t the County
i. curr.ntly workinl with DNl and RCWD r.garding the propo..d County
p.th .long the w..t .id. of L.xington; conn.ction of the p.th in
Cu..ings Park to the L.xington Av.nu. p.th d.p.nd. on the ..ount of
fill th.t will b. p.rmitt.d. Mill.r not.d th.t .It.rn.tiv.s would
be to .xt.nd the park p.th p.r.ll.l to the L.xington path to the
exi.ting gr.d., or to obt.in .n .gr....nt with CDC to construct.
portion of the p.th on CDC prop.rty to conn.ct with the L.xington
path. Hill.r not.d thst the gr.ding plan propo... to .top the p.th
.t the b... of the hill, p.nding r.solution of how to .xt.nd it to
the L.xington path.
Hill.r s.id the County f..l. that gr.ding the .lop. for the City tr.il
.xt.n.ion to the L.xington tr.il would not b. a probl..; not.d th.t,
a l.ss ..v.r. grade could.b. obtain.d' if path w.r. .xt.nded on CDC
prop.rty, but this rout. do.. not provide the d.sired direct .cc..s
to the p.rk from the K.rth Lak. ar...
In di.cussion, Buckl.y was a.k.d about the sCh.duling of b.llfi.ld.;
will so.. g...s b. tr.n.f.rr.d fro. P.rry Park to Cu.ming. P.rk, or
would more t.... b. .cco.mod.t.d? Buckl.y ..id th.r. will prob.bly
b. g.... .chedul.d two night./w..k .t Cu.ming. P.rk - two g..../night.
Mill.r e.ti..t.d the b.s. bid .t $29,200; .It.rn.t. ...ding .nd .ulch-
*g .n .ddition.l $5,200 (b...d on this .pring'. price. for ai.il.r
worlt) .
Hick. mOV.d, ..cond.d by Mulc.hy, th.t Council authoria. .dv.rtis...nt
for bid. for eompl.te rough .nd fin.l gr.ding with s..ding, f.rtilia-
ing .nd aulehing .. .n .It.rn.t.. Hotion e.rri.d un.ni.ou.ly. (5-0)
Minut.. of R.gular Council M..ting
June 27, 1983
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Park. Committ.. R.signation
Christian..n mov.d to acc~pt the r.aignation of Dr. Alan Kontgomery
from the Parks and Recreation Committ.e. Motion waa a.cond.d by
Kulcahy and carri.d unanimoualy. (5-0)
(C.rtificate of Appr.ciation to b. pr.par.d.)
Bid Award - 1983 S.alcoating Proj.ct
Council waa ref.rr.d to tabulation of four bida rec.ived, ranging
from $34,170.00 to $37,027.50, and to Engin.er's letter of 6/23/83
r.co.m.nding that the bid b. award.d to the low bidder.
Hicka mov.d, s.conded by McAllist.r, that Council award the bid to
Alli.d Blacktop, in the amount of $34,170.00. Motion carri.d unan-
imously. (5-0)
REPORT OF VILLAGE TREASURER DONALD LAMB
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Inv.st..nts
6-17-83 - $400,000.00 at First Fed.ral for 6 months @ 9.4%,
maturing 12/19/83.
Hicks moved to ratify the Treasurer'a
by McAlli.ter and carri.d unanimoualy.
r.port.
(5-0)
Motion waa a.cond.d
Planning Commission Appointm.nt.
Hicka reported the h. waa unable to contact some of the p.opl. r.com-
mended as potantial Planning Commiaaion melllb.rs; r.ported that
Scott Patara.n indicat.d h. would like to think about it (was r.com-
m.nd.d by formar Planning Commiaaion m..b.r, Gary Thorn, but had not
be.n contact.d).
In diacussion, it waa augg.st.d the Council liaisons talk to th.ir
Committ.e me.b.ra to ae. if any curr.nt committ.. memb.rs would b.
intar.stad in a Planning Commiasion appointmant, if ao, invit. th.m
to attend tha July 6th Planning Commiasion m..ting.
Appointments were def.rr.d to th. n.xt Council m..ting (July 11th).
(Ag.nda and Planlling Report to b. given to pot.nUal appoint....)
North Lak. Josephin. Improv.ment Association - Fir.work. P.rmit
McAlliat.r mov.d, s.conded by Hicks, that Council approve the
work. P.rmit for North Lak. Joa.phin. Improv.mant Association
July 4th at 1220 Ingerson Road. Motion carried unanimoualy.
Pi re-
on
(5-0)
OTHER BUSINESS
M.tropolitan Tranait Com.i.aion
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Inquiry from Matropolitan Transit Commission relative to the ne.da
of Arden Hills for circulatory transportation - Roseville, Shoreview.
N.w Brighton, Ard.n Hills.
In diacuaaion, some of tha conc.rn. expressed ware:
- who will pay for it?
- whst can Arden Hilla afford?
- what is n..d.d;
It was the g.n.ral conc.naua of Council that large organizations
(MSI, CDC, Delux. Check Print.rs, Land O'Lakea, Roa.dale, Her Mar,
.tc.) can conduct th.ir own surv.y of n..da within tbe organization;
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Minutas of Rasular Council Maatins
Juna 27. 1983
Pas. Thraa
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araa wida quastionnsiras sra not considarad too succassful bacausa
avaryona says "Yas. I'd like it". without knowins who will pay for
it. Concarn was axpressed that da.ands would ba surfscins from
residents. business placa~. ho.as for tha alderly. atc. for spacial
servic.s. McNiesh r.portad that. to dste. the Villas. office has
not rac.ivad raquests for additional public transportation.
Mulcahy's Ma.oto Council 6/27/83
Proposal to authoriza To. Mulcahy to investisate tha Dasirability
of Contractins for an Evaluativa Study of Ard.n Hills' Parks pro-
sra. and Manasam.nt.
Council discuasad Mulcahy'a proposal. aftar which Mulcahy waa
authorizad to inv.atigate~ at no cost to tha City. the poaaibility
of finding an exp.rt to conduct the propoaed evaluation and the
cost th.r.of.
I.O.O.F. Str..t Light
Council waa refarr.d to notification from I.O.O.F. that the lodga
no longar wanta to pay for the str..t light. Council authoriz.d
that tha atraat light be turnad off.
G.odaaic Ho.a (8:15 p...)
Stava Hagan. purchasar of lot in Chatha. davelop.ant. and Blair
WOlfra.. Top Do.e Ho.as. wara pres.nt. Hagan said ha proposa. to
closa on the purchasing of tha lot on July 1st. contingeD~ upon
obtainins a Building Per.it. HaSen aaid he w.nta to live in tha
north araa, and particularly likes this lot because ther. is no
develop.ent at tha rear of this lot. providins tha privacy ha
da.ires. Hagan said he wants to build a gaodesic do..; noted that
Ardan Hills has a "les. desirable" one; feels concluaion. ara baing
drawn. with this ona in .ind.
A plen book by'..OutdoClr People and a faw pictura. wara circulatad for
raviaw by tha audianca and Council. Hagan notad that tha do.a is
obvioualy not a squara or ractangular building. a. are other home.
in Arden Hill.; noted that Battar Homa. and Cardans has an articla
on do.a.; ..id wa will ..e .ora of th.. in tha futura a.id coloniala
and othar atyle. of architacture.
Hagan aaid do.a. are .tructurally .ora sound than other ho.a. in
Chatha.; dome home. coat $100.000+; Chatha. ho.e. co.t $70.000 -
$90.000 whan conatructed. Hagan .aid ha purchaaad tha City Zoning
Ordinanca and ha. a copy of tha Spacial U.a Per.it for tha Chatha.
davelop.ant; aftar raview of theaa docu.ant.. finda nothing .tatad
that dome. can't ba built; faal. tha SUP wa. siven to Ban Con ba-
cauae of the ..all.r lot .iza.. not the hou.a. proposad; .tatad
that tha home. in Chatha. will not ba devaluat.d bacauae of tha
do.e - doa.n't want his hou.. d.valuatad .ithar.
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Richard Aharn, 1671 Chatha. Avenua. said he faal. that pracisaly tha
thing. that Hagan has .aid about the do.. are tha r.a.on. wa oppo.a
it; it doas not fit the p.ttarn. Aharn .aid wa wara all a.surad.
whan wa bousht our ho.... that all ho.as in the davalop.ant would
be like the mod.l. or .i.ilar to it; a.k.d Hagan why ha wants put a
"do.." in an ar.. of traditional ho.... Ah.rn .aid h. finds nothing
wrons with the do.a. but f..l. it will low.r the valua of tha homaa
in Chatha. by $15.000-$20,000 according to information h. racaivad
fro. a raaltor. Aharn a.kad why Hagan want. hi. house to ".tick out
lika a aora thu.b".
Blair Wolfram aaid h. saw ranch .tyl.. colonial.. ona and two-a tory
ho.a. in Chatha.; did not aaa tha uniformity of which you apaak.
Wolfram .aid the Chatha. ho.a ownara do not hava aa good an invast-
.ant a. th.y .iSht. had thay cho.an a do.. ho.a.
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Jun. 27, 1983
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R.sid.nt (name not givan) said that the Chatham ho.es ar. tredition.l
vs. the experimental "dome".
Vern Masaey. 1675 Ch.th.m Avenue, s.id he agree. with Richard Ahern:
whether one hou.e i. more' .ound, or whatever, i. not the i..ue.
M....y .aid we'd like you a. a neighbor: a.ked why Hagen can't build
a hou.e th.t fit. the neighborhood?
Re.ident (name not g1ven)suggested that a dome would look b.tt.r on
a larger lot; noted that the lots in Chatha. are s.sll.
Hagen .aid this particulsr lot qas a closed in bsck yard: privacy .
is available and provides for south facing windows, which will give
lots of light, also we will not need drapes.
Resident said the circle does not fit wh.t is already there: we ar.
proud of our home. and our neighborhood: feel it is a community by
itself, end we want to keep it that w.y: feels this do.e will look
better in an open are..
Jeff Stewart. 1687 Chatha. Avenue, said he h.s some concerns:
- not sure if it will, but feels it will devaluate his hom..
- feels it does not fit in the Chatha. ar.a.
- noted th.t w. were told by Ban Con that one of the 8 or
so styles of homes would b. built on these lots in Chatham -
has been concerned that a hou.e would be b~ilt on the lot
next door to him that would not fit after Ban Con pulled
out.
Mr. (na.e inaudible) said we were given. number of house designs
to ehoo.e from: we were told .11 hous.. would be of these de.igns -
a controlled environment. I feel we are dec.iv.d by the dev.loper,
or .omebody, if something .lse is built.
Peter McC.ll, 1595 Ch.tham Avenus, s.id he feels this proposed
do.e is . whole n.ighborhood probl.m: house do.s not fit into a
traditional type n.1ghborhood like Chatha..
Woodburn ssid thes. design. (copies of which he h.ld in biB hsnd)
wer. part of intent of Council'. deliberatioa when con.id.ring the
Chath.. dev.lopment .s a Plann.d Unit Dev.lopment.
Hag.n s.id when B.n Con sold the lot., tbey gave up this right of
control of types of home. to be built: developer. h.ve control of
own lots.
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Hicks expl.ined that Chath.. is . Pl.nned Unit Developm.nt: lot.
are smaller: setb.cks .r. different from tho.. required by ordinance:
Ch.tham is controlled by a Sp.cial Us. Per.it: the f.ct th.t Ban Con
sold. few of the lots is irrelevant.
Hagen ref.rred to Section VIII G of the Arden Hills Zoning Ordinanc.,
Planned Unit Develop.ent Permits; noted that the purpo.. and intent
is to encourage the use of contemporary land planning principles, etc.~
Woodburn explained that this was part of the deliberation when the
City consid.red the PUD of Chath..: not.d that Council also int.r-
prets the ordinance and is e.power.d to int.rpret the intent of what
w.. approv.d. explained th.t the Special Use Permit goes with the
lsnd, not the d.veloper.
McAllister asked how the do.e would affect value. of the neighborhood.
Woodburn said th.re may b. a short ter. imm.diate i.pact, and possibly
rais.d .y.brows, but .aid h. has no facts as, to wh.ther it would
aff.ct ho.. valu.s.
Hicks moved, seconded by Woodburn. that Counci I deny the Bui Iding
Permit because the PUD implied legislative intent to follow the plans
presented at the Public Hearing.
The motion was ruled to be out of order.
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Minut.a of R.gular Council K..ting
Jun. 27, 1983
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Aft.r diacussion, Hicks mov.d, sacond.d by Woodburn, that Council
taka the po.ition that the g.od.aic ham. i. not appropriate in
Chatha..; that this ar.a i" a Plannad Unit Dav.lopunt vith an im-
pliad l.gislativa intant a. damonstratad by plana .ubmi.ttad to tha
Planning Com.i.aion and Council prior to granting the Pl.nnad Unit
D.v.lop...nt to B.n Con to d.v.lop the Chath.m ar.a.
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In furthar diacu.sion, it vas qu.ri.d whath.r othar ham.. have
actu.lly b.an built in the Chatha. d.v.lop...nt. Z.hm said sh. has
no knovl.dg. of issuanca of building parmits for ho..a oth.r than
tho.a propoa.d by B.n Con.
Th. h.ight of the g.od..ic ham. v.a ~u.riad; an.w.r vas 21'.
Chri.ti.n.an .aid h. va. not on tha Council at the ti.e Ch.th.m v..
d...lop.d; f.als preaant Council is "hanging it. h.t" on the int.nt
of Council .t that ti..; not.d thia conting.ncy i. not li.t.d in
the SUP.
Mulcahy ask.d to rule the ..otion out of ord.r; Council is asauming
wa have a Building Per.it applic.tion; f..ls Council should obtain
.n opinion fro. the City Attorn.y on CouDcil's authority to give .
Building P.r.it for tha ham. r.qu..t.d.
Blair .sk.d if the PUD dict.t.a the type of ham. or the ua. of the
l.nd? An.w.r v.a "both".
a..idant (n...a not giv.n) s.id only 4 or 5 atyl.s of ho.aa ara in
the .ntir. Ch.tha. .r.a; ham.. have int.rior ch.ng.. and .xt.rior
ch.ng.. vbicb.r. co.m.tic in n.tur..
McAllist.r said sh. raally like the do.. ho..; rac.ivad savaral
phon. calla today, so.. .aid thay would like a do.a in Ch.th.m.
McAlliat.r said sh.'d like . doma in har naighborbood, but the
paopla wbo bought in Chatham v.re led to baliav. only c.rtain
d.aign. vould ba built tbar.; cona.quantly, will vat. for the
motion.
Cbristiansen .aid ba is not cartain .11 tha ho.as in Chatha. .re
built to only tha de.ign~submitted by B.n Con.
Hicks. s.id h~ is not oppo.ad to geod.sic ho..ea; feals th.y ere
incon.istant witb the boas. in this PUD; only two lot. app.rently
r.m.in .. a p.rt of this plan; statad ha would'not h.v. approv.d
the mix of dvalling. to includa a do.a; f.al. it i. incon.ist.nt
with the intant of the SUP.
Mulcahy ..id h. is di..ppoint.d w. h.va a motion b.for. us; fora-
.... that Council is putting it.alf in . position of vh.th~r it is
pl....d or displeased with a dome ham., which i. a zoning admini-
str*tion d.cis10n;matt.r should th.n go to the Bo.rd of App.al.
for its r.com..ndation to Council. Mulc.hy said Council should
~ bav. a c.rtain plan, and. fir. i..ue on which to ..k. a d.ci.ion.
Hicks not.d tbat this motion do.s not prohibit the .pplicant fro.
.pplying for. Building P.rmit.
Aftar furtb.r discussion, the motion c.rri.d (Hicka, McAllist.r,
Woodburn voting in f.vor of the motion; Christians.n, Mulcahy
voting in opposition) (3-2)
REPORT OF VILLAGE,CL!RK ADMINISTRATOR CHARLOTTE McNIESB
P.yroll
Council..vas r.f.rr.d to the Payroll .nd .n .ddition.l ch.ck in the
amount of $88.68 for r.tty C.sh.
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Minutes of Regular Council Meeting
June 27. 1983
Page Six
The need for the Petty Cash fund waa queried. McNiesh explained
that it is in the amount of $275.00 and is used for small cash
purchases by the various'departments; noted that the summer parks
program requires payment of admissions for roller skating, tubin8.
baseball 8smes. etc. plus bus fares and supplies.
After discussion, it was moved by Christiansen that Council auth-
orize a separate Petty Cash Fund for the exclusive use of the
Parks and Recreation Department in the amount of $250.00; Director
of Parks and Recreation Dept. to be directly reaponsible for this .
Petty Cash Fund. which ia subject to review at the end of the year.
Motion waa seconded by Hieks, and carried unanimoualy (5-0).
Christiansen moved that Council approve the Payroll and the check
for Petty Cash. Motion was seconded by McAllister and cerried
unanimously. (5-0)
Adjournment
Hicks moved, seconded by McAllister, that the meeting adjourn at
10:46 p.m. Motion carried unanimously. (5-0)
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Charlotte McNiesh
Clerk Administrator
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Robert L. Woodburn
Msyor
Notice of Meeting
The next Regular Council Meeting will be on Monday, July 11th at
7:30 p.m. at the Village Hall.
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